Can someone find a way to create cia installer for 11.0 hbl no downgrades?

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  1. bisharpofdeath
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    So, I got a couple of eshop download cias, and I need someone to make a cia installer for 11.0 to please the hbl users. So if someone could bypass kernel exploits, and maybe modify nasa to work without kernel exploits, that would be great! We need help from the hbl dev community to make installation possible on 11.0. Please, just somebody needs to find a bypass to install cias and we need your help! The community needs to bring itself together to do this, so are you homebrew devs ready?
     
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    CIA Installers require the signature checks to check if the CIA is signed or not to be patched, allowing for un-signed CIAs to be installed
    To patch sigchecks, we need an emuNAND
    To use an emuNAND, we need an arm9 exploit
    The only currently known arm9 exploits are on 9.2

    So basically you need to downgrade to be able to install unsigned CIAs
     
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    It is possible to install CIAs to a non-CFW system. They have to have a legit signature or be the pre-installed version.

    These are known as Legit-CIA's and Legit CIA can only be created from pre-installed CIA's

    An example would be a Pre-Installed Pokemon X on a brand new 3DS. Turn that into a CIA and install it onto a non-CFW system and it will show up as normal since to the 3DS it has a valid signature.

    Games that never had a preinstalled version or homebrew CIA need CFW
     
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    No we are not ready. This is literally

    EDIT; Ok, if we were to sign every .cia it would sorta be, yet we would still need a Kexploit
     
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    Now that I think about it, how DOES a CIA get signed anyway?

    Does it use the 3DS' secret keys to sign the CIA once it's pre-installed?
     
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    Ninty themselves modify a .cia to have legal keys on every system, and throw them onto a system pre-installed
    Then why did we wait 'til Memchunkhax2 to install the legits?
     
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    ah ok thanks

    I wonder if we'll ever find a way to sign CIAs, although I highly doubt it'll ever be possible :/
     
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    Maybe. Who knows? (You'd only be able to install legit cias tho)
     
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    No, we can't, not on 11.0. Even "legit" CIA installation requires an arm11 kernel exploit.

    Nintendo has a key, that key is used to sign all "legit" pre-installed games, every console ships with that key being marked as valid.

    If we brute force it, then maybe a few billion years after the solar system burns out, sure
     
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    Everything involving CIA, including homebrew and pirated games, will require a CFW to work. There is no way around this and no way to make it work on OFW.
    Currently there are only two methods to downgrade with 11: DSi and hard mod
    https://github.com/Plailect/Guide/wiki/Firmware-Downgrade
    As there is no kernel exploit for 11 nor any other way to downgrade to an exploitable system. If you want to go down the hard mod path, here's a list of people to hit up
    http://gbatemp.net/threads/list-of-hardmod-installers-by-region.414224/
     
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    You also forgot to add not to ask if someone else can find, or do or create things, simply enough if you can't do it, just suggest it and accept any rejected or acceptable answers. When and if it can or will be done, it will be noted and made possible. Pressuring people to do things cause you either can't or don't know how or want to, doesn't change anything or make anyone wanna do it if not presented in a positive manner.
     
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    Currently anything beyond 9.2 can not install unsigned CIAs because you need an arm9 kernel exploit to do that. Past 9.2* you can install legit CIAs (games that came bundled with a console) but that is a very limited list and requires arm11 kernel.
    Edit: anything up to 11.0*

    Actually no you can't install legit CIAs on 11.0 (yet) because you need an arm11 kernel exploit, which we don't have on 11.0.
     
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    my wrong m8 sorry i read it i think i read it somewhere nvm
     
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    Technically, Ninty failed to patch memchunkhax3 again. However, exploiting it would be extremely difficult because of their meddling, not impossible.
    No, you're right. Technically.
     
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    That doesn't change that we need access to an Arm11 Kexploit
     
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    Again. We technically have an arm11 kexploit. Though I won't argue with you that we need access to it ;)
    Also,
    I... just... what do I say to this?
    It's not that simple. We can't just "bypass kernel exploits". We need access to the kernel to get to the services that handle CIA installation, which only the kernel has. Also, like, WTAF? What... I... just don't even. I hope this isn't too rude, mods, but I feel as though this is the occasion I've been waiting for to use this::gun:
     
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