[POLL] 2020 U.S. Presidential Election

[Lacius]

Neither is MAGA (which I oppose btw) white nationalism, but it doesn´t matter the media and certain people.

If MAGA people talked about "allies" and "justice for white people", I am sure you will be ready to call them white nationalists.

I never said MAGA was white nationalism. That being said, while not everyone who supports MAGA is a white nationalist, nearly all white nationalists support MAGA.

 

[omgcat]

i was told COVID would disappear by 11/3, why are we almost breaching 110k a day now?

 

[Big Man Tyrone2]

i was told COVID would disappear by 11/3, why are we almost breaching 110k a day now?

Because Trump was lying (or exaggerating the rate in which a vaccine would be out)

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Georgia could VERY well go to Biden. 18k votes remaining, mostly from Democrat districts.

 

[Lacius]

i was told COVID would disappear by 11/3, why are we almost breaching 110k a day now?

To be fair, Trump said it would disappear the day after election day, so 11/4. However, on 11/4, we had the following:

• 103,087 new cases
• 52,049 hospitalizations
• 1,116 deaths

So, no, it hasn't disappeared. It's not some plot against Trump to cause him to lose re-election. Perhaps though we will get a real federal response to COVID-19 after Biden is sworn in (assuming he wins). Unfortunately, we will probably have an additional 137,000 COVID-19 deaths between now and then, thanks in part to Trump's utter failings.

Because Trump was lying (or exaggerating the rate in which a vaccine would be out)

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Georgia could VERY well go to Biden. 18k votes remaining, mostly from Democrat districts.

If Biden gets 60% of those votes (he likely will), he will win Georgia.

 

[D34DL1N3R]

meh...

 

[Big Man Tyrone2]

If Biden gets 60% of those votes (he likely will), he will win Georgia.

He will most likely get 70+% of the vote. This election is over. He will win NV.

 

[D34DL1N3R]

He will most likely get 70+% of the vote. This election is over. He will win NV.

The only unfortunate part if Biden wins, is that the election will not be over. For some odd reason or another (sarcasm) I think the results are going to be tied up in the courts for a while. We all know Trump is going to do everything he can to try to overturn such a result and refuse to leave office until there's nothing left for him to try.

 

[Lacius]

He will most likely get 70+% of the vote. This election is over. He will win NV.

My subjective take:

• Nevada: Biden's got it
• Georgia: Looks really like Biden has it
• Pennsylvania: Probably Biden
• Arizona: Probably Biden
• North Carolina: Probably Trump, but the odds are about 50/50

Biden is probably going to win, but those could also be my famous last words.

The only unfortunate part if Biden wins, is that the election will not be over. For some odd reason or another (sarcasm) I think the results are going to be tied up in the courts for a while. We all know Trump is going to do everything he can to try to overturn such a result and refuse to leave office until there's nothing let for him to try.

I could be wrong, but Trump's only viable gambits were:

1. Stop vote-counting while he was ahead
2. Prevent recounts where he was ahead

Once the votes have been counted, I don't see much that can be done.

 

[Big Man Tyrone2]

The only unfortunate part if Biden wins, is that the election will not be over. For some odd reason or another (sarcasm) I think the results are going to be tied up in the courts for a while. We all know Trump is going to do everything he can to try to overturn such a result and refuse to leave office until there's nothing left for him to try.

And given the conservative majority in the SC, it is likely that Trump and Barrett, "worked out a deal" in order to guarantee that the SC will vote in a way that Trump wants (goes to show how confident the Trump administration actually was for this election). The positive about this is that this really only applies in Pennsylvania, a state that Biden does not have to win in order to be declared President-Elect.

Also, none of this would be an issue if Republicans in PA allowed the polls to open mail-in ballots before election day.

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I am curious what the GOP will do when Trump leaves office.

They cannot replace Trump - his energy is unparalleled, making anyone that the GOP tries to bring up look like dogshit to Republican voters. I imagine that R's will not win the Presidency for the next 12-16 years, and will probably lose the Senate eventually, as the gap between pro-Trump R's and anti-Trump R's will widen.

 

[Lacius]

And given the conservative majority in the SC, it is likely that Trump and Barrett, "worked out a deal" in order to guarantee that the SC will vote in a way that Trump wants (goes to show how confident the Trump administration actually was for this election). The positive about this is that this really only applies in Pennsylvania, a state that Biden does not have to win in order to be declared President-Elect.

Also, none of this would be an issue if Republicans in PA allowed the polls to open mail-in ballots before election day.

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I am curious what the GOP will do when Trump leaves office.

They cannot replace Trump - his energy is unparalleled, making anyone that the GOP tries to bring up look like dogshit to Republican voters. I imagine that R's will not win the Presidency for the next 12 years, and will probably lose the Senate eventually, as the gap between pro-Trump R's and anti-Trump R's will widen.

Arguably, the best-case scenario for the Republican Party was a narrow Trump loss while Republicans retain the Senate, which is likely what they're going to get. Trump is doing long term damage to the Republican Party (the extent of the damage is hard to measure), and now they can move past it as quickly as possible while retaining power where it's only second to the executive branch. That, and conservations have a solid majority on the Supreme Court.

Republicans also have inherent advantages with regard to all three branches of government (the House is gerrymandered to hell and will likely stay that way, the Senate is a nonrepresentative body giving power to rural and white Americans, the executive branch is burdened by the electoral college, and the supreme court has the same burdens as the Senate and executive branch). The Republicans will be fine, unfortunately.

 

[GhostLatte]

Remember how the Russians interfering in the 2016 election was a "hoax?" And now when they're losing, the election is a fraud.

 

[Big Man Tyrone2]

Arguably, the best-case scenario for the Republican Party was a narrow Trump loss while Republicans retain the Senate, which is likely what they're going to get. Trump is doing long term damage to the Republican Party (the extent of the damage is hard to measure), and now they can move past it as quickly as possible while retaining power where it's only second to the executive branch. That, and conservations have a solid majority on the Supreme Court.

Republicans also have inherent advantages with regard to all three branches of government (the House is gerrymandered to hell and will likely stay that way, the Senate is a nonrepresentative body giving power to rural and white Americans, the executive branch is burdened by the electoral college, and the supreme court has the same burdens as the Senate and executive branch). The Republicans will be fine, unfortunately.

Very true. I just wonder who will be the new face of the Republican party.

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Remember how the Russians interfering in the 2016 election was a "hoax?" And now when they're losing, the election is a fraud.

"It's only fraud when I'm losing!"

There's less evidence of election fraud this year compared to Russian interference in 2016. Trumpists are grasping at straws, and relying on fake news of all things to prove that the election is rigged.

 

[Lacius]

Very true. I just wonder who will be the new face of the Republican party.

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[KingVamp]

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He is basically already is. With all the blocking he is doing.

 

[Lacius]

He is basically already is. With all the blocking he is doing.

In fairness to Mitch, his hands are much uglier that a turtle's. That's my bad.

 

[Big Man Tyrone2]

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McConnell is a blight on my home state. Has not done anything for us for 40+ years. Explains why Kentucky is one of the dumbest states.
And Republicans like to complain about Biden for not doing anything while in office.

 

[KingVamp]

In fairness to Mitch, his hands are much uglier that a turtle's. That's my bad.

You mean in fairness to turtles?

Seriously tho, I hope one day that it will be straight up illegal to not even have a debate on bill.

 

[notimp]

Lets play a little devils advocate.

1. Media coverage was overwhealmingly _off_ when extrapolating the trends from earlier in the election night, to when mostly mail in ballots were left to count. They enforced the narrative that 'something might be wrong here' simply by reporting without any knowledge about statistical trends being able to reverse in the counting of the vote, or knowledge about a potential 'blue wave' in mail in ballots.

2. When researching on the possibility of a blue wave in mail in ballots, most of the articles at that point (one or two days before the election, when I posted the California institute of tech paper on it) out there where completely certain, that there would be no inherent bias for one party or the other in mail in votes. (Partly because no one expected, that the Trump campaign could mobilize that much latino and black votes as in person votes at that point?). This included many major news sources.

3. Polling was off as hell.

4. Trump is loosing by a far smaller margin than anyone expected beforehand.

5. If democrats mess up the senate race this time around, we really have to talk about campaign strategy, and the DNCs approach to creating a major common narrative.


That all said, suing four states, before the counting finished, because of reports you got because you incited that people should go out there an look for something fishy, is way out of line also. So is announcing yourself to be the winner while none of the major news networks has declared you as such. So is championing a 'stop the vote counting' message.

edit: Correction: Suing three states (to stop the vote count), and demanding a recount in the fourth.

 

[USUKDecks]

The only blindness here is coming from you as you've also been infected with TDS and drink what the Left is pouring.

Nah not the left... just facts. Nothing but facts. There's no kool-aid to drink (and that's sTILL much better than bleach!! )
Your nazi reich party has no facts or truths, trumpo is the biggest con in history, it has NOTHING to do with the left
and that's the trick he pulled off into making you think it does. But you keep worshiping that false god of yours,
the ONLY thing he's proven is that he's a draft dodging, non-business knowing, 6x bankrupt filing, hitler wanna-be
who has already crapped all over the constitution. But you're an idiot, if trump told you to bury your shit because
it'll sprout gold bars...you'd do it without question.

your sheep and nothing more than that.

 

[notimp]

Btw. the trend reversal in the democratic preelections (when Sanders got shafted by coordinated action) was still overwhelmingly unlikely - because that voting system depended on 'making trends open, and then influencing future vote by preannouncing past trends' (such a freaking racket).

There all it took was 'vote bundling' (three candidates stopping their race and advocating Biden coordinately) at the most inopportune time for Sanders.

This was rigged.

edit: Also Trump didnt expect for Murdoch to f*ck him:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-rage-Fox-News-outlet-call-Arizona-Biden.html

https://theweek.com/articles/948132/fox-news-brings-trump-knees

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