has anyone noticed that political conversations on here are the absolute worst and conform fairly well to established alt-right online invasion tactics
political discussion always attracts the right, who turn relatively short, simple discussions into far-reaching philosophical discussions that have nothing to do with the original point
concern trolling and war of attrition tactics are used where they just go on and on forever and cede nothing, giving the impression there's a healthy debate about whether-
(checks notes)
-whether the law should oppress minorities for existing
what value is being extracted by having these conversations
continually correcting people when they're persistently wrong is fine, but like... for how long
Lol rofl. Believe it or not, I vote left. Nearly 100% of the time. My views on the economy, the race problems, the environment, war and where I want this country to be is leftist. I hate big business. Couldn't care less about corporate profits. Even some aspects of immigration. I don't think someone who's illegal and never paid dime in taxes should be allowed to vote, purchase real estate or be able collect anything except a free ride home or to jail but I think there should be a reasonable path to citizenship if someone wants to work hard and pay their dues. I want more strict gun control laws. I don't practice organized religion. I want to invest heavily in green tech and I think global warming is a HUGE problem. I still wear masks. Have every vaccine. I am pro choice and support the gay community.
That said BLM can kiss my ass, it's so far from what it claims to be. Total bullshit. I support the police.
Wokeness on the surface is great. Being kind, considerate and inclusive sounds wonderful. However wokeness in actual practice isn't about being nice to each other so the world can be better place. It's about pandering to the lowest commom denominatior and mob rule
I don't care about people's identity. None of my business. I don't care about their agenda. I don't care who where or what adults go to for sex. I don't care about what adults want to do to their bodies, what they want to call themselves. I don't care how they conduct themselves around other adults. None of my business.
I do care if they want to involve kids or people that do not consent. They have rights too. The door for freedom and free speech swings both ways. For everyone. From the LGBTQIA to the KKK. From the left to the right. Like it or not, the craziest people have the same rights you do. And they think you are the crazy one.
I think the whole thing gets blown out of proportion all the time but when kids are in the crossfire I see why it gets so emotional.
It's all so stupid and hypocritical.
Parents have the right to teach their kids whatever they want. They.are the responsible party. They are the ones with the brain, hopefully. You can't tell somone to teach their kid your values. You can't make decisions for someone else's kids. You have to let parents be parents. It's their kid. Parents can't even discipline their kids without some legal risks. But you still want the kids to know right from wrong and grow in to decent people.
Kids have the right to be kids. Nine out of ten prefer crayons to guns and none of them care about your gender issues. They all want toys and play time not drugs and therapy. Anyone who stands in their way is stealing their childhood and should be stopped. Anyone who performs unnecessary surgeries on a minor should be jailed. Sex changes are not necessary. A tonsillectomy is necessary, a voluntary mastectomy is not. Your child isn't trapped in their body but they may be trapped in your delusion.
But you just want them to be happy, right?
Leave them kids alone.
Gender identities? Adults, you can be you! Love who want! Modify yourself! Do anything you want as long as you aren't harming anyone else. Having a 6ft3 obvious man in the women's room harms people. It scares women and children. Not because of intolerance but because of common sense. The whole reason gender specific places exist is because, like it or not, it had been an issue! There's a lot of sickos. It's kinda like gun control. Blanket laws because of few sickos. You may not be a threat. Most.gun owners/trans may not be a threat. The general idea is to protect the innocent, non involved, maybe weaker, maybe unable to consent people. Like it or not, some people are fucked. Men/women/trans/armed/unarmed. Let's just agree protect the weaker people so everyone has a shot at happiness.
You need women's spaces. The women need places to feel safe. There shouldn't be any guys in their sports
It's not fair or safe. They need their bathrooms too. Trans doesn't equal pervert but there are plenty of perverts pretending to be trans.
Just give the benefit of the doubt and the advantage to the women and children. Why not? Leave them alone.
Laws that outline proper behavior in these cases are, it seems, necessary. People can't be trusted to make the right decision for YOU or YOUR loved ones. What those laws should entail?? We'll figure it out. It will take time.
Just leave the women and children alone. The macho monkey brigade will calm down eventually and so will the bitchy femms. Lead by example. Stop trying to wake people. It won't work. Stop putting your feelings and fears before others. Society is a giant compromise. Nobody gets everything they want but everyone should be okay. Everyone should feel safe. And stop playing the victim. There are oppressors but you're not oppressed. There's very few places left where you can't be you. People don't have to like you. They just have to let you be. Get over it. Lead by example. Be a good person and leave this world better than you found it.
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