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tl;dr: alternatively Technology and Science.
Would accomplish:
-establishing culture of higher quality discussion
-creating space for expression of serious and intelligent thought

Hello and thank you for taking your time,

it is my impression that GBAtemp is a community of high IQ people (on average), alot of them being quite crafty, when it comes to hardware as well as software. In alot of discussion I had I was asked to provide scientific studies or was confronted with such. There seems to be a curiosity for knowledge in amoung tempers, I would argue you don't see in alot of other communities.

Now, I understand that the politics section was made to contain certain types of discussions and keep the forum nice and tidy. From this perspective there is no need for a Science and History section. I do however feel, that having such a section does raise the quality of discourse all across the board, because it has the potential to cultivate a stronger sense of proper discourse amoung a subsection of the userbase, and that would wear off on other sections as well.

With so much curiosity and brainpower amoung tempers this seems to me like a suggestion that deserves consideration.

How do you feel about this?
 
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By the clear trend of downvoting this suggestion, I assume that there is no interest in discussion of science and history here. I would be curious to hear the positions of those who have downvoted, however.
 
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I would be curious to hear the positions of those who have downvoted, however.
Let me explain: their position is being out of position, that is, lack of position, more precisely, not taking a position, ultimately ............ idiocy! You demand too much from some users....

Edit: I realized that I was a little harsh, and that I used a term a little too .................. naaah, it's the right one!
 
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hose who have down
They may have done it because this is a network of video game enthusiasts?

I mean, do you see sewing patterns in car magazines or tips for makeup in Hustler?

To add to that, video games are a part of tech, which is encapsulated in science, which we talk of, already.
If we need history, we apply it to relevance, rather than becoming History/National Geographic. Most relevant history would have roots in politics.


So basically, do it?
Or post in the EoF.
 
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Let me explain: their position is being out of position, that is, lack of position, more precisely, not taking a position, ultimately ............ idiocy! You demand too much from some users....
I can see how some users are intimidated by the idea of moving the scientific and historic discussions that pop up to dedicated threads. From what I have seen some users writing and doing (like complex coding) it is clear to me, that a good chunk of the userbase has way above 120 IQ. If you only have 120 IQ encountering serious discourse can be a sobering experience.

Another thought I had is that some users may have downvoted because they were disappointed that I left out philosophy. If they don't make their position known I guess we will never know, but I think philosophy should be added as well.
Edit: I realized that I was a little harsh, and that I used a term a little too .................. naaah, it's the right one!
In a way you are right. I think the 120 IQ user base shouldn't keep the high end of GBAtemp down. Science isn't a democratic process anyway, so voting on such a question is kind of besides the point. Science is in essence apollonian while voting is more bacchial (god of democracy and chaos), so people that like the idea of voting, might not like the idea of science.
Many of them appear to struggle with the basic fundamentals of biology, chemistry, climatology, and criminology while continuously praising the virtues of The Science.
I think active scientific discourse could even that out a little bit. Alot of people have a conception of science that is not really adequate and that can lead to confusion.
Off-topic really already fills that need, especially since it's really not brought up that much, to begin with.
When I talk with other users it is brought up quite a bit.
They may have done it because this is a network of video game enthusiasts?
There is no contridiction, to the contrary actually.
I mean, do you see sewing patterns in car magazines or tips for makeup in Hustler?
We have people who code here and that is a kind of mindset that is compatible with science I would argue. Alot of subjects related to video games are in close relation to science. In addition this is more than just a video game forum, people here go much deeper into the technical aspect of hardware and software.
To add to that, video games are a part of tech, which is encapsulated in science, which we talk of, already.
Yes.
Most relevant history would have roots in politics.
I tend to disagree.
So basically, do it?
Yes.
Or post in the EoF.
Hahaha...
 
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Oh, you.
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ernieway--you don't get the joke.
I didn't get it as well to be honest. Be that as it may, starting a serious scientific, historic or philosophical discussion in EoF will devolve into @WiiMiiSwitch announcing that he will take over the site while he gets heckled by @Hayato213, @CoolMe amoung others. It couldn't be more of a clash.

Off-Topic would be more fitting, but I would be worried posting a serious high effort post on there it would end up being burried by threads that are just slightly above EoF-tier.
 
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Then do it.

Personally, I say no to both sections(Science+History).

Think about it like this:
All the people you named seemingly don't get a long.
Why would you want to draw more "people" to this site who would clash VS gel?

Opening a Crypto section was good; opening a Politics section was good; having a section for reviews, food, books/tv, are all good, but why would there be a need to add a "clothes/makeup" section?
Are you going to tell Vanity Fair make a video games and drugs section? Do you think they'll do it?



Literally, there are some things you let stay in their own lane because it just works better.




If you reeeeeeeaaallllyyyyyyy want to talk about these things, then do it, but dedicating whole sections would be pointless when you, who wishes to post about "History" on a network for video game enthusiasts , could post in Politics or off-topic already.

If you polish work on your wordcraft, you could post anywhere, about anything.
 

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Then do it.
Okay.
Personally, I say no to both sections(Science+History).
How about 'Technology and Science'. That might have been a better framing to get more support, but on the other hand I am doubtful that any suggestion for more expression isn't going to face serious opposition.

The antagonism the politics section faces is easily resolved by not going there, yet it repeatedly comes up, which raises the question if there is simply a dislike for spaces of serious expression. In general (outside of this community) I think the trend goes towards approval for free expression as long as its either unserious or unintelligent.
Think about it like this:
All the people you named seemingly don't get a long.
Why would you want to draw more "people" to this site who would clash VS gel?
Those people get along, they are just teasing eachother for fun. I don't think a science section would attract people of a chaotic nature. Not only do I think it would possibly attract orderly people, I also think it would create an atmosphere of orderly conduct that would impact other sections. It's kind of the reversal of the arguement for the politics section (containment of certain tendencies).
Opening a Crypto section was good;
That one is more of strech than for example Technology and Science.
but why would there be a need to add a "clothes/makeup" section?
I don't know. It is a puzzling suggestion to me.
Are you going to tell Vanity Fair make a video games and drugs section? Do you think they'll do it?
I can't follow your train of thought.
Literally, there are some things you let stay in their own lane because it just works better.
I see your point, but what is the argument?
If you reeeeeeeaaallllyyyyyyy want to talk about these things, then do it, but dedicating whole sections would be pointless when you, who wishes to post about "History" on a network for video game enthusiasts , could post in Politics or off-topic already.
You might be right and I am the only one interested talking about Science and History.
If you polish work on your wordcraft, you could post anywhere, about anything.
No, for discussion like this you need a proper enviroment. The idea of science discussions in EoF illustrates this quite clearly. If you post political content in EoF the thread will take a radically different direction than what it gets in the dedicated section.
 
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Why refer to users as high IQ, this makes no sense, why can't you just suggest it
That is a good question. The interest and capability to engage in complex discussion is corralated with high IQ. Therefore it is important to point out that GBAtemp is a community with well above average IQ, with a decent chunk of users being seriously intelligent, because that shows that there is potetnial for such a space of serious and intelligent discussion on this site.
 
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Why refer to users as high IQ, this makes no sense, why can't you just suggest it
This is actually an exaggeration. Until now, I have not yet been lucky enough to meet even one of them. 😋 Ultimately, he simply wanted to flatter you....😉
 
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That is a good question. The interest and capability to engage in complex discussion is corralated with high IQ. Therefore it is important to point out that GBAtemp is a community with well above average IQ, with a decent chunk of users being seriously intelligent, because that shows that there is potetnial for such a space of serious and intelligent discussion on this site.
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