Hacking PSiCO Scene Group advise on waiting for a new dump tool

[retrofan_k]

Note to mods: No links to copyrighted/pirated material are contained here, as it is just information contained in a nfo file.

The scene Group advises to wait for a proper tool, once full kernel access is available in Henkaku to enable proper decrypted dumps, instead of using modified files/tricks to the current dumps using Vitamin.

http://rom-news.org/psv/nfo/Uncharted_Golden_Abyss_EUR_PROPER_READNFO_PSV-PSiCO

 

[satan89]

Hmm can't say I disagree with what they've said.
Vitamin and Maidumper are excellent tools, of course, but having a dump that is a near perfect image of the game would be ideal. Let's hope everything is as they predict, with new tools after HENkaku source is released.

 

[Ldaz]

snip

 

[Enigma Hall]

I was ok until that blackfin part. Why is so better?

 

[retrofan_k]

I was ok until that blackfin part. Why is so better?

Maybe because they are 1:1 rips that run on it.

 

[PlaystationTV]

Hmm can't say I disagree with what they've said.
Vitamin and Maidumper are excellent tools, of course, but having a dump that is a near perfect image of the game would be ideal. Let's hope everything is as they predict, with new tools after HENkaku source is released.

But when is the henkaku source coming out

 

[migles]

I was ok until that blackfin part. Why is so better?

Maybe because they are 1:1 rips that run on it.

because someone makes money out of it.

 

[satan89]

But when is the henkaku source coming out

When someone REs the last part of HENkaku, team molecule may open source it.

 

[zoogie]

I don't know about you guys, but I love this kind of scene trash-talking and drama.

 

[Reploid]

why should one wait, when almost full liblariay of games is available already?

 

[zoogie]

why should one wait, when almost full liblariay of games is available already?

Get 70 hours into Final Fantasy before a fatal crash caused by a bad dump wipes your save forever. That's just an example.

They kind of mentioned that in the .nfo.

 

[Deleted-355425]

The Scene shouldnt be accepting half baked dumps, there is no total preservation.

 

[Reploid]

Get 70 hours into Final Fantasy before a fatal crash caused by a bad dump wipes your save forever. That's just an example.

They kind of mentioned that in the .nfo.

so, one of 100 games can crush at certain point? That a large problem.

 

[Deleted-355425]

Heres their previous message:

 

[zoogie]

so, one of 100 games can crush at certain point? That a large problem.

A lot of these dumps are dodgy. Some in very subtle ways, which is the worst.

 

[saber_gvn]

idk about you guys but I have wait for 4 years for this to happen + there are also a bunch of game I haven't completed yet on other devices so wait a bit more for a " almost perfect - perfect " it's okay.

Don't wanna play 40 hours into an RPG and then game fail + lost save or something similar like that

 

[metroid maniac]

I can't disagree with this statement either.

A proper solution for "backups" will use 1:1 copies of the original games.
Current dumping methods are inelegant workarounds, trying to wedge backup loading into a homebrew solution. The current dumping tools are certainly impressive technically - being able to patch an executable to force it to dump itself and then reconstruct a binary from that, bypassing both DRM and ASLR without needing kernel control - is very impressive. But this is also the source of many incompatibilities, and it means that Vitamin and Mai dumps are inferior to original games.

I imagine that if/when this scene matures and we get an open source CFW, people will move away from installing .vpks and using spotty dumping tools. You'll get a PS3-like system that allows you to install clean game .pkg files and fake .rif licenses from .rap files and/or you'll get a cart mounter/emulator (for .psv roms, perhaps?).
Original binaries will be superior to the frankenstein monsters current tools are able to dump.

 

[Speighty1]

I cant say I disagree with what they are saying but I would rather use the dumps we have now than nothing.

 

[leonmagnus99]

Get 70 hours into Final Fantasy before a fatal crash caused by a bad dump wipes your save forever. That's just an example.

They kind of mentioned that in the .nfo.

ouch, can this happen with every game ? (that were dumped already with vitamin 1.00/and up?)

 

[TwoBladedKnight]

Maybe because they are 1:1 rips that run on it.

I may be wrong, but wasn't it said that black fin dumps "aren't complete" and are "weird" by someone well versed in the scene?