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People have an observable and reproducible effect on each other, their environment, and other living beings. There's inherent meaning to be found in that without the need to bring faith or deeper philosophy into the mix.


Yeah, Republicans will never even entertain the idea of abolishing the electoral college or enacting ranked choice voting. Roe v Wade would not have been overturned if Hillary Clinton had been elected and appointed three SCOTUS justices, either. Two, possibly three conservative justices are set to die or retire during the next presidential term. I don't believe the US or even the species as a whole can survive another fifty years of blatant corruption on the level we're seeing from them currently.
People affect each other, yes of course

That doesn't necessarily create meaning

Of course you can take a Sartre like view and say we create our own meaning, which is definitely true - but you can also accept the inherent lack of meaning and accept that you don't value any meaning you place on things

In 100 years I might be remembered in a picture book, in 200 not at all. And eventually all humans will die out and even my species will not be remembered. Heat death ensues and not even a proton will exist any more - to accept these eventualities and the scope of the universe puts our existence into greater focus

There is nothing inconsistent with nihilism - of course it's not conducive to government or properly functioning society, but being a nihilist is also accepting from our point of view that too is meaningless
 

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In 100 years I might be remembered in a picture book, in 200 not at all. And eventually all humans will die out and even my species will not be remembered. Heat death ensues and not even a proton will exist any more - to accept these eventualities and the scope of the universe puts our existence into greater focus
We aren't stars or planets though, to try to separate yourself from your humanity is simply a roundabout way of lying to yourself. The difference a hundred years makes can be everything, people living in 2024 cannot truly fathom what it was like living in 1924, and vice-versa.

There is nothing inconsistent with nihilism - of course it's not conducive to government or properly functioning society, but being a nihilist is also accepting from our point of view that too is meaningless
Lived experience is inconsistent with nihilism. It's not conducive to a healthy lifestyle to ignore the meaning in everyone and everything around you, and you do have to actively ignore the meaning in it all. Otherwise, through passive observance alone, a piece of art, your romantic partner, or even just a single moment staring out over a natural vista can change the entire trajectory of your life. It's all meaningful in the here and now, and the here and now is meaningful because everything after death is unknowable. Nihilism is a luxury of wasted time best left to immortals.
 
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There is nothing inconsistent with nihilism - of course it's not conducive to government or properly functioning society, but being a nihilist is also accepting from our point of view that too is meaningless
I see this and raise: this is BS because our overall lack of meaning in the universe means that the meaning we give ourselves, to ourselves even, make all the difference.
 

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That's up to his handlers, given that he has pretty advanced dementia. Not that he would if he was lucid - he was always crooked and noncey.
 

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I see this and raise: this is BS because our overall lack of meaning in the universe means that the meaning we give ourselves, to ourselves even, make all the difference.
This is the difference between Nihilism and Existentialism. The Existentialist position makes sense in a Godless world, but increasingly I've come to know we don't live in one of those. Atheism as a state religion (and yes I am well aware that a fundamental tenet of the Atheist faith is to deny that it even is a faith) is even deadlier than Islam, and that's bloody saying something. The God-shaped hole in one's heart can be filled by Jesus or any number of increasingly inferior knockoffs, the worst of which is Der Fuhrer or whichever other socialist. It wasn't the Buddhists who stood up to the Gulag Archipelago, it was the Christians.
well yeah, caring about the well being of strangers is weird to them, not to me and my family.
The Anglo-European lands should first demand that strangers care about our well-being. We tried to help them before, and they called it "colonialism", threw it in our faces, and went to war with us for freeing their slaves.
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This is Trump tho.
"Accuse your opponent of that which you yourself are guilty" - Alinsky's Rules for Radicals
 
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I see this and raise: this is BS because our overall lack of meaning in the universe means that the meaning we give ourselves, to ourselves even, make all the difference.
Of course you can make that assessment

Everyone can make their own assessment
 

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A good look at the profile picture and signature he chooses to use tell me everything I need to know about this guy and that a discussion will be a waste of time.
agree, just felt the need to dot the is
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The Anglo-European lands should first demand that strangers care about our well-being. We tried to help them before, and they called it "colonialism", threw it in our faces, and went to war with us for freeing their slaves.
wow you can't seriously believe your own nonsense like that
"Accuse your opponent of that which you yourself are guilty" - Alinsky's Rules for Radicals
that's what you republiKKKans do with child abuse, worry less about drag shows and more about the pedos in your ranks
 

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