Opinions on the anti-lgbtq legislation.

[Coto]

Evolution is usually associated with “development” and “natural selection”, and usually caries a positive connotation with it regarding adaptability. Language changes, but not all changes are good, hence my interest in the distinction. Replace hubris with pride, it still carries the general sentiment of what I was trying to communicate. Are you suggesting that pride is good, and therefore a justification??



Here you used the words evolving AND changes. Why?



You don’t need to do anything. You don’t need to respond to me, you don’t need to explain yourself, you don’t even need to be here. The fact that you do these things communicates a sense of personal obligation on your part. Mods can silence people. I am not a mod and cannot silence anyone. I’m sorry if I appear mean or insensitive, but I did not attend hospitality classes before posting my point of view. I’m also sorry that you don’t seem to agree that the meaning of words are important in a discussion.



In other words,”My opinions have equal matter as yours, but not in practice.”

Marxism Leninism. It's just that specific group of people are unable to snap out of their ideologies. (as in being "contaminated to think and react to certain stimuli", until it's too late for themselves and their country)

Chilean Armed Forces take for granted the following Marxism Leninism concepts (as an evolved concept of it as in the 70s, when the KGB tried to take over Chile in 1972, but less Leninist and more Progressive)

What's does it do?

It normalizes social constructs previously established based on reality (seeking to move what is good and bad).
The process was invented by KGB agents of the USSR, Yuri Bezmenov.

It ain't coincidence the Chinese Communist Party the #1 investor of the United Nations (Propagandists of Progressivism, financed by taxes),
Amnesty International (Human Rights that have Chile submerged in Caribbean invasion, coincidentally having the Judiciary taken over by Human Right activists who will put in jail anybody against Socialist ideologies).

How is it done?

Appeals to paroxysms, ideological banners easy to digest in the subconscious (which is emotional), so that it destroys any manifestation of geopolitical defense (preserving values nation, society, ability to respond to the enemy), and is a weapon of psychological warfare.

What are the ways of transmitting Ideological Marxism?

Ideologies (example: Feminist Gender Ideology), Terrorism, Language, LGBT (as in mutilation of the subject's body), Law, War Academies

Detail

For example, Feminism, which by definition is the collective of women against a collective of men, generates a fracture in society, destroys the family, and ends up generating the necessary variables for other ideological derivatives to be installed, such as Anarchism.


Anarchism has different ideological currents, one of the most prominent is plurinationalism, the war of territorial ethnicities. As well as other derivatives, for example, urban tribes, which fall into the same rhetoric: appeal to youth, to destabilize the country through the narco culture. (territorial ghettos type, objectification of women, narcoterrorism, "sicariato", anarchist territorial takeovers that have political objectives, linked to the Narco State)

War Academies has Chinese communist proxies teaching (since 2005) our chilean Armed Forces about how "good is to embrace Marxism" (translate to Japanese or English)

 

[linuxares]

Evolution is usually associated with “development” and “natural selection”, and usually caries a positive connotation with it regarding adaptability. Language changes, but not all changes are good, hence my interest in the distinction. Replace hubris with pride, it still carries the general sentiment of what I was trying to communicate. Are you suggesting that pride is good, and therefore a justification??



Here you used the words evolving AND changes. Why?



You don’t need to do anything. You don’t need to respond to me, you don’t need to explain yourself, you don’t even need to be here. The fact that you do these things communicates a sense of personal obligation on your part. Mods can silence people. I am not a mod and cannot silence anyone. I’m sorry if I appear mean or insensitive, but I did not attend hospitality classes before posting my point of view. I’m also sorry that you don’t seem to agree that the meaning of words are important in a discussion.



In other words,”My opinions have equal matter as yours, but not in practice.”

1) Don't try to put words in my mouth as it was a prime example. Do you know what an example is?
Languages changes and evolves. Mix and matches, reforms and bends.
Same thing with people you know? One day you didn't like onions. Tomorrow you might!

2) Evolve is more specific while change is more fluent. You can look up transformative if you so wish.

3) Same goes back to you? You don't need to be here either? You don't need to dip your nose in every topic in the political section yet, here you are? You try to overpower someone because of their age. Instead of trying educate your view you try to bash them down with master suppression techniques. When you don't get your way, you seem to take it as a personal goal to try to beat down the other person anyway shape or form.

4) Ah yes, the classic Tabzer defense "Mod can silence me, therefore they're wrong" even though we do try our best to uphold the rules of the site (which I haven't been a part of making). If I wanted to silence you, I would already have done so no? Removed one little post that violated the rules isn't censoring you in any shape or form. I could rule with an ironfist and do a ResetEra or Reddit mode style. Yet, here we are. You still are on GBAtemp and not banned?

If you want full free speech, go out in a public park. Stand on a public street and shout your message. A private forum is in no way a government property.

Oh on a side note, I did however silence two people just bickering with each other from replying in this topic and didn't try to engage in a discussion. They can however read this topic fine and even react to posts.



5) About the Cis thing. I just found it very facinating that it isn't a modern term but one over 100 years old or more. I though it was a "tumblr" thing at first.

 

[Xzi]

I’m going to call you a fragile white male from now on and you are going to respect that fact.

Nothing fragile about my masculinity, being called "cis" is not offensive to me in the least. Even happy to take it as a compliment when gay guys hit on me, though I don't let it get further than that before establishing that I'm straight. Positivity breeds more positivity, and negativity breeds more negativity.

 

[SylverReZ]

About the Cis thing. I just found it very facinating that it isn't a modern term but one over 100 years old or more. I though it was a "tumblr" thing at first.

I've seen this term changed overtime, its now offensive to use it to degrade trans people.

Nothing fragile about my masculinity, being called "cis" is not offensive to me in the least. Even happy to take it as a compliment when gay guys hit on me, though I don't let it get further than that before establishing that I'm straight. Positivity breeds more positivity, and negativity breeds more negativity.

If you're happy about your identity, you're still valid by everyone and in my books too.

 

[tabzer]

1) Don't try to put words in my mouth as it was a prime example. Do you know what an example is?
Languages changes and evolves. Mix and matches, reforms and bends.
Same thing with people you know? One day you didn't like onions. Tomorrow you might!

2) Evolve is more specific while change is more fluent. You can look up transformative if you so wish.

3) Same goes back to you? You don't need to be here either? You don't need to dip your nose in every topic in the political section yet, here you are? You try to overpower someone because of their age. Instead of trying educate your view you try to bash them down with master suppression techniques. When you don't get your way, you seem to take it as a personal goal to try to beat down the other person anyway shape or form.

4) Ah yes, the classic Tabzer defense "Mod can silence me, therefore they're wrong" even though we do try our best to uphold the rules of the site (which I haven't been a part of making). If I wanted to silence you, I would already have done so no? Removed one little post that violated the rules isn't censoring you in any shape or form. I could rule with an ironfist and do a ResetEra or Reddit mode style. Yet, here we are. You still are on GBAtemp and not banned?

If you want full free speech, go out in a public park. Stand on a public street and shout your message. A private forum is in no way a government property.

Oh on a side note, I did however silence two people just bickering with each other from replying in this topic and didn't try to engage in a discussion. They can however read this topic fine and even react to posts.



5) About the Cis thing. I just found it very facinating that it isn't a modern term but one over 100 years old or more. I though it was a "tumblr" thing at first.

1. I am not trying to put words in your mouth. I did mock your seemingly apparant conflict of interest in regards to “all opinions are equal” and being a mod. That’s why I would never want your position. You have no choice but to censor opinions based on what you feel is the well-being of the website. You are operating at the expense of a business. You post moral platitudes at your own peril.

2. In regards to the connotations of evolution, I’m not very interested in trying to convince you that people generally consider evolution as a progressive motion. If you don’t agree, fine.

3. When you lead with phrasing as “I don’t need (to do this)” it implies some sort of charity on your part. I never implied I am doing what I do out of charity. This parlay only works one way.

3b. Telling a kid to talk to his parents, learn how to use a dictionary and respect the meanings of what people say. “Master supression techniques”. Gawd. I can be obtuse and abrasive, but you are giving me too much credit, and him too little. You want to coddle, I go for tough love. Good thing we aren’t married.

4. I never said you were wrong because you were mod. And despite you silencing me, I have adapted, at an expense. I’m not even pretending that we are advocating for free speech here. We plainly agree that it doesn’t exist here. I’m pointing out how your claim that “all opinions matter” is fucking ironic in its placement of an opinion that you deleted.

5. Cis in the English language is very modern. I don’t know german well enough to understand how it was presented in the context you provided. I agree it is interesting, but based on how it is used, I still think it’s only useful to people who want to label people as trans and non-trans. As far as I am concerned, everyone is trans and nobody can represent cis.

 

[The Catboy]

A lot of talking at each other and repeating a lot of the same talking points. Doesn’t that get tiresome? Have y’all ever considered just dropping terms like “lgbt” and collectivist bullshit and focusing on the individual? I’ve found a lot of shitty people of all sexes, genders, races, sexuality, etc. and a lot of indefensible shit as well, like Drag Queens dressing as demons to read super questionable stories to kids. Quite honestly, I think all sides have some point they are getting too but then getting too defensive about it. This is why I’ve decided to stop being involved in the lgbt/trans community and just focused on my own issues. I am against anti-lgbt legislative as they are government overreach and I am against that. But ultimately, I treat all people on an individual basis and I wish people do the same

 

[tabzer]

Nothing fragile about my masculinity, being called "cis" is not offensive to me in the least. Even happy to take it as a compliment when gay guys hit on me, though I don't let it get further than that before establishing that I'm straight. Positivity breeds more positivity, and negativity breeds more negativity.

I don’t know how stable your “masculinity” is, but fragile white male is a fact now. I don’t actually believe that guys get offended by guys hitting on them these days as it is usually the women who get offended. You call yourself straight because of your insecurity with the fluid nature of sexuality. You only like a little male attention, and that’s good enough for you. You wouldn’t consider that makes you kind of gay because that would ruin your image of yourself as being straight—because it matters very much.

 

[Japermen]

whats wrong with readin a book

You can read a book without your balls hanging out for all the kids to see.

 

[Xzi]

I don’t know how stable your “masculinity” is, but fragile white male is a fact now.

And white male fragility always involves reactionary takes on pronouns and the use of words like "cis." I'm not worried that the English language might somehow make me less of a man.

You only like a little male attention, and that’s good enough for you. You wouldn’t consider that makes you kind of gay because that would ruin your image of yourself as being straight—because it matters very much.

There's nothing wrong with two men complimenting each other, regardless of whether they're straight/gay/trans/etc. It has no effect on your sexual identity or gender expression.

If you're suggesting that sexual orientation is a spectrum rather than binary, I'm in full agreement. Almost every straight guy has one or two "I'm not gay, but..." exceptions in the back of their subconscious, and straight women tend to be fairly open to one-off gay or bisexual experiences.

 

[lolcatzuru]

And white male fragility always involves reactionary takes on pronouns and the use of words like "cis." I'm not worried that the English language might somehow make me less of a man.


There's nothing wrong with two men complimenting each other, regardless of whether they're straight/gay/trans/etc. It has no effect on your sexual identity or gender expression.

If you're suggesting that sexual orientation is a spectrum rather than binary, I'm in full agreement. Almost every straight guy has one or two "I'm not gay, but..." exceptions in the back of their subconscious, and straight women tend to be fairly open to one-off gay or bisexual experiences.

glad to hear im the exception.

 

[tabzer]

And white male fragility always involves reactionary takes on pronouns and the use of words like "cis." I'm not worried that the English language might somehow make me less of a man.

It seems that you are operating under the logic that because white fragile males react to “cis” and “pronouns”, that reactions to “cis” and “pronouns” implies fragile white males. This type of logical fallacy is consistent with your approach to almost everything you talk about.

There's nothing wrong with two men complimenting each other, regardless of whether they're straight/gay/trans/etc. It has no effect on your sexual identity or gender expression.

I’m sorry. I am not implying that being gay is wrong, but your “reaction” seems to be defensively doing so. Again, whether you like guys hitting on you doesn’t affect your sexuality, but it does reveal something about it.

If you're suggesting that sexual orientation is a spectrum rather than binary, I'm in full agreement. Almost every straight guy has one or two "I'm not gay, but..." exceptions in the back of their subconscious, and straight women tend to be fairly open to one-off gay or bisexual experiences.

Then why bother calling yourself straight and pretending that you are confident in that?

 

[TraderPatTX]

I have no problem with the pro-children's safety laws being passed. The only people who are against these laws keeping adult content away from children are groomers. I know this will rile up the pedo-adjacent far leftists around these parts, but it's true.

 

[Deleted member 571007]

This thread has gone down hill quickly. This should be GBATemp's political board anthem.

Only replying to say that this is actually a pretty damn good song.

Now back into the abyss I go!

 

[SylverReZ]

Now back into the abyss I go!

And then re-appear.

 

[brunocar]

the issue isnt letting them live their life, its the powers behind them demanding other people conform to what they believe , even if its 100% ass backwards and wrong and proven wrong with REAL SCIENCE, and not made up "its on the internet written by 1000 liars, with no meidcal backing what so ever, so its true bs).. this stuff does also not belong is schools PERIOD.. teachers are not doctors and do not have the right to be giving out what in theory is MEDICAL ADVICE to children WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT. This should be 100% punishable by law and removal of your job for acting as a medical professional on the matter which these teachers are most certainly are not..they are basically practicing medicine without a license... If a parent is kicked out of a school board meeting by reading lines from a book thats in that school's library, not only is that proving it to be 100% not school and age safe in any way, its proof they are not being honest about this groups motives.. And the fact theres ppl who simply use LGBTQ stuff as cheat code to get to the front of the line of things they dont belong in to begin with.. your sex orientation has nothing to do with getting jobs.. stop touting you are X Y OR Z as way to get in by a very illegal quota system that they refuse to admit is being used by companies b/c certain companies funnel billions into them demanding they conform to these ass backwards systems or else..extortion at its finest.. either you meet the requirements for a job or you dont.. i dont care what you claim you say you are.. stop using that as a " they are a phobic work place and should be boycotted bs b/c they didnt hire a LGBTQ person".. these mouthpieces often get caught being wrong time and time again and their reaction? call you a racist/phobe/ cry to the media when they were the bully and instigator of the issue.. maybe they will get taken seriously if they come out and say they beleive the groups who get these donations for lgbtq stuff are nothing but scams and racists/phobic people looking to enfoce anti-constitutional tactics to silence people and that they do not speak for their views and opinions and havent seen a dollar of those donations that are supposed to help them, and not go to the very clearly extorition leaders at the top of those schemes.... live your life.. and leave everyone else alone.. if someone who doesnt know you calls you a he/ she based on your appearance and are wrong, dont be nasty back to them like they know you and should have known that .. anti-lgbtq laws will keep popping up until those ppl learn the world doesnt revolve around them, and you cant force ppl to like you or accept you b/c you decided to identify as a cyborg human dog toy for that day... and a fluffy cat ball of yarn the next... if you leave them alone, they wont bother you back.. but the minute you start interfering in schools and work places, you started a war and lose any credibility of getting respected..

bro im not gonna read about your hate crimes, but at least learn to use the enter key

 

[SylverReZ]

the issue isnt letting them live their life, its the powers behind them demanding other people conform to what they believe , even if its 100% ass backwards and wrong and proven wrong with REAL SCIENCE, and not made up "its on the internet written by 1000 liars, with no meidcal backing what so ever, so its true bs).. this stuff does also not belong is schools PERIOD.. teachers are not doctors and do not have the right to be giving out what in theory is MEDICAL ADVICE to children WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT. This should be 100% punishable by law and removal of your job for acting as a medical professional on the matter which these teachers are most certainly are not..they are basically practicing medicine without a license... If a parent is kicked out of a school board meeting by reading lines from a book thats in that school's library, not only is that proving it to be 100% not school and age safe in any way, its proof they are not being honest about this groups motives.. And the fact theres ppl who simply use LGBTQ stuff as cheat code to get to the front of the line of things they dont belong in to begin with.. your sex orientation has nothing to do with getting jobs.. stop touting you are X Y OR Z as way to get in by a very illegal quota system that they refuse to admit is being used by companies b/c certain companies funnel billions into them demanding they conform to these ass backwards systems or else..extortion at its finest.. either you meet the requirements for a job or you dont.. i dont care what you claim you say you are.. stop using that as a " they are a phobic work place and should be boycotted bs b/c they didnt hire a LGBTQ person".. these mouthpieces often get caught being wrong time and time again and their reaction? call you a racist/phobe/ cry to the media when they were the bully and instigator of the issue.. maybe they will get taken seriously if they come out and say they beleive the groups who get these donations for lgbtq stuff are nothing but scams and racists/phobic people looking to enfoce anti-constitutional tactics to silence people and that they do not speak for their views and opinions and havent seen a dollar of those donations that are supposed to help them, and not go to the very clearly extorition leaders at the top of those schemes.... live your life.. and leave everyone else alone.. if someone who doesnt know you calls you a he/ she based on your appearance and are wrong, dont be nasty back to them like they know you and should have known that .. anti-lgbtq laws will keep popping up until those ppl learn the world doesnt revolve around them, and you cant force ppl to like you or accept you b/c you decided to identify as a cyborg human dog toy for that day... and a fluffy cat ball of yarn the next... if you leave them alone, they wont bother you back.. but the minute you start interfering in schools and work places, you started a war and lose any credibility of getting respected..

Nice copypasta bro, lol. I don't need to read about your issues. Did somebody forget his medication again?

 

[Xzi]

It seems that you are operating under the logic that because white fragile males react to “cis” and “pronouns”, that reactions to “cis” and “pronouns” implies fragile white males. This type of logical fallacy is consistent with your approach to almost everything you talk about.

"Reactionary" is not the same as "any given reaction." People who get massively riled up over a discussion on the definition of words reveal more about themselves than they intend to. It's not an absolute in every circumstance, but just look at how many of the most homophobic preachers have been caught sleeping with men.

Again, whether you like guys hitting on you doesn’t affect your sexuality, but it does reveal something about it.

I much prefer getting hit on by women, but guess who straight women love hanging out with? Gay guys. The more experiences you're open to, the more opportunities you're presented with.

Then why bother calling yourself straight and pretending that you are confident in that?

Because I fall well within the straight portion of the spectrum. I've only ever been attracted to and slept with women. If I was insecure about my sexual identity, I wouldn't be okay with going into this much detail about it on the internet.

Put simply: if random momentary and intrusive thoughts defined who we are, everybody on Earth would be a suicidal and bisexual.

 

[wartutor]

Fine, if someone dressed up as Aerith Gainsborough, Mario, or the Doomslayer then. It's just outfits that are for fun and nothing more than that.


I'm not even asking that people accept it, just to mind their own business unless there is an actual problem with what is being done. If it suddenly became a pandemic of sorts where kids were being abused in any sense of the word on a large scale, then yeah I would say do something about it and bring it to light more, but as it stands it is just people doing something fun for themselves and kids.

Also, weren't you the one saying something about raising kids the way they want earlier? Yet you have issues with parents taking their kids to something they have deemed safe for their kids and obviously not harming them? Seems you want to make and push rules onto others, but not have the same rules pushed onto yourself

1. Yes they are just costumes just like a man dressing like a woman is just a costume. At the end of the day when there bones are dug up 1000 years from now and someone looks at the pelvis they will say "male died in there (insert age here). Check DNA X and Y chromosomes dont lie. But back on point some costumes are not suitable for children expecially at a early age. We shouldnt have to make laws to state this but one side keeps pushing it further.

2. I do mind my own business and it becomes my business when the teacher decides to have a person with a different life style (only way i could think of saying it without coming off as a complete dick) read to children in class without consent. I should always have the final say in what my child is subject to...now go back to class and teach them reading or math because the whole world knows our students are falling way behind on the important issues.

3. See #2. As long as their parents feel it is ok then it is none of my business just like it is none of their business if i want to teach my child that homosexuality is a sin and blah blah. (Even though i dont believe in that or god just referencing the other side of the arguement.) You cant step on other peoples toes and get mad when the stomp yours back.

 

[Darth Meteos]

on my way out, though, shout out to walter, the man's mouth is full-up right now
the online version of the guy whose only role is to stand behind a pastor and go "preach, reverend"

the man really messaged me after this with the subject "Do we have a problem, little boy?"
the cringe is real

At the end of the day when there bones are dug up 1000 years from now and someone looks at the pelvis they will say "male died in there (insert age here). Check DNA X and Y chromosomes dont lie.

ah yes, the only valid ways to interface with the human condition are ones that can be identified by an archaeologist from a skeleton
you're a serious fella, big smrt

 

[The Catboy]

1. Yes they are just costumes just like a man dressing like a woman is just a costume. At the end of the day when there bones are dug up 1000 years from now and someone looks at the pelvis they will say "male died in there (insert age here). Check DNA X and Y chromosomes dont lie. But back on point some costumes are not suitable for children expecially at a early age. We shouldnt have to make laws to state this but one side keeps pushing it further.

2. I do mind my own business and it becomes my business when the teacher decides to have a person with a different life style (only way i could think of saying it without coming off as a complete dick) read to children in class without consent. I should always have the final say in what my child is subject to...now go back to class and teach them reading or math because the whole world knows our students are falling way behind on the important issues.

3. See #2. As long as their parents feel it is ok then it is none of my business just like it is none of their business if i want to teach my child that homosexuality is a sin and blah blah. (Even though i dont believe in that or god just referencing the other side of the arguement.) You cant step on other peoples toes and get mad when the stomp yours back.

Damn, you going with all of the generic replies with these ones. Reminds me of the time I was told that I would never be a woman.