[POLL] U.S. Presidential Election 2016

[sarkwalvein]

My gut is never wrong, and it tells me that the USA will turn into a BTTF-like living hell, if Trump wins.

LOL, well after all D. Trump was used as a model for the BTTF2 Biff character.

 

[Procyon]

LOL, well after all D. Trump was used as a model for the BTTF2 Bill character.

Then I guess they knew the truth behind him, and it was Biff

 

[Foxi4]

Well, I agree with that. Only that I don't see how Trump represents any type of improvement against the hypocrisy of PC.
He is just another type of hypocrite, he is just playing an anti-PC as a publicity stunt but what is behind that play?
Well, a very dangerous demagogue IMHO.

PS: Why very dangerous? Well just look what kind of sentiment he is trying to awake in people and use to support its campaign.

I'm okay with duping suckers into voting. The whole message of "go out and vote" has always been about getting large masses of the dumbest, most uninformed voters into the polling stations because those are the people advertising works on. The voting game has always been disingenuous.

My gut is never wrong, and it tells me that the USA will turn into a BTTF-like living hell, if Trump wins.

I'm afraid that your personal gut feeling, a subjective opinion by definition, doesn't carry much weight. As far as I'm concerned, I'd rather have a businessman in the White House than a politician-wannabe. As I've already said earlier in this thread, anyone who aspires to participating in politics as a career should be disqualified from becoming a politicians on that basis. That, and BTTF2 was great - are you hating on Hoverboards? I am pro Hoverboards, any society that leads to the invention of Hoverboards is great, you lose by default.

 

[Procyon]

I'm okay with duping suckers into voting. They whole message of "go out and vote" has always been about getting large masses of the dumbest, most uninformed voters into the polling stations because those are the people advertising works on.
I'm afraid that your personal gut feeling, a subjective opinion by definition, doesn't carry much weight. As far as I'm concerned, I'd rather have a businessman in the White House than a politician-wannabe. As I've already said earlier in this thread, anyone who aspires to participating in politics as a career should be disqualified from becoming a politicians on that basis.

Well, I think a businessman, who is gross, annoys a lot of people, humiliates people, says things he better shouldn't say etc. is in my eyes a misfit

 

[Foxi4]

Well, I think a businessman, who is gross, annoys a lot of people, humiliates people, says things he better shouldn't say etc. is in my eyes a misfit

And I think that makes him a perfect candidate - a human, for a change.

Vote Trump/Hoverboards 2016.

 

[Procyon]

And I think that makes him a perfect candidate - a human, for a change.

Vote Trump/Hoverboards 2016.

Nope, he is not a fitting person, but you'll find out in due time.

 

[Foxi4]

Nope, he is not a fitting person, but you'll find out in due time.

Perhaps, but I find him better than the alternative. I've already stated that this election is screwed from the outset as there are no good candidates running. Every second spent on discussing how Trump says "mean things" is a second that's wasted - firstly because it contributes to a conversation that has nothing to do with policy, secondly because he's entitled to say whatever's on his mind - free speech. I specifically like the "Drumpf" movement, because according to the left we can make fun of Trump's family for changing their goofy name, but God forbid you call Caitlyn Jenner "Bruce" - if you do that, you're a hate monger. Everything is fucked, "if it's going to get worse, it might as well get funnier" - that's what my uncle used to say, and I subscribe to it to a fault.

 

[gnmmarechal]

Do I really have to make this decision? I'm not going to vote for Gary Johnson or Jill Stein, as neither of them even have a remote chance of winning. That leaves Trump and Hillary. The problem is, both of these candidates fucking suck! Their views align in many ways (not all ways, but quite a few), so I think we'll be in the same position next "voting season" with either candidate. The only reason I'd vote for Trump is because I'm a strong conservative and simply can't find it in myself to support a liberal candidate. So, if I vote, I'll be (reluctantly) voting for Trump.

If many people think like this, they will never support the minor candidates. Imo, you should still vote in the minor candidate as to state your own opinion regardless of results. For the same reason why blank votes are better than not voting at all.

 

[Procyon]

Perhaps, but I find him better than the alternative. I've already stated that this election is screwed from the outset as there are no good candidates running. Every second spent on discussing how Trump says "mean things" is a second that's wasted - firstly because it contributes to a conversation that has nothing to do with policy, secondly because he's entitled to say whatever's on his mind - free speech. I specifically like the "Drumpf" movement, because according to the left we can make fun of Trump for changing his goofy name to something he likes better, but God forbid you call Caitlyn Jenner "Bruce" - if you do that, you're a hate monger. Everything is fucked, "if it's going to get worse, it might as well get funnier" - that's what my uncle used to say, and I subscribe to it to a fault.

He never changed his name, it were his far ancestors

 

[Foxi4]

He never changed his name, it were his far ancestors

You're absolutely right, my bad, I misspoke, but you get my point. Thank you for pointing that out, I've corrected my statement accordingly.

 

[Logan Pockrus]

If many people think like this, they will never support the minor candidates. Imo, you should still vote in the minor candidate as to state your own opinion regardless of results. For the same reason why blank votes are better than not voting at all.

Trust me, I was considering Johnson for a while after writing that post. Now I'm just not going to vote, probably.

 

[netovsk]

And what do you guys think of Hillary's persistence of setting up a no-fly zone over Aleppo?

Wouldn't that result in an act of aggression against Russia?

I don't want to enter into conspiracy theories here but doesn't make sense, risking going to war with russia because US wants to make a stand.

It's almost as if there are certain parties who want it to happen because they profit from war, but I might be paranoid.

 

[RevPokemon]

And what do you guys think of Hillary's persistence of setting up a no-fly zone over Aleppo?

Wouldn't that result in an act of aggression against Russia?

I don't want to enter into conspiracy theories here but doesn't make sense, risking going to war with russia because US wants to make a stand.

It's almost as if there are certain parties who want it to happen because they profit from war, but I might be paranoid.

Clinton has long been one of the more hawkish/pro interventionist Democrats and has supported U.S involvement in at least 4 wars (Serbia, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya) and possibly more (which to be far I will not count). Regardless with a record like that you have to be concerned about how she would handle the situation as to if America should intervene with military presence in the area or elsewhere.
Why does Clinton (and other Democrats) do this? She saw Democratic senators politically damaged by voting against the 1991 war against Iraq, and she was not about to take the risk of opposing the next one. Regardless the often outcome is historically (i.e. Vietnam) people who have been vocally against these wars have had hurt public images and often have been accused of not supporting their country. But yes, there are reasons as to why congress supports these wars outside of the "good" that they bring to the region.



Also anybody have thoughts on this?
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/785154577209315328

 

[Joe88]

NBC's skewed polling exposed

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...osed-about-that-nbcwsj-clinton-11-point-poll/

and this is why msm polling should not be trusted, and no public polling should be trusted before anyone asks
just like cnn just got caught on camera telling "unbiased" voters what to say with their poll group stunt they tried to pull

These leaked podesta emails are also exposing all sorts of things (and its just getting started, still over 45000 emails to be released)
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/785859672356032512
https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4433?1

http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/10/...ortedly-wrote-saudi-arabia-qatar-funding-isis
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3774

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fobs...e-special-attention-friends/story?id=42615379

 

[Viri]

https://twitter.com/WDFx2EU7/status/784856591224844288/video/1

So, how big do you think Obama is? I suppose Trump and Bill aren't the only perverts

 

[Lacius]

NBC's skewed polling exposed

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...osed-about-that-nbcwsj-clinton-11-point-poll/

and this is why msm polling should not be trusted, and no public polling should be trusted before anyone asks
just like cnn just got caught on camera telling "unbiased" voters what to say with their poll group stunt they tried to pull

These leaked podesta emails are also exposing all sorts of things (and its just getting started, still over 45000 emails to be released)
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/785859672356032512
https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4433?1

http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/10/...ortedly-wrote-saudi-arabia-qatar-funding-isis
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3774

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fobs...e-special-attention-friends/story?id=42615379

The NBC poll is methodologically sound (although no one should ever listen to a single poll), the leaked emails don't do anything to expose anything that actually hurts Hillary Clinton, and some of the leaked emails have been proven to be fake.

http://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-pu...-clinton-donald-trump-benghazi-sputnik-508635

 

[RevPokemon]

the leaked emails don't do anything to expose anything that actually hurts Hillary Clinton,

Maybe not "hurt her" but it certainly will not help.

 

[I pwned U!]

The NBC poll is methodologically sound (although no one should ever listen to a single poll), the leaked emails don't do anything to expose anything that actually hurts Hillary Clinton, and some of the leaked emails have been proven to be fake.

http://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-pu...-clinton-donald-trump-benghazi-sputnik-508635

You are a fraud. Link to actual email: https://t.co/akvUCmWbot it is clearly not implying that you are Sidney Blumenthal.

— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) October 11, 2016

As soon as I saw that pathetic excuse of a hit piece this morning, I just knew that you would link to Kurt Eichenwald's misinformation in this thread.

 

[Lacius]

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/785683111614873604
As soon as I saw that pathetic excuse of a hit piece this morning, I just knew that you would link to Kurt Eichenwald's misinformation in this thread.

That's not how it's being reported by the right.

Edit: In other words, don't blame me or Eichenwald for Trump's misinformation.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-trump-incorrectly-pins-benghazi-criticism-s/

 

[RevPokemon]

That's not how it's being reported by the right.

Edit: In other words, don't blame me or Eichenwald for Trump's misinformation.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-trump-incorrectly-pins-benghazi-criticism-s/

The left using this to show that Wikileaks is against Hilliary, however is an issue as well.