GOP proves they don't actually care about states rights [against interstate travel for abortion]

[Deleted member 586536]

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow...-protect-interstate-abortion-travel-rcna38694
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...08b970599b64a9#block-62d061638f08b970599b64a9
If people are supposed to just, get up go to another state to get an abortion (to follow the rules of that state instead)
As some Republicans here have said.
It should be pretty obivous that ensuring people have that right might be pretty important to protec-

And just in, they shot the bill down. Wow. It's almost like they care more about controlling peoples bodies, and not actual states rights.
Oh, should I also add that slavery was a "States rights" issue.

"
with one senator saying the proposal would encourage “abortion tourism” and help “fly-in abortionists.”
"
Hypocritical Republicans. " just go to another state"
when people do that
"no don't do that it'll create abortion tourism"
So in an ideal Gop world.
We got 10 year olds getting pregent. Mothers carrying their dead fetuses for 2 weeks. We got conctraceptives being banned. Gay marrige being banned. Doing anythimg other than straight sex being banned.
Getting a felony for getting an abortion, and can't cross state lines for one.
yeah something tells me the ideal world for GOP is straight up facism.

 

[SyphenFreht]

Well that's Christian values for you as well. They can whine all they want about religion having nothing to do with it, when in fact Christianity has had one large looming presence over American politics since Day 1. Both government and religion were created as machinations for population control; anything that defies that isn't based in reality.

 

[N7Kopper]

Well that's Christian values for you as well. They can whine all they want about religion having nothing to do with it, when in fact Christianity has had one large looming presence over American politics since Day 1. Both government and religion were created as machinations for population control; anything that defies that isn't based in reality.

Population control isn't necessarily a bad thing. Would an empire wage war on slavery on a whim, or at the behest of an omnirighteous creator god?

But yeah, the "states rights" thing on babykilling is stupid. Either it's federally recognised as murder, or it's a Constitutionally protected religious rite of Satanists. There is no in-between. Such chicanery is why Britain was a formally Christian country - specifically to prevent such constitutional crowbarring. And given that Thomas Jefferson wrote a rather heretical Bible stripping Jesus of divinity, maybe it was deliberate on some of their parts...

 

[Deleted member 586536]

Population control isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Yes it is because it's a lazy excuse not to do better with handling resources. There's a metric fuck ton of stuff wasted everyday, and not by the average citizen, but rather CEO's and higher ups/management. Take bleaching food instead of donating it. Or creating supplies, and then instead of holding onto them for future use, it's gets burned or destroyed at the direction of management. Despite the fact it doesn't have a shelf life and can last relatively indefinitely.


Hell even the military does this. While this is anecdotal, (Something I avoid doing) talk to enough people and you can confirm what I'm saying (the base I'm talking about is somewhere southwards. I'd rather not discuss the exact details mostly just to keep my sources safe incase it's a sensitive subject)
At one of the bases, they were going to outright burn a perfectly good guitar, ipad gen 5, among other expensive things that can still be used. (the ipad was unused. I know since I got it. It was in it's box and everything. The protective film put on the ipad was there as well. It wasn't even touched once. Stuck in a warehouse to eventually be destroyed)

When the military buys anything or any gear, or recreational things, and the operation gets canceled or finished, or they have no longer a use for it. They default to incinerating it. It's insanely wasteful and makes my blood boil, because we can do better by miles.

Would an empire wage war on slavery on a whim, or at the behest of an omnirighteous creator god?

Empires, countries are not people and not always serve people. They contain them, but it doesn't mean they have their interest.
People come first, period the end.

 

[Deleted member 559230]

So less babies are murdered. Good.

 

[chrisrlink]

Population control isn't necessarily a bad thing. Would an empire wage war on slavery on a whim, or at the behest of an omnirighteous creator god?

But yeah, the "states rights" thing on babykilling is stupid. Either it's federally recognised as murder, or it's a Constitutionally protected religious rite of Satanists. There is no in-between. Such chicanery is why Britain was a formally Christian country - specifically to prevent such constitutional crowbarring. And given that Thomas Jefferson wrote a rather heretical Bible stripping Jesus of divinity, maybe it was deliberate on some of their parts...

have you ever watched the first 6 star wars now i feel george lucas was warning us of things to come honestly Palpatine=Trump the empire being his vision of the USA death star is our stock pile of nukes need i go on? striking similarities between SW and the last presidency

 

[CommanderCool]

So less babies are murdered. Good.

don't pretend you care about human life when as soon as they come out of the womb, you give no fucks.

hypocrite.

 

[Deleted member 559230]

don't pretend you care about human life when as soon as they come out of the womb, you give no fucks.

hypocrite.

I care about life, it's just not my job to raise other peoples kids. People should be responsible and take care of the life they create and that means from conception to adulthood. Drop the love for socialism and wake up.

 

[CommanderCool]

I care about life, it's just not my job to raise other peoples kids. People should be responsible and take care of the life they create and that means from conception to adulthood. Drop the love for socialism and wake up.

typical rightoid "if it isn't me then it's those damn leftist" arguments.

you fascists never account for the sexual assaults your odious kind cause which lead to said incidents where it is required, nor create exceptions for medical purposes; your blanket despising of the concept of life itself as soon as it leaves the womb is evident through action. so no, you don't care about life let alone ethics, and stop pretending that you do.

my political alignment is simple: hate leftists for being too weak to hold rightoids accountable and initiate ethical actions of retribution, hate centrists for being fence-sitting babies who equate the left to the right and all ethics thereof, and hate rightoids for being fascist wannabe fucktards pretending they aren't when they are. let's remember that before throwing buzzwords like "socialist" around that tribalism is a construct, not a necessity.

 

[VirgilMobile]

typical rightoid "if it isn't me then it's those damn leftist" arguments.

you fascists never account for the sexual assaults your odious kind cause which lead to said incidents where it is required, nor create exceptions for medical purposes; your blanket despising of the concept of life itself as soon as it leaves the womb is evident through action. so no, you don't care about life let alone ethics, and stop pretending that you do.

my political alignment is simple: hate leftists for being too weak to hold rightoids accountable and initiate ethical actions of retribution, hate centrists for being fence-sitting babies who equate the left to the right and all ethics thereof, and hate rightoids for being fascist wannabe fucktards pretending they aren't when they are. let's remember that before throwing buzzwords like "socialist" around that tribalism is a construct, not a necessity.

You just lost your crediblity the moment you said ''fascist''

 

[Deleted member 586536]

ou just lost your crediblity the moment you said ''fascist''

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
"make american great again"
"Make your country proud"
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
overturning abortion, disdain for trans and gay people.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
right now it's trans, gay, and Jewish people. Whenever right wingers talk "globalism" it's a dog whistle for Jews.
4.
Supremacy of the Military
"Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized."
United states practically always checks this box off.
5.
Rampant Sexism
"The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy."
Another free tickbox.

6.
Obsession with National Security
Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
"The illegals are out to kill your children."

7. Religion and Government are Intertwined
hmm, wasn't there a certain president who did a photo op? And that the majority of that party call out a certain godly figure. That jesus would save them or something like that?
8.Corporate Power is Protected
that's a dingding ding
9.Labor Power is Suppressed
Oh we have a winner.
10.Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
let's see here
https://www.npr.org/2023/01/22/1150259944/florida-rejects-ap-class-african-american-studies
Reminder that this dude said "monkeying it up" towards his black opponent.

Oh and tracking professors activities. Because that's normal.
Federally speaking.
Cutting funding for education. Saying that education is left leaning, so you need to make more cuts to said education funding. Saying collage is fake and is only for credits, when no it does provide useful shit, the issue is corpertiziation of collages. And that saying everything is CRT, when it isn't.

11.Obsession with Crime and Punishment

Do I have to explain this one? Law and order party?

12.Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
until it's not law and order for thee.



That's 12 out of the 14 characteristics of facism that practically unrefutably match for the republican party right now.

We can safely say we're dealing with facists. The leaders, the ones pulling the strings are facists, not every person following them is. But it's becoming increasingly unlikely that your not talking to one, as more and more people leave the republican party if they haven't already. Since they don't want to identify with such an extreme party.

 

[VirgilMobile]

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
"make american great again"
"Make your country proud"

Both sided.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
overturning abortion, disdain for trans and gay people.

Arresting non-masked people like they were criminals who wants to kill people.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
right now it's trans, gay, and Jewish people. Whenever right wingers talk "globalism" it's a dog whistle for Jews.

Or white supremacists, facists, nazis, anti-vaxxers, conspiracies theorists and most people who uses the Globalism term targets Soros, for funding riots and democrats anti-jews barely hide themselves.

4.
Supremacy of the Military
"Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized."
United states practically always checks this box off.

Another reason why USA should ditch the Abrahamic duo who can't even fight their own wars.

5.
Rampant Sexism
"The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy."
Another free tickbox.

Has nothing to do with sexism.

6.
Obsession with National Security
Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
"The illegals are out to kill your children."

''The anti-vaxxers are terrorists.''

7. Religion and Government are Intertwined
hmm, wasn't there a certain president who did a photo op? And that the majority of that party call out a certain godly figure. That jesus would save them or something like that?

8.Corporate Power is Protected
that's a dingding ding
9.Labor Power is Suppressed
Oh we have a winner.

You have to ditch Marx it's obviously messing you up.

11.Obsession with Crime and Punishment

Do I have to explain this one? Law and order party?

Both sided.

12.Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
until it's not law and order for thee.



That's 12 out of the 14 characteristics of facism that practically unrefutably match for the republican party right now.

We can safely say we're dealing with facists. The leaders, the ones pulling the strings are facists, not every person following them is. But it's becoming increasingly unlikely that your not talking to one, as more and more people leave the republican party if they haven't already. Since they don't want to identify with such an extreme party.

Both sided.
You have no issues about facism, your only complain is about the Republicans outlawing sex change and abortion. Otherwise you denonounce the other side for sharing the same issues and not pushing you're view of point to describe fachism or just not using it as an argument against your opponents.

 

[CommanderCool]

You basically described USA's policies and it applies to both sides.

both sides centrism lol

 

[VirgilMobile]

both sides centrism lol

It's pathetic to call your opponent a fascist when your ideology check most cases of it.

 

[CommanderCool]

It's pathetic to call your opponent a fascist when your ideology check most cases of it.

bold of you to assume i care about the boring social construct of the political spectrum and not live above it.

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You just lost your crediblity the moment you said ''fascist''

oh fuck i didnt even see this.

man you're so fucking stupid that you assumed i was a leftist despite saying otherwise blatantly

holy fucking shit lmao

 

[VirgilMobile]

bold of you to assume i care about the boring social construct of the political spectrum and not live above it.

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oh fuck i didnt even see this.

The way you talk confirms it.

man you're so fucking stupid that you assumed i was a leftist despite saying otherwise blatantly

holy fucking shit lmao

Talk about being a clown :

my political alignment is simple: hate leftists for being too weak to hold rightoids accountable and initiate ethical actions of retribution,

You don't hate leftists for their ideology you hate them because they're too ''weak'' to apply it and to punish their opponents.

 

[Xzi]

Of course they don't care about states rights, they care about inflicting authoritarianism and their own twisted sense of morality on the masses. Never stopping to consider for a moment that they might be working against their own self-interest, or that their beliefs might've been instilled in them solely by corporate and military propaganda. Gotta produce enough warm bodies for the factory floors and front lines of war, after all. Gotta keep competition for jobs high, wages low, and your capitalist overlords happy.

 

[CommanderCool]

The way you talk confirms it.

Talk about being a clown :

You don't hate leftists for their ideology you hate them because they're too ''weak'' to apply it and to punish their opponents.

"we stand for equal rights, we stand for equal rights!"

"okay what are you doing about it?"

"literally nothing!"

"gonna impose any policies?"

"hell no!"

"gonna annoy republican fascists to do it?"

"b-but we have to make sure everyone agrees!"


one of the many things included in most democratic nations' set of constitutions and rights is the freedom of association. in this case, i choose to disassociate from the left due to their perceived weakness and lack of strength of character to punish fascists for being fascists.

 

[Xzi]

"we stand for equal rights, we stand for equal rights!"

"okay what are you doing about it?"

"literally nothing!"

"gonna impose any policies?"

"hell no!"

"gonna annoy republican fascists to do it?"

"b-but we have to make sure everyone agrees!"


one of the many things included in most democratic nations' set of constitutions and rights is the freedom of association. in this case, i choose to disassociate from the left due to their perceived weakness and lack of strength of character to punish fascists for being fascists.

Just remember that Democrats are not leftists by and large, it's a favor to Republicans when you refer to them as such because it shifts the Overton window right. They're corporate centrists at best, which is why their inaction is often by design. Out of thousands of elected officials in the federal government, there are maybe two or three actual leftists that openly identify as such.

 

[Deleted member 559230]

Just because I don't want to take care of other peoples kids doesn't mean I don't care about children. It's the job of the people who create life to take care of it and the left supports these deadbeats who rather not take responsibility for what they created.

LOL ... Fascism was created by the left. You have no clue. Educate yourself.

https://www.prageru.com/video/is-fascism-right-or-left