Sony now claim they legitimised gaming!!

[Infinite Zero]

their waiting for the 3ds to be released so they can copy it into it

Of course. That's their strategy

 

[Blaze163]

'it wasn’t until PSone came along that gaming as an artform started spreading its wings into the mainstream.'


Do the words Pacman Fever mean anything to you, Sony?

 

[emigre]

I love the PSone. Fantastic console.

I do think its fair to say Sony did help make the gaming industry bigger.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Back in the day, N64 was the bomb. PS1 followed closely behind it. I think Sony finally realises they can't compete with current consoles. They released PS3 too early and the PSP isn't really getting much new stuff. Sony, you definately need to bring out the PSP2 soon.

lolwut. The PS1 utterly crushed the N64 in sales. 102 million to 33 million. The only consoles that beat it in sales are its successor, the PS2, the Gameboy (this is both standard and Color versions), and the DS.

And Sony actually recently realized they could actually start winning in this market. The PS3 has done a lot better with everything Sony has done recently. Why do you think it's such a pissing contest between Sony and Nintendo? I doubt the PS3 will actually match the Wii in terms of sales, but when another gen comes around the corner, Sony's gonna be hitting hard.

 

[fgghjjkll]

Back in the day, N64 was the bomb. PS1 followed closely behind it. I think Sony finally realises they can't compete with current consoles. They released PS3 too early and the PSP isn't really getting much new stuff. Sony, you definately need to bring out the PSP2 soon.

lolwut. The PS1 utterly crushed the N64 in sales. 102 million to 33 million. The only consoles that beat it in sales are its successor, the PS2, the Gameboy (this is both standard and Color versions), and the DS.

And Sony actually recently realized they could actually start winning in this market. The PS3 has done a lot better with everything Sony has done recently. Why do you think it's such a pissing contest between Sony and Nintendo? I doubt the PS3 will actually match the Wii in terms of sales, but when another gen comes around the corner, Sony's gonna be hitting hard.

Probably in sales, but ps1 was more a "mature" console. the n64 wa incredibly popular with high schoolers back in the day with hit titles such has 007 Goldeneye, Super Mario 64 and Super Smash Brothers.

 

[Cermage]

I think the SNES Legitimised gaming, since I know more people with a SNES then a PSX...

I think the NES did, with Super Mario Bros, because of its huge sales and because it got the gaming economy back up again.

But then again, PS1 also had a major role in legitimising, but not even close to the biggest.

you be cracking, ps1 and ps2 aren't the biggest selling consoles or anything. the numbers do enough to prove sony had a huge if not biggest contribution to gaming going mainstream.

 

[Overlord Nadrian]

Sony's gonna be hitting hard.

Most likely not. That is, if they keep up the strategy they are using now (bashing other companies to make themselves look better, while they are in fact on par at most). If Sony start to realise that bashing isn't the way to go and that a good bit of advertising and - most of all - hyping their products makes them look good, they will get better sales. The sales they get now are from the hardcore Sony fanbase, whereas Nintendo get sales from everyone.

Bottom line: be gentle and polite, and all should turn out well.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Sony's gonna be hitting hard.
Most likely not. That is, if they keep up the strategy they are using now (bashing other companies to make themselves look better, while they are in fact on par at most). If Sony start to realise that bashing isn't the way to go and that a good bit of advertising and - most of all - hyping their products makes them look good, they will get better sales. The sales they get now are from the hardcore Sony fanbase, whereas Nintendo get sales from everyone.

Bottom line: be gentle and polite, and all should turn out well.


Most consumers in the audience they're looking at don't following the scene like gamers do. And in the end, true gamers shouldn't care about how much shit Sony talks, if they make a good console, they make a good console.

QUOTE(fgghjjkll @ Jul 3 2010, 12:28 PM)

Back in the day, N64 was the bomb. PS1 followed closely behind it. I think Sony finally realises they can't compete with current consoles. They released PS3 too early and the PSP isn't really getting much new stuff. Sony, you definately need to bring out the PSP2 soon.

lolwut. The PS1 utterly crushed the N64 in sales. 102 million to 33 million. The only consoles that beat it in sales are its successor, the PS2, the Gameboy (this is both standard and Color versions), and the DS.

And Sony actually recently realized they could actually start winning in this market. The PS3 has done a lot better with everything Sony has done recently. Why do you think it's such a pissing contest between Sony and Nintendo? I doubt the PS3 will actually match the Wii in terms of sales, but when another gen comes around the corner, Sony's gonna be hitting hard.

Probably in sales, but ps1 was more a "mature" console. the n64 wa incredibly popular with high schoolers back in the day with hit titles such has 007 Goldeneye, Super Mario 64 and Super Smash Brothers.

Outside of maybe Goldeneye, those don't seem to be "highschooler" games for the time. Highschoolers are mature though, they love the violence. And when look at the PSX, the PSX had Gran Turismo, Metal Gear Solid, Twisted Metal, Tekken, the list goes on. Those seem like the games a highschooler would play at the time.

 

[Bladexdsl]

but when another gen comes around the corner, Sony's gonna be hitting hard.

nintendo is gonna be hitting back harder they've already (almost) confirmed their gonna be going HD and with their skills and creativity who knows what the hell their gonna come up with next. maybe use your mind to play the damn games

 

[Guild McCommunist]

but when another gen comes around the corner, Sony's gonna be hitting hard.

nintendo is gonna be hitting back harder they've already (almost) confirmed their gonna be going HD and with their skills and creativity who knows what the hell their gonna come up with next. maybe use your mind to play the damn games

Quite to the contrary. Nintendo top dogs have constantly been saying "HD isn't important to us" and that they're not aiming for their next console to be HD. Even if HD is done next gen, it'd be on levels of the PS3/Xbox this gen. That won't be the case for the other companies. The reason Nintendo did so well this gen was because they were tapping a userbase that Sony and Microsoft couldn't, at least not until now. Next gen every console will be playing on the same field, and odds are Nintendo is gonna be outdone by tech again, like this generation. And Nintendo can't rely on their current userbase for winning next gen, especially with Sony in particular revving up their engines to win next gen.

 

[The Catboy]

Wow Sony, since when were you guys total morons?

 

[Bladexdsl]

Even if HD is done next gen, it'd be on levels of the PS3/Xbox this gen.

nintendo were 1st to make a 64bit console when sony was still stuck on 32bit don't think they don't know how to push the graphics and hardware they do and just cos they havn't done it lately doesn't mean they won't do it next gen.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Even if HD is done next gen, it'd be on levels of the PS3/Xbox this gen.

nintendo were 1st to make a 64bit console when sony was still stuck on 32bit don't think they don't know how to push the graphics and hardware they do and just cos they havn't done it lately doesn't mean they won't do it next gen.

...What? The PS2 was first released March 4th, 2000 in Japan. It launched in US and EU later that year. The Gamecube first launched September 14th, 2001 in Japan. That's a year and a half after the PS2 launch. And all those were beaten by the Dreamcast, which was launched in 1998. And if my facts are wrong, it doesn't matter. The PS2 went on to be the highest selling console of all time (it still is, until the DS beats it). The Gamecube (after the Dreamcast) was dead last that gen.

And if that wasn't enough, everybody else beat them to HD.

 

[Bladexdsl]

that's the ps2 gen not ps1!
ps1 = 32bit
n64 = 64bit
the only reason the n64 was beaten by ps1 cos it had the casual market cornered. which nintendo now have a hold of and that's the key.

 

[Samurai Goomba]

The PS2 was first released March 4th, 2000 in Japan. It launched in US and EU later that year. The Gamecube first launched September 14th, 2001 in Japan. That's a year and a half after the PS2 launch. And all those were beaten by the Dreamcast, which was launched in 1998. And if my facts are wrong, it doesn't matter. The PS2 went on to be the highest selling console of all time (it still is, until the DS beats it). The Gamecube (after the Dreamcast) was dead last that gen.

And if that wasn't enough, everybody else beat them to HD.

The reason the Wii wasn't a big leap in graphical performance was because the Cube sold so poorly. Unlike Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft don't rely on this industry alone for revenue. Even with poor sales in this sector, they still have their cameras/computers/televisions/etc to keep them afloat. Sony and MS have the cash to be reckless. Nintendo doesn't have this luxury.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

The reason the Wii wasn't a big leap in graphical performance was because the Cube sold so poorly. Unlike Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft don't rely on this industry alone for revenue. Even with poor sales in this sector, they still have their cameras/computers/televisions/etc to keep them afloat. Sony and MS have the cash to be reckless. Nintendo doesn't have this luxury.

Well, they still make significant profit from this sector, and you need to be reckless to win. The Wii itself was a huge gamble. Same with the DS. No one knew if the casual crowd would go for it. If in an alternate reality they didn't, Nintendo as a company would be in the darkest of times right now.

QUOTE(Bladexdsl @ Jul 3 2010, 03:24 PM) that's the ps2 gen not ps1!
ps1 = 32bit
n64 = 64bit
the only reason the n64 was beaten by ps1 cos it had the casual market cornered. which nintendo now have a hold of and that's the key.

My bad. Although the PS1 didn't "corner" the casual crowd, it just brought in more gamers. Nowadays those kids who bought and played a PS1 are gamers today. I doubt the casual market Nintendo has will evolve to be gamers in the future.

 

[Cermage]

that's the ps2 gen not ps1!
ps1 = 32bit
n64 = 64bit
the only reason the n64 was beaten by ps1 cos it had the casual market cornered. which nintendo now have a hold of and that's the key.

casual market at the time was still being introduced, there definitely wasn't enough of a difference in "casual and Hardcore" to warrant nearly 70k sales at the time. the main reason sony did well was just the sheer difference in size of its gaming library. and it definitely shows through, on Metacritic the ps1 had 86 games that scored above 80, n64 only 44. Overall ps1 had a bit over 2400 games, conpared to n64's around 400.

 

[Langin]

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on topic: HAHAHHAHAHHAHA to sony what are they thinking?! EVEN I KNOW THAT SONY WAS NOT THE FIRST!(even I Goddamn!)

 

[FireGrey]

Well Nintendo still rules with consoles from a while back.
Like the 64 is really fun still today but when you get out a PS1...
And the thing that makes Nintendo best is They have a Soul!
Something that Sony is lacking...
And the Playstation 1 2 and 3 are basically the same, just upgraded...
Playstation 1: CD, Playstation 2: DVD and Playstation 3: Blu-Ray.
But Nintendo like to do stuff different so we love 'em for that.
Like a Touch Screen Handheld!A console where the controller is a remote that you can use as a tennis racket!or even a 3D handheld and even one thay lets you appear on screen in the games!
And sony...[Sarcasm]Oh yeah a HD console with hardcore games which is exactly the same as the PS2 just with alot of upgrades, oh yeah![/Sarcasm]

 

[Panzer Tacticer]

Legitimized gaming? What are they smoking?

Gary Gygax did more for gaming than Sony ever did. Gaming was big in the 70s long before the word console even mattered in gaming.

In fact when I started gaming, the word console indicated a part of a car.

I also recall the NES was big long before Sony meant anything at all to gaming.