Obama announces he supports same-sex marriage

[smile72]

Source:CNN
http://articles.cnn.com/2012-05-09/politics/politics_obama-same-sex-marriage_1_gay-marriage-civil-unions-word-marriage

Now I know this is a couple of days old, but nobody (from what I've seen is discussing this) while I'll agree no president has ever endorsed same sex marriage, his endorsement is pretty much nothing... it's the same shit we have now leave it up to the states......... I'm also posting this due to what Senator Rand Paul said (6000 years of tradition) http://www.latimes.c...0,7525076.story

And what that moron Bristol Palin said http://www.usatoday....iage/54912648/1

She said children do better with a mother and father (where's Levi?)

 

[chains_of_androm]

Well there is the seperation of Federal and State government, so who knows..but good step nevertheless.

 

[smile72]

Well there is the seperation of Federal and State government, so who knows..but good step nevertheless.

No with civil rights, under our 14th amendment (to a real liberal) this is a federal issue.

 

[The Catboy]

I hope this gets the USA one step closer to finally allowing gay marriage, that way I can finally stop being the scapegoat for all the worlds problems.

 

[Deleted member 256505]

Obama's "support" of gay marriage is nothing more than a calculated ruse in order to rake in campaign donations at a time when his re-election is on the line.

 

[smile72]

Obama's "support" of gay marriage is nothing more than a calculated ruse in order to rake in campaign donations at a time when his re-election is on the line.

No, I believe he supports it, when he ran for the Illinois Senate he supported it, that was in 1996 I think, but this is as good, as saying I support civil unions, it's garbage.

 

[MelodieOctavia]

Obama's "support" of gay marriage is nothing more than a calculated ruse in order to rake in campaign donations at a time when his re-election is on the line.

Bullshit, he's supported same sex marriage since the beginning.

 

[smile72]

Obama's "support" of gay marriage is nothing more than a calculated ruse in order to rake in campaign donations at a time when his re-election is on the line.

Bullshit, he's supported same sex marriage since the beginning.

Not really, during his 2008 campaign he was against same sex marriage.

 

[Deleted member 256505]

Obama's "support" of gay marriage is nothing more than a calculated ruse in order to rake in campaign donations at a time when his re-election is on the line.

No, I believe he supports it, when he ran for the Illinois Senate he supported it, that was in 1996 I think, but this is as good, as saying I support civil unions, it's garbage.

It's not a question of whether actually supports it or not; on that score I couldn't care less. What I wanted to point out is that his "support" was a display of opportunism (in the case of how many donations he's gotten since), not a genuine appeal for civil rights. An imperialist president who advocates indefinite detention and assassination of US citizens cannot be taken seriously as a beacon for any kind of democratic reform.

Edit: Initial statement was sloppy, had to clarify.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

Obama's "support" of gay marriage is nothing more than a calculated ruse in order to rake in campaign donations at a time when his re-election is on the line.

You see why political people usually keep their mouths shut?

Anyways, it's good he supports it. Everybody deserves love no matter of gender (species maybe an issue, but that's for another day :3). Maybe this will slowly help America move forward into the new world. I'm sorry to the Americans I upset, but you have to admit, America has a lot of problems still.

 

[freaksloan]

Its nothing new, he has been for it all the time. He has just been a coward to stand up for what he believes in. He had no choice now, because the idiot VP ran off at the mouth.

Obama has been on record as far back as 1996 as being for same sex marriage.

 

[Deleted member 256505]

Its nothing new, he has been for it all the time. He has just been a coward to stand up for what he believes in. He had no choice now, because the idiot VP ran off at the mouth.

Obama has been on record as far back as 1996 as being for same sex marriage.

His support for gay marriage during his presidency has been wishy-washy at best. As smile72 said, he openly came out against it by using the typical conservative trope of defining marriage as between a man and a woman. He has since used his personal "evolution" on the question to garner those supporters who became disillusioned with his continuation of the policies of his predecessor. Obama is cynically pandering to identity politics in order to disguise the anti-democratic policies that he himself has supported all along.

Oh well, I'm done with this. I gotta get to bed.

 

[The Catboy]

America has a lot of problems still.

We're a country that clams to have separation of church and state, but that's clearly a lie if we are still having a debate on gay marriage in the year 2012.
We claim to be free, but have a long history of oppression.
Congress is a joke.

Spoiler: this

America needs some real help. What our country really needs is a clear cut division between church and state. Religion should not play any role in government, once that happens America can finally move forward instead of being held back like we are now.

 

[KingVamp]

America has a lot of problems still.

Like everyone else in the world?

 

[ShadowSoldier]

America has a lot of problems still.

Like everyone else in the whole?

Except not everyone else in the world puts on a show that makes it seem like it's the greatest place ever. Like Catboy said, they're still behind a lot of countries in terms of moving forward for humanity basically.

 

[smile72]

America has a lot of problems still.

Like everyone else in the whole?

Our politicians always say how great we are,yet we lack universal healthcare, we actually discuss same sex marriage (instead of it already being legal) people always cite 5000-6000 years of history (if you know what I mean) to deny same sex marriage.

 

[Gahars]

Calculated political move or not, the fact that he is the first president in office to come out and support gay marriage is a pretty significant step forward. Hopefully this will lead to more action by his administration should he receive another term.

 

[DiscostewSM]

I feel that coming out with this statement may do more harm than good with his re-election. He had said before that he was against it, and to now say he supports it could identify him among voters as a flip-flop.

 

[smile72]

I feel that coming out with this statement may do more harm than good with his re-election. He had said before that he was against it, and to now say he supports it could identify him among voters as a flip-flop.

Not more damage than Mitt Romney has already done with his flip flops http://issues2000.org/Mitt_Romney.htm

 

[Gahars]

I feel that coming out with this statement may do more harm than good with his re-election. He had said before that he was against it, and to now say he supports it could identify him among voters as a flip-flop.

I'm guessing that's why he placed a lot of emphasis on the "evolving" part of the statement. It would make sense to portray his new conclusion as the result of a long and thought out process, rather than a sudden shift.

To be entirely fair, Mitt Romney has had a record of "flip flopping" on the issue, too. If the GOP tries to paint Obama as a flip flopper, his campaign could just respond by citing those; it would probably come out as a stalemate.