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California Court SHUTS DOWN Transgender Pronoun Law

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@Seliph
Well this is a general statement regardless if you are transgender or not. Let's just say you are born and you have brothers and sisters. Remember you guys was born because your mom and dad had sex. Now if you nor your brother and sisters never have any children the family tree will end there will not be a future generation in your family tree.

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A good percentage comes from heterosexual homes which isn't the problem I'm just making a point.... At some point heterosexuality is a vital necessity. Nothing wrong with being trans and etc..etc... but more than likely your bloodline will end with you unless you change your mind and reproduce.
 

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At some point heterosexuality is a vital necessity.
Not really. Ever hear of a turkey baster baby and surrogate pregnancy? Reproduction with zero sex involved. Pretty common for couples that have problems having kids, especially gay (I'm using gay as a broad term since saying homosexual just sounds weird) couples. If all the straight people just died tomorrow we could have a world of gay people reproducing just fine. Also, trans gay people can sexually reproduce... so there's that too.
 
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He's just... so basic.

Smh I can tell you aren't gay cuz then you'd have better taste in men
Really? Maybe now he's gone almost entirely mainstream, but he did a ton of memorable indie films starting out. Obviously Keanu Reeves and Karl Urban are high up on my "gay pass" list too lol.
 
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Not really. Ever hear of a turkey baster baby and surrogate pregnancy? Reproduction with zero sex involved. Pretty common for couples that have problems having kids, especially gay couples. If all the straight people just died tomorrow we could have a world of gay people reproducing just fine.

Masturbation is not sex guys! Artificial sex is not real sex, either?

I can imagine that gay couples would have problems having kids.
 

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The fact that some people wear dresses and some don't as a social norm is arbitrary.

If you don't think certain people wearing dresses is detrimental to future generations, then I am unsure why you brought up concern for future generations as a consequence of certain people wearing dresses.

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What you call gender specific fashion varies depending on which society and which time period we are talking about. It's arbitrary, and there's nothing genetic about most of what we assign to genders.

Nothing arbitrary about biology or the fashion that evolved to suit that biology. Gendered behaviors evolved as they did due to practicality and necessity, sure a lot of it is trivial in a post technological society but these behaviors are ingrained in humans.

You don't have to go any further than the grocery store to see men and women still engaging in hunter/gathered activity, guys grabbing what they need and GTFO, women pushing around a empty basket blocking their gathering spot.

When I kick their basket out of the way it's common for me to return the dirty look with "move it berry picker, daddys hunting."
 
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Really? Maybe now he's gone almost entirely mainstream, but he did a ton of memorable indie films starting out. Obviously Keanu Reeves and Karl Urban are high up on my "gay pass" list too lol.
Hmmm... a bit better. I'll let it slide.
Masturbation is not sex guys! Artificial sex is not real sex, either?

I can imagine that gay couples would have problems having kids.
Buddy what are you talking about
 

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Pretty common for couples that have problems having kids, especially gay couples.

How am I suppose to read that other than gay couples having trouble having kids? Are they even trying?

Also, sexual reproduction is a must, over time, despite the method.
 

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Masturbation is not sex guys! Artificial sex is not real sex, either?

I can imagine that gay couples would have problems having kids.

If a woman found a glob of semen on the ground and rubbed that on her vagina, do you consider that sex? Like don't get me wrong, a deed has been done that feasibly could potentially result in a child, something that requires sperm and an egg, but in that scenario, this would indeed be sexual reproduction, but that wouldn't be what anyone would call sex at all. And I think that's the point they were making, yes a sperm and an egg are required for birth, they weren't denying that; but heterosexual sex as we know it? Not really.
 
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If a woman found a glob of semen on the ground and rubbed that on her vagina, do you consider that sex? Like don't get me wrong, a deed has been done that feasibly could potentially result in a child, something that requires sperm and an egg, but in that scenario, that wouldn't be what I'd call sex at all. And I think that's the point they were making, yes a sperm and an egg are required for birth, they weren't denying that; but heterosexual sex as we know it? Not really.

Sexual reproduction is sexual production. If you want to rely on late-stage capitalism to utilize science to create babies for you so you can be gay without worry, then you do you. AFAIK, the majority of the population aren't test-tube babies, so the idea that heterosexual relationships are sustaining the homosexual populations isn't "far out". Even if the dream does become the reality, and test tubes create everyone, it's still heterosexualism that is propagating your lifestyle.
 

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How am I suppose to read that other than gay couples having trouble having kids? Are they even trying?

Also, sexual reproduction is a must, over time, despite the method.
Gay couples generally cannot sexually reproduce...

There are non-sexual methods of reproduction. This is generally the way gay couples have kids. Like I said. These methods are well documented and easy to research.

I don't really wanna hear your opinions on sex, since that definitely doesn't seem to be your field of expertise.

the majority of the population aren't test-tube babies
Oh my god dude surrogate babies are not "test-tube babies" please stop talking about things you know nothing about. Straight people have been using surrogates as well for decades. It's awesome stuff.
 
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Sexual reproduction is sexual production. If you want to rely on late-stage capitalism to utilize science to create babies for you so you can be gay without worry, then you do you. AFAIK, the majority of the population aren't test-tube babies, so the idea that heterosexual relationships are sustaining the homosexual populations isn't "far out". Even if the dream does become the reality, and test tubes create everyone, it's still heterosexualism that is propagating your lifestyle.
I'm not gay, I'm just acknowledging that this idea that society needs heterosexuality to live on, really isn't true for an intelligent species such as ourselves at such a place in history. It will certainly continue to be true, but feasibly we could all be gay and still make more babies.
 
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That is 100% reliant on sexual reproduction.
I would like to point out that this tangent started when Goku1992A said, "At some point heterosexuality is a vital necessity." Which is when Seliph objected and said not really. Seliph is absolutely correct to say not really as, heterosexuality is defined as "The quality or characteristic of being sexually attracted solely to people of the opposite sex." Note how no part of the definition describes procreation. A sperm and an egg are needed for procreation, but no one has to be straight for that to happen.
 

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That is 100% reliant on sexual reproduction.
At that point does that matter? There is no actual intercourse going on.

The point is, if a gay person wants to have a child with their partner, they can use a surrogate, no sexual contact has to be made whatsoever.

Now in this case you can technically call it "sexual reproduction" but this is still a method for gay couples to have their own kids, rendering the original point that I was countering moot. Again, if all straight people died tomorrow, gay people could still reproduce perfectly fine, no straights necessary. That was my original argument and I realize you've gotten me a bit off track. Is it sexual? Sure, but only in the most clinical way.

Anyways, personally for me I rely on mitosis baybeeeee
 
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