Hacking Why you deserve a 5.5 kernel exploit, but also why you can't have one

[jimmyleen]

aaaand... would you kindly show us where or how?

I get the filling he is just being a troll.

 

[MAXLEMPIRA]

I get the filling he is just being a troll.

hmmn... she has some knowledge on these kind of themes... so, I hope so (She's a girl, right? D

 

[NWPlayer123]

I get the feeling he is just being a troll.

lmao Wulfy more than knows what she's talking about, not sure if anything leaked but she'd know better than I would

 

[MAXLEMPIRA]

sorry... that's not what I want to show... let me find the correct one

 

[MrDanny]

i mean it kinda did 2 or so weeks ago but y'all don't really pay attention

Obviously nothing leaked if it's unable to be found. Why are your posts always so passive aggressive? What do you have against non-developers?

 

[Selver]

Thanks. The first time I booted up the Gateway launcher, I backed up my virgin 9.2U sysnand. Rxmode and emunand won't work for me, the 2DS just hangs. But I can reboot into pasta patch mode and stuff works. Just wish I could cold boot it into that mode.

Oddly, 9.2 isn't as stable for downgrading to 2.1 as 10.3 appeared to be (on a small N3DS sample). This pain in getting homebrew loaded with pre-A9LH hax (such as CN, OoT, etc.) are why A9LH is a major reason that those who love homebrew seem to also love A9LH.

 

[Jow Banks]

i mean it kinda did 2 or so weeks ago but y'all don't really pay attention

Anything to do with this?
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[hobbledehoy899]

By the way, is 9.2U really still the firmware to be on, since I have OoTHax now and my BrowserHax still works on my 9.2U 2DS?

Get ARM9loaderhax/proper CFW coldboot, you won't regret it.

 

[Jayro]

Get ARM9loaderhax/proper CFW coldboot, you won't regret it.

So AuReiNand seems to be the popular one, right? This stuff moves fast, and I just want to install .CIAs and play them from coldboot. I'll see if I can install A9LH in the coming week.

 

[hobbledehoy899]

So AuReiNand seems to be the popular one, right? This stuff moves fast, and I just want to install .CIAs and play them from coldboot. I'll see if I can install A9LH in the coming week.

ARN is now known as Luna3DS.

 

[Kafluke]

ARN is now known as Luna3DS.

Wow, this turned into 3ds thread

 

[NWPlayer123]

Wow, this turned into 3ds thread

aaaaaaand back to Wii U

Why you deserve a 5.5 kernel exploit but also why you can't have one: ppc kernel bugs are difficult to find cause smol, iosu kernel bugs are easy to find but take time to exploit cause you gotta do more rop in a different language to run code on a different processor and then do the exploit so it's like 7 steps vs 3. End of story, I'm here all week folks

 

[RareKirby]

So a lot of people here seem to fall into two categories:
- shaming developers who don't release exploits, call them childish
- shaming people who want a release (whiners), call them childish

And I think we've got a bit of this going on: http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2939

That is, outside of the loud, obnoxious people, there are valid opinions that can be had here. Yet due to those very people, both sides view the other side as somewhat toxic.

There's two worlds:

1. Exploit is released to the public

Pros:
- People can use the exploit on at least 5.5.1
- Developers without the exploit can use it to develop homebrew/wii u sdk apps
- Developers interested in exploiting can learn from it and potentially help exploit in the future
- Kernel homebrew can be run on store-bought Wii U's
- Builds the "community"

Cons:
- Nintendo would definitely have the exploit and could patch in a future release
- It's been held private for this long, might as well keep waiting (don't make the waiting pointless)


2. Exploit is kept private until another exploit is public

Pros:
- The (rumored to be very stable) kernel exploit can be used in the future
- With a future deeper exploit (such as IOSU) it would be very useful to have a stable kernel entrypoint
- People who are "in the know" can technically request access to further their understanding now
- Nintendo can't easily patch it if it's not released
- Potentially builds the long-term "community"

Cons:
- If a new private exploit came about and followed this same logic, neither would be public
- Latest Wii U firmware is not exploitable
- Developers who could request access might not want to, as they would prefer it be available to all


Assumptions made:
- There is only one 5.5.1 kernel exploit that works
- That exploit is stable
- That exploit would be perfect for deeper level playing later
- Nintendo would actively patch the exploit


These are not the only arguments that can be made, and there are surely more factors at work here. These are some of the most popular "valid" points that I've seen be made by both sides.

I'd like this thread to be an argument. But I'd also like the argument to focus solely around these pros/cons/assumptions (or new VALID ones). No whining or calling the other side childish. I have the impression that a lot of developers that have the kernel exploit are more quiet than not quiet because anything that they say can be a lightning rod for flamers. This is a "safe space" in that regard. But please, let your opinion be known.

everyone keeps on saying ''nintendo will patch exploit'' Like what does this even mean? Like doesn't blocking nintendo update stop any patches? i

 

[wartimekillers]

Ok, maybe in the next update nintendo wont be patch the kernel exploit, but it will surely patch the userland exploit, and that kernell exploit will be useless in next update. For now i just dont get the logic to keep kernel exploit private.
Btw i can careless about this kernel exploit, like i said before, i deleted tubehax dns, and have fun with online access and eshop.
Its just too long and so many speculation about kernel exploit. Im waiting from december, hoping that i can play Jap region games on my US console if theres any hack, but that amount of time is not worthed anymore.
I do noticed theres a good developer that share everything they've got and childish developer that keep their work private but telling everyone that he's got things that people in this scene wanted. its just childish.
But the most annoying in this kind of conversation is the massive force from "The childish devs asslicker".

 

[Woody8275]

Nintendo will probably never patch the exploit if it remains private as nobody will use it and that is what they want

 

[wartimekillers]

Nintendo will probably never patch the exploit if it remains private as nobody will use it and that is what they want

Maybe, and still i dont understand why nintendo didn't patch the userland exploit until now, its suspicious

 

[Xplic1T]

How about you all stop complaining and just get yourself a 5.4 or sub console ?

Look for Older Bundles....

 

[wartimekillers]

Complaining? Who?

 

[Deleted User]

i have 420 kernel exploits

 

[Dylon99]

i have 420 kernel exploits

4/20/16 was 4 days ago m8, ur late to the party.