California Court SHUTS DOWN Transgender Pronoun Law

[Valwinz]

https://www.theblaze.com/news/california-trans-pronouns-free-speech

A California Appeals court just shut down a law criminalizing misgendering in nursing homes. The court suggests that the first amendment still applies and the law requiring nursing home workers to use preferred pronouns was too restrictive on their right to speak. -

I guess California is not a lost cause

 

[jimbo13]

Not only will I call Caetlyn Jenner "her" I will call her Governor (Yes I stole that joke).

I am going to say what is apparent to me, I am not adding nonsense words to my lexicon. Humans are a dimorphic species and feelings and perceptions are not going to be policed by the state.

If you want to be called "her" and someone calls you "him" it's not their fault your failing at being trans.

 

[JuanMena]

Not only will I call Caetlyn Jenner "her" I will call her Governor (Yes I stole that joke).

I am going to say what is apparent to me, I am not adding nonsense words to my lexicon. Humans are a dimorphic species and feelings and perceptions are not going to be policed by the state.

If you want to be called "her" and someone calls you "him" it's not their fault your failing at being trans.

I like this, but at the same time not.

Like, don't care if people is whatever, just dont make me refer to you by a specific noun... it's enough trouble for me to type in another language... most of the times I'll forget it.

 

[Deleted member 559230]

Good. Feeding into peoples delusional state of mind isn't going to help them in the long run.

 

[Lacius]

Humans are a dimorphic species

1. With regard to sex, a majority of humans can be classified as biologically male or biologically female, but many humans are intersex.
2. Gender and sex are two different things.

Good. Feeding into peoples delusional state of mind isn't going to help them in the long run.

Being transgender isn't "a delusional state of mind." People who are transgender perfectly acknowledge that their gender identity doesn't comport with their biological sex.

 

[The Catboy]

Good. Feeding into peoples delusional state of mind isn't going to help them in the long run.

Outside of the fact that actual research has shown that respecting trans people drastically reduces mental stress on them. So the only real delusional state is those who think being transphobic is somehow accomplishing anything.
https://news.utexas.edu/2018/03/30/name-use-matters-for-transgender-youths-mental-health/
https://www.mentalhealthcommission.ca/sites/default/files/2019-05/Transgender people and suicide fact sheet.pdf
https://www.childtrends.org/blog/research-shows-the-risk-of-misgendering-transgender-youth
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...en-names-may-lower-suicide-risk-idUSKBN1HH2WH
Trans people shouldn't be disrespected, especially when they are at their most vulnerable. It's disturbing that people would deliberately disrespect anyone, especially the people they are supposed to be taking care of. It is malpractice to deliberately mistreat people in nursing homes and the elderly should be taken care of.

1. With regard to sex, a majority of humans can be classified as biologically male or biologically female, but many humans are intersex.
2. Gender and sex are two different things.

Being transgender isn't "a delusional state of mind." People who are transgender perfectly acknowledge that their gender identity doesn't comport with their biological sex.

On an interesting note, I am actually intersex. That was something I found out rather recently but had suspected for many years based on some personal details.

 

[jimbo13]

1. With regard to sex, a majority of humans can be classified as biologically male or biologically female, but many humans are intersex.
2. Gender and sex are two different things.

Being transgender isn't "a delusional state of mind." People who are transgender perfectly acknowledge that their gender identity doesn't comport with their biological sex.

It's not any different than any other psychiatric dysphoria, and I reject politicized redefinition of words like gender.

If an adult who think's he is a parrot wants to cut his ears off or someone wants to remove their genitals whatever makes them happy but I draw the line at being compelled legally/civilly to acknowledge someone is a biological parrot.

 

[Viri]

*calls everyone in this thread by the incorrect pronoun*

 

[Seliph]

This thread is dumb, don't even know why this is newsworthy.

 

[Goku1992A]

I may get spit on lol but I'm still standing firm there is only a male and female.

Now if that man/woman wants to sleep with the same sex that's their choice. If they want to change their "identity" once again their choice. I'm not homophobic or transphobic all I'm saying is just give the LGBT community their own section. Give them their own sports, TV Shows, bathroom and etc..etc..

Now when you are mixing Transgender with the opposite sex bathrooms and having them play on the opposite sports THEN it creates a problem. You can't have a biological male who is transgender playing on the girls sports team because that's not fair to the biological girls and the same thing applies to the bathrooms because it creates discomfort.

Nothing wrong with being on TV shows with other heterosexuals' and etc..etc.. but you have to put limits on everything.

That's why the age of consent was created. Just google predator poachers and you will see what I mean

 

[KingVamp]

Not sure what people are going to do, when body modification become even more advance.

 

[ChronoTrig]

They need the like button to have an emoticon (thumbs up or laugh associated with) cause a lot of people just make me laugh even if I agree/disagree/don't care with their comment.

 

[orangy57]

I call people by their preferred pronouns whenever they ask, but expecting and legally requiring everyone to do so, especially old people in nursing homes is ridiculous.

I reeeeally feel like this law was just proposed as bait to make the whole cause look bad and authoritarian. There is no better way to make your opposition angry than to try to take away their right to be angry.

 

[RocaBOT]

Oh good, a thread to assemble all the transphobic peeps of this place in one spot so I can ignore them all at the same time, so sweet

 

[The Catboy]

It's not any different than any other psychiatric dysphoria, and I reject politicized redefinition of words like gender.

If an adult who think's he is a parrot wants to cut his ears off or someone wants to remove their genitals whatever makes them happy but I draw the line at being compelled legally/civilly to acknowledge someone is a biological parrot.

Of course you are still using otherkins, lol. You are so pathetic and predictable. Otherkins don’t disprove trans people, period

 

[Lacius]

It's not any different than any other psychiatric dysphoria, and I reject politicized redefinition of words like gender.

If an adult who think's he is a parrot wants to cut his ears off or someone wants to remove their genitals whatever makes them happy but I draw the line at being compelled legally/civilly to acknowledge someone is a biological parrot.\

Are you arguing that things like hairstyle, clothes, etc. are biologically innate? How progressive of you, Jimbo.

 

[jimbo13]

Of course you are still using otherkins, lol. You are so pathetic and predictable. Otherkins don’t disprove trans people, period

Trans species & racial is entirely as valid as gender. Like I said it's all just different symptomatic expressions of dysphoria.

Are you arguing that things like hairstyle, clothes, etc. are biologically innate? How progressive of you, Jimbo.

Said nothing of the sort.

 

[Lacius]

Said nothing of the sort.

You seemed to imply there's no difference between biological sex and gender. Do you acknowledge there is, in fact, a difference? Either way, how progressive of you, Jimbo.

 

[jimbo13]

You seemed to imply there's no difference between biological sex and gender. Do you acknowledge there is, in fact, a difference? Either way, how progressive of you, Jimbo.

You seem to not understand when I clearly stated I am not adopting the Newspeak definition of gender.

A synonym is a word, morpheme, or phrase that means exactly or nearly the same as another word, morpheme, or phrase in the same language. For example, the words begin, start, commence, and initiate are all synonyms of one another; they are synonymous

 

[Lacius]

You seem to not understand when I clearly stated I am not adopting the Newspeak definition of gender.

A synonym is a word, morpheme, or phrase that means exactly or nearly the same as another word, morpheme, or phrase in the same language. For example, the words begin, start, commence, and initiate are all synonyms of one another; they are synonymous

Are you saying gender and sex are synonymous? If so, then my previous post commending you for your progressive stance of saying things like hairstyle, clothes, etc. are biologically innate stands.