PSiCO Scene Group advise on waiting for a new dump tool

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    Note to mods: No links to copyrighted/pirated material are contained here, as it is just information contained in a nfo file.

    The scene Group advises to wait for a proper tool, once full kernel access is available in Henkaku to enable proper decrypted dumps, instead of using modified files/tricks to the current dumps using Vitamin.

    http://rom-news.org/psv/nfo/Uncharted_Golden_Abyss_EUR_PROPER_READNFO_PSV-PSiCO
     
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  2. satan89

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    Hmm can't say I disagree with what they've said.
    Vitamin and Maidumper are excellent tools, of course, but having a dump that is a near perfect image of the game would be ideal. Let's hope everything is as they predict, with new tools after HENkaku source is released.
     
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    snip
     
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  4. Enigma Hall

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    I was ok until that blackfin part. Why is so better?
     
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    Maybe because they are 1:1 rips that run on it.
     
  6. PlaystationTV

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    But when is the henkaku source coming out
     
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    because someone makes money out of it.
     
  8. satan89

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    When someone REs the last part of HENkaku, team molecule may open source it.
     
  9. zoogie

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    I don't know about you guys, but I love this kind of scene trash-talking and drama. :D
     
  10. Reploid

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    why should one wait, when almost full liblariay of games is available already?
     
  11. zoogie

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    Get 70 hours into Final Fantasy before a fatal crash caused by a bad dump wipes your save forever. That's just an example.

    They kind of mentioned that in the .nfo.
     
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    The Scene shouldnt be accepting half baked dumps, there is no total preservation.
     
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  13. Reploid

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    so, one of 100 games can crush at certain point? That a large problem.
     
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    Heres their previous message:

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    A lot of these dumps are dodgy. Some in very subtle ways, which is the worst.
     
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    idk about you guys but I have wait for 4 years for this to happen + there are also a bunch of game I haven't completed yet on other devices so wait a bit more for a " almost perfect - perfect " it's okay.

    Don't wanna play 40 hours into an RPG and then game fail + lost save or something similar like that
     
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  17. metroid maniac

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    I can't disagree with this statement either.

    A proper solution for "backups" will use 1:1 copies of the original games.
    Current dumping methods are inelegant workarounds, trying to wedge backup loading into a homebrew solution. The current dumping tools are certainly impressive technically - being able to patch an executable to force it to dump itself and then reconstruct a binary from that, bypassing both DRM and ASLR without needing kernel control - is very impressive. But this is also the source of many incompatibilities, and it means that Vitamin and Mai dumps are inferior to original games.

    I imagine that if/when this scene matures and we get an open source CFW, people will move away from installing .vpks and using spotty dumping tools. You'll get a PS3-like system that allows you to install clean game .pkg files and fake .rif licenses from .rap files and/or you'll get a cart mounter/emulator (for .psv roms, perhaps?).
    Original binaries will be superior to the frankenstein monsters current tools are able to dump.
     
  18. Speighty1

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    I cant say I disagree with what they are saying but I would rather use the dumps we have now than nothing.
     
  19. leonmagnus99

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    ouch, can this happen with every game ? (that were dumped already with vitamin 1.00/and up?)
     
  20. TwoBladedKnight

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    I may be wrong, but wasn't it said that black fin dumps "aren't complete" and are "weird" by someone well versed in the scene?
     
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