Hacking Emulation POPS on PSP/Vita - Config Research

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Yes, I noticed this difference that the vita does not have the config contained in the PSP.

Unfortunately, Worms Pinball, in addition to the boot correction by activating fast mode cmd, shows the same graphical error as the Pro games. Regarding TOCA 2, I couldn't get it to 100% so I took a break.
i do appreciated your time for the game sir... im kinda frustrated that one of the biggest issue of TOCA 2 is graphical in which we are having a hard time to figure it out...sigh
 
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is there something for Digimon world 3 then? I saw an eboot but somehow it won't transfer to my vita's SD card
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can something be done to Digimon world 3 then? I found an ebook of it but it won't transfer to my vita's SD card for some reason....
 

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@The_Ho could you try to get vib ribbon ntsc hack to work? the patch is at romhacking or pre patched at the usual place.
When i used pop-fe with a random NTSC ID the game will crash after the main menu.
 

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@The_Ho could you try to get vib ribbon ntsc hack to work? the patch is at romhacking or pre patched at the usual place.
When i used pop-fe with a random NTSC ID the game will crash after the main menu.
Have you tried the original PAL version yet? Does it work? This hack patch is for using the game on NTSC console; there is no need to use it on PSP. In any case, it is foolish to try random IDs. 🙄
 

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I was under the impression PAL PS1 games run at 50hz so about 16% slower than NTSC ones.
That being said it might not be necessary after all since the game came out officially as eboot on the US Store.
 
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I was under the impression PAL PS1 games run at 50hz so about 16% slower than NTSC ones.
That being said it might not be necessary after all since the game came out officially as eboot on the US Store.
What happens if you take the PAL version and tick the "Force NTSC" box during conversion?

Also, did the NTSC version come out on the store? If so it might have a config that sorts things out?
We have a config for Vib Ribbon for the PAL and NTSC-J versions but no config for NTSC-U
 

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What happens if you take the PAL version and tick the "Force NTSC" box during conversion?
I think that is the definitive solution, the_ho tested it worked better than the ntsc patch itself.
Also, did the NTSC version come out on the store? If so it might have a config that sorts things out?
We have a config for Vib Ribbon for the PAL and NTSC-J versions but no config for NTSC-U
I think the US PS store just sold the PAL version as is. It might have been a fake "US" release?
ID = NPUI-00571 but it's really just good 'ol PAL SCES-02873
https://renascene.com/ps1/info/926
 

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I think that is the definitive solution, the_ho tested it worked better than the ntsc patch itself.

I think the US PS store just sold the PAL version as is. It might have been a fake "US" release?
ID = NPUI-00571 but it's really just good 'ol PAL SCES-02873
https://renascene.com/ps1/info/926
Vib Ribbon has a config already that converts it to NTSC. It's in the original POPS config table, so no tinkering needed with extra settings is needed. Any eboot of the PAL version should have the config enabled just by being on the latest firmware with a POPS update.
 

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I've been experiencing problems with FIFA 98 in its PAL Spain version. The game requires the disc loading speed to be set to Fast to function; otherwise, it fails to load anything after the EA Sports video. Additionally, the music and commentator audio cut off shortly after starting, leaving only menu and match sound effects. I'm unsure if this issue occurs in other PAL versions because I haven't tested them. PAL versions feature different commentators according to the country, with separate commentators for Spain, Italy, Germany, and France in their respective languages, in addition to English present in the PAL UK and NTSC USA versions
 
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I've been experiencing problems with FIFA 98 in its PAL Spain version. The game requires the disc loading speed to be set to Fast to function; otherwise, it fails to load anything after the EA Sports video. Additionally, the music and commentator audio cut off shortly after starting, leaving only menu and match sound effects. I'm unsure if this issue occurs in other PAL versions because I haven't tested them. PAL versions feature different commentators according to the country, with separate commentators for Spain, Italy, Germany, and France in their respective languages, in addition to English present in the PAL UK and NTSC USA versions
We don;t have a config for FIFA '98 yet. Maybe a config can fix this issue.
Lets see if one of the config guys has time to have a look.
 

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Hi all, some updates

1. @The_Ho I checked out that NASCAR 2000 config you created, works great, thanks!

2. @ronniesahlberg I've been using pop-fe over the past few days and came across a few bugs. I've commited fixes for them and created a pull request in your repo, when you have the time do take a look

3. @The_Ho @OPPAI_DAISUKI and anyone else involved in creating configs:

I've tried out the following games and they don't work at all (details are already listed in the PSX2PSP compatibility spreadsheet):
MTV Sports: Snowboarding
MTV Sports: Pure Ride
Fox Sports NHL Championship 2000


All 3 games are made by Radical Entertainment, the creators of Jackie Chan Stuntmaster which was a problematic title too, so maybe the config/fixes for that game might help? They were all released around the same time frame so it's an easy proposition that some of their code for example the FMV playback, or maybe their entire engines - are common to all of them.

Additionally, I've also tried playing these games on the PSP:
Moto Racer 2
Need for Speed: High Stakes


And they do work, but their framerates are pretty choppy. And I'm not that sensitive to low framerates ordinarily, but these are high-speed racing games and it makes them hard to play.
Now I dunno, maybe that's how they were back in the day, and the CRT TVs just smudged over this issue.
Or, maybe it's something to do with the PSP POPS emulation of these titles and a fix is possible, **wink** **wink**

All 5 of these games are among the best in their respective genres on the PS1, so it would be great if they could be running with no issues on the PSP & Vita.
 
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3. @The_Ho @OPPAI_DAISUKI and anyone else involved in creating configs:

I've tried out the following games and they don't work at all (details are already listed in the PSX2PSP compatibility spreadsheet):
MTV Sports: Snowboarding
MTV Sports: Pure Ride
Fox Sports NHL Championship 2000


All 3 games are made by Radical Entertainment, the creators of Jackie Chan Stuntmaster which was a problematic title too, so maybe the config/fixes for that game might help? They were all released around the same time frame so it's an easy proposition that some of their code for example the FMV playback, or maybe their entire engines - are common to all of them.

Since they are all from the same company the issues might be from a common support library/framework that they use in all their games.

You can easily test if the JCS config works for these games.
Just copy the config for JCS and put it in the same directory as the other games and name it the same as the CUE file but with the extension '.pspconfig' and pop-fe should automatically inject it when you create the eboot.

EDIT: the JCS config does not fix the "hangs at black screen during start" for the Snowboarding game. :-(
 
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Wasn't the problem with Jackie Chan the FMV cutscenes or something? I think it was fixed by them being ripped although might be wrong.
This is why we need one of our config experts on the case
 

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