What's so great about Hoenn? Its predecessors surpass it by far. It had potential but the events sucked and the whole Team Magma and Team Aqua thing was annoying. It could have been left out. Bring back Team rocket.
First off, they would be in no way obligated to remake the first gen again. That doesn't fit into the pattern they have going as far as remakes are concerned.
First gen
Second gen
Third gen -> Remade first gen
Fourth gen -> Remade second gen
Fifth gen (on the same console as four previous games ) -> Time to remake the third gen
This pattern will likely continue until they hit the point that a remake won't change how the game looks and the amount of content substantially.
Because if Kyogre/Groudon/Rayquaza and Latias/Latios weren't in HG/SS, there would have been no way of obtaining those five in Gen IV.HGSS themselves hinted on this. Why would Groudon, Kyogre, Rayquaza and Latias/Latios be catchable anyway. Gamefreak never does something like that just for he hell of it.
I apply a +1 to this post.The 16 badges of GSC and the return to Kanto was a poor move to me. The Kanto region felt so stripped down that they might as well have put the eight gyms side by side with Red sitting next to the eighth. It was nothing but filler if you didn't feel the actual game was long enough. I can't say I was able to really appreciate that portion. In fact, every time I've played, I've never completed the Kanto portion, as it is just so damn boring compared to core Johto portion.
I consider the second gen the experimental stage. Yeah, it was the best in terms of new content. Pearl/Diamond and Black/White are even a step down when comparing core aspects like the actual Pokemon. It was early, and there was room for creativity. Once you have two generations of the fuckers, I'm sure it is a bit more difficult to come up with new stuff continously, yet the fans will demand it endlessly.
The step down to 8 badges was a move of "we have enough content here, lets not push the patience of the players." I liked a lot of the Pokemon. I liked them a lot more than I like anything that has come since. The secret bases were more of a "we hope you have friends that like Pokemon deal." I'm sure they worked out great in Japan, but had limited success elsewhere. I will argue that the overworld was massive (underwater caverns and shit, big land masses, lots of ocean). Comparing the map in GSC to the map in RSE is like comparing the size of Australia to the size of the whole of Asia. Doesn't compare by much. The earlier maps were generally just elaborate loops due to the limitations of the hardware, while later maps send you on a one way road with a few shortcuts here or there to help you out, but going backwards isn't easy without the Fly ability.
Pokemon fans like dem remakes.
It's kinda silly to say that Pokemon fans will "lose patience" pursuing 16 badges instead of the normal 8 when a lot of them have no issue mindlessly grinding their Pokemon to lvl 100 (with the right EVs and that bullshit) until their brains turn to sludge. Also, Kanto in GSC seemed fine. Not as filled as Johto, for sure, but it still had your trainers, new Pokemon, side quests, gym leaders, whatever. I played that game through and through as a kid and I never lost patience with it.
And I really see know difference in the size of the maps. If anything I don't want to spend a lot of time wading through a long and boring stretch of wilderness. I want to get to the next area, heal up, train up, and spank a gym leader, not go through annoying tall grass mazes and get buttfucked by trainers when my Pokemon are limping to safety. That's what makes me lose patience, actually.
They wouldn't remake Emerald.I would KILL for a Ruby and Sapphire remake, as well as Emerald
If they aren't working on it right now, then I can guarantee we probably won't see a R/S remake this generation.I wouldn't be surprised if they were already working on it.
because it has already been remade?First off, they would be in no way obligated to remake the first gen again. That doesn't fit into the pattern they have going as far as remakes are concerned.
First gen
Second gen
Third gen -> Remade first gen
Fourth gen -> Remade second gen
Fifth gen (on the same console as four previous games ) -> Time to remake the third gen
This pattern will likely continue until they hit the point that a remake won't change how the game looks and the amount of content substantially.
Yes, but no. This would be the first time where a generation to be remade also already contains a remade generation. I'm not saying that they should remake the first generation again by any means. What I am saying is that the remake of the first generation is just as far behind mechanically as the 3rd generation. So my point is, if the 3rd generation is to be remade than why shouldn't the first generation be remade again as well?
First off, they would be in no way obligated to remake the first gen again. That doesn't fit into the pattern they have going as far as remakes are concerned.
First gen
Second gen
Third gen -> Remade first gen
Fourth gen -> Remade second gen
Fifth gen (on the same console as four previous games ) -> Time to remake the third gen
This pattern will likely continue until they hit the point that a remake won't change how the game looks and the amount of content substantially.
Yes, but no. This would be the first time where a generation to be remade also already contains a remade generation. I'm not saying that they should remake the first generation again by any means. What I am saying is that the remake of the first generation is just as far behind mechanically as the 3rd generation. So my point is, if the 3rd generation is to be remade than why shouldn't the first generation be remade again as well? Its just as far behind mechanically as it, so if the logical step is to remake the 3rd gen to bring it up to a more current model and allow the 4th and 5th gens to interact with it for trading, then logically the 1st generation would need to be remade again as well. And I need to stress I don't think that should happen, a remake of a remake would be a terrible thing, and also, the 1st gen remakes and the 3rd gen though somewhat behind mechanically and graphically, aren't by all that much.
A pokemon for the 3DS? I would love that, just so long as its new. And really I did hate the 3rd gen, it actually turned me off of pokemon for a few years because of how shitty those games were to me. The pokemon were awful, the story sucked, and the fact that it reverted back to 8 badges was a major fail in my opinion. i remember the first time I played gold and silver, and how amazed I was by the fact that I could go back to where I had been before and start a second journey on the same game, there hasn't been an ending after the elite 4 since the second gen thats been as rewarding as that game.
no he's saying that ruby/sapphire/emerald was at the same time as firered/leafgreen.Are you saying that Emerald is a remake? Then I suppose HeartGold and SoulSIlver suck hard as well because there's already a Crystal. FireRed, LeafGreen as well because Yellow is a remake.First off, they would be in no way obligated to remake the first gen again. That doesn't fit into the pattern they have going as far as remakes are concerned.
First gen
Second gen
Third gen -> Remade first gen
Fourth gen -> Remade second gen
Fifth gen (on the same console as four previous games ) -> Time to remake the third gen
This pattern will likely continue until they hit the point that a remake won't change how the game looks and the amount of content substantially.
Yes, but no. This would be the first time where a generation to be remade also already contains a remade generation. I'm not saying that they should remake the first generation again by any means. What I am saying is that the remake of the first generation is just as far behind mechanically as the 3rd generation. So my point is, if the 3rd generation is to be remade than why shouldn't the first generation be remade again as well? Its just as far behind mechanically as it, so if the logical step is to remake the 3rd gen to bring it up to a more current model and allow the 4th and 5th gens to interact with it for trading, then logically the 1st generation would need to be remade again as well. And I need to stress I don't think that should happen, a remake of a remake would be a terrible thing, and also, the 1st gen remakes and the 3rd gen though somewhat behind mechanically and graphically, aren't by all that much.
A pokemon for the 3DS? I would love that, just so long as its new. And really I did hate the 3rd gen, it actually turned me off of pokemon for a few years because of how shitty those games were to me. The pokemon were awful, the story sucked, and the fact that it reverted back to 8 badges was a major fail in my opinion. i remember the first time I played gold and silver, and how amazed I was by the fact that I could go back to where I had been before and start a second journey on the same game, there hasn't been an ending after the elite 4 since the second gen thats been as rewarding as that game.
As for the two region issue and 16 badges, I'm fine with it. But the way you're saying it is like every single game MUST have 16 badges and MUST revisit an older region. I enjoy Hoenn the way it is. It first introduced trainers using potions when their pokemon's HP is low (although some older gens also heal, they even heal when their HP is full). It was the first ever game that catching a main legendary was such a huge event (in G/S it's just the radio tower and silver/rainbow wing). It was the first game which made me so into pokemon.
Thats a good point, but I don't think thats neccesary as they already made a remake for the first gen.no he's saying that ruby/sapphire/emerald was at the same time as firered/leafgreen.
and if ruby/sapphire should be remade, fr/lg should be too.
i don't think it's a good point, 1st gen already had it's time. and ruby/sapphire i think is for nostalgia purposes mixed/updated with current gen.Thats a good point, but I don't think thats neccesary as they already made a remake for the first gen.no he's saying that ruby/sapphire/emerald was at the same time as firered/leafgreen.
and if ruby/sapphire should be remade, fr/lg should be too.
This.My gosh. I'll fly if it were true.
RS were the first pokemon games I actually completed.
we all know third(or whatever you call it) games don't get remakes.... ;O; emerald was the first pokemon game i played.Also I want a remake of Yellow.
First Pokemon game I ever got, hell it was the first game I ever got
this, emerald was my 1st 800 hrs in it, then got fire red, awesome games for my 1st handheld(my dad hated them so i could only get one a bit late)This.My gosh. I'll fly if it were true.
RS were the first pokemon games I actually completed.
I played RSE as a kid. Sapphire was the first Pokemon game I ever bought, (I never played Gen I or II until after). Sapphire got me into Pokemon, and then I bought Ruby, just for Team Magma and Groudon, then Emerald when it came out. Collectively, I spent over 500 hours on the main Gen II, plus 200 on FR/LG. I loved Gen III. I want a remake of it. Does that make me a criminal? Because the way a few of you are talking it sounds like it does
I know right?I hope if they re-make it they make the Gyms and E4 a bit harder then they were. R/S/E were the only Pokemon Games I was able to breeze through first try, especially Emerald I mean seriously don't give a Level 70 Rayquazza to players BEFORE the Elite 4.
I knoooooooow, which really sucks ;O;we all know third(or whatever you call it) games don't get remakes.... ;O; emerald was the first pokemon game i played.Also I want a remake of Yellow.
First Pokemon game I ever got, hell it was the first game I ever got