What bothers you about school?
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critical thinking is a catch-all phrase that is made up of loads of other concepts, so the type of thinking you have in mind is probably in there. though i don't blame you for thinking that way, i saw a study that showed most college professors know it's important...but don't know what it meant lol. hard to incoporate into your curriculum when you aren't sure what it is, right?
On a related note, computational thinking is rising in popularity, and what i'm doing a research paper on right now. that has more of a focus on processing. I'm going to try and do my dissertation on skepticism.
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It was fun at that moment indeed.
But now... it's pathetic ;/
It's a nice teacher tho.
I honestly hate the administration, they pay next to nothing to teachers and get plenty themselves. They think school is a money maker. And honestly, I've learned most of the stuff schools taut me either:
Multiple times
Outside of school 5 years earlier
Or
In a crappy way (most likely through 50 worksheets) that makes me forget after the tests.
Which brings me to my next point. Standardized testing. Schools have to teach to the test, and limits outside learning because of it. Also, it's been proven testing is actually pretty inaccurate. IIRC there's an Einstein quote about this...
Multiple times
Outside of school 5 years earlier
Or
In a crappy way (most likely through 50 worksheets) that makes me forget after the tests.
Which brings me to my next point. Standardized testing. Schools have to teach to the test, and limits outside learning because of it. Also, it's been proven testing is actually pretty inaccurate. IIRC there's an Einstein quote about this...
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School was pretty dope imo. That said, I want to be quick to point out that I was somewhat popular and found it easy to make friends. Its easy for me to focus on the good rather than the bad.
Probably needing to study for some of my higher level education classes. Some just came to me and made sense. Chemisty was a lot of fun to me even if I wasn't the greatest at it. I needed to study to get some of the harder concepts down. Higher level math didn't really stick with me and I didnt understand how to study for that kinda stuff. But Just about everything else was great. The girls were hot, the bus rides were tons of fun, and I loved being head of the drumline for 3 years unchallenged.
Probably needing to study for some of my higher level education classes. Some just came to me and made sense. Chemisty was a lot of fun to me even if I wasn't the greatest at it. I needed to study to get some of the harder concepts down. Higher level math didn't really stick with me and I didnt understand how to study for that kinda stuff. But Just about everything else was great. The girls were hot, the bus rides were tons of fun, and I loved being head of the drumline for 3 years unchallenged.
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I'm no longer in school and it feels great.
Never got into it, was never a social guy. I had a couple of close friends with whom I still speak to this day. Absolutely hated the social hierarchy, the time I wasted on studying rather than on premarital sex and building social skills, waking up every morning at 7 to go to that miserable place and so on.
Homework is fucking bullshit. I study at a uni now, and ironically it's easier for me (from an academic point of view). I do not care about my grades anymore, and nobody is scolding me because I'm not living up to someones retarded imaginary standards they put on me. I study just enough to get by and get a diploma, not going to waste my youth again this time.
I'm glad it's over.
Never got into it, was never a social guy. I had a couple of close friends with whom I still speak to this day. Absolutely hated the social hierarchy, the time I wasted on studying rather than on premarital sex and building social skills, waking up every morning at 7 to go to that miserable place and so on.
Homework is fucking bullshit. I study at a uni now, and ironically it's easier for me (from an academic point of view). I do not care about my grades anymore, and nobody is scolding me because I'm not living up to someones retarded imaginary standards they put on me. I study just enough to get by and get a diploma, not going to waste my youth again this time.
I'm glad it's over.
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Testing is ironic. It tests your knowledge on what was taught. Not what you know. It's not a guideline on what you need to know either. It's a waste of time. I got a c average just passing tests and I forgot half of what I learned in High school.
School is more a place to hang out rather than learn at least for me. I barely learned anything. Got bad grades. Didn't think I was going to graduate High School. But I barely did.
I learn more on my own free time than I did in school. So there is motivation for me to learn. But school just kills that motivation. It's soooooo boring. I hated it wanted to get out and not want to study at all. If i'm motivated on my own and school kills that then obviously its doing something wrong. They need to cater to different peoples way of learning to be more successful but with classes of over 30 that will not happen.
I learn more on my own free time than I did in school. So there is motivation for me to learn. But school just kills that motivation. It's soooooo boring. I hated it wanted to get out and not want to study at all. If i'm motivated on my own and school kills that then obviously its doing something wrong. They need to cater to different peoples way of learning to be more successful but with classes of over 30 that will not happen.
For me, it was the anxiety of not knowing what happens after school. Also having to relentlessly study and repeat all the bullshit that you never use. I don't remember a thing I was taught in school other than the things I was genuinely interested in.
I always despised school. High school was fun tho, cause at least you get to choose what to do, and meet like-minded people. Oh, and no homework. I didn't study a day at home. My grades reflect my actual knowledge and passions.
I spent most of my free time during high school teaching myself web dev and turned that into my career. Now life is cool. People who say school was better than working are out of their mind.
I always despised school. High school was fun tho, cause at least you get to choose what to do, and meet like-minded people. Oh, and no homework. I didn't study a day at home. My grades reflect my actual knowledge and passions.
I spent most of my free time during high school teaching myself web dev and turned that into my career. Now life is cool. People who say school was better than working are out of their mind.
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@Shadowfied - I think are mostly talking about hanging out with their friends everyday and not having to worry about things like bills and the other responsibilities that come from being an adult.
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I absolutely hated school.
I was never able to fit with people, and despite my ability to learn very quickly, I failed the entire graduation due to bullshit that irked me and made me skip school, until I left for good.
I have learned more on my own, compared to what they taught us before.
Another point is that there was that one teacher always on my case, making assumptions over me, spreading rumours, making people agaisnt me, and pretending to know better than anyone.
This one made me leave school for good, around 6 years ago.
I was never able to fit with people, and despite my ability to learn very quickly, I failed the entire graduation due to bullshit that irked me and made me skip school, until I left for good.
I have learned more on my own, compared to what they taught us before.
Another point is that there was that one teacher always on my case, making assumptions over me, spreading rumours, making people agaisnt me, and pretending to know better than anyone.
This one made me leave school for good, around 6 years ago.
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After freshman year, I noticed something... I could skip literally half my classes and still graduate at the bare minimum. So, that's what I did. Especially during my senior year. A bad heartbreak made me even more uncaring.
[Public] school has always been synonymous with torture for me. It is basically a concentration camp designed to conform active and creative children; and indoctrinate them into becoming working class robots. I think I would be happier today if I worked in a farm as a kid.
I just feel resentful for wasting my youth. I have more memories of sleeping in my classes than participating in them. I always liked the objectivity of math though; but those subjective classes, and getting graded on your interpretations... not cool.
HATED standardized testing. Its time limit always made me uncomfortable. Test in general though - I only study the day before, so naturally it all goes into short-term memory. Very useless, but bragging about beating your friends' scores is a plus.
I just feel resentful for wasting my youth. I have more memories of sleeping in my classes than participating in them. I always liked the objectivity of math though; but those subjective classes, and getting graded on your interpretations... not cool.
HATED standardized testing. Its time limit always made me uncomfortable. Test in general though - I only study the day before, so naturally it all goes into short-term memory. Very useless, but bragging about beating your friends' scores is a plus.
You spend years learning about stuff you'll forget. Its all a waste. Its like ever since we went from a physical strength based economy to a knowledge base economy, from being farmers to being workers, then all of a sudden they said we need school but they don't even know how to go about it. Because you don't really know what you want to do till your an adult. So its like we will give generic courses that are boring as hell, just to give something, some school because hey education is important, till they reach the age of choice. What is someone going to do with logarithmic mathematics working as a ditch digger? They are killing people ability to want to learn.
They should do what the best aviation school in America does. 97% comes to school hardly ditchers, and has a 90% graduation rate. Countries around the world comes to this school to learn what they are doing.
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What I didn't like in school :
- Bullying
- You are bad if you are different
school forces everybody to fit into the same mold. You have to learn the same thing, and teachers expect all student to understand and learn at the same pace, that you like what they teach you and if you don't it's your fault not theirs.
If you need time to assimilate something, you are left alone and they don't care about you anymore. You are the ugly duck of the classroom.
funny thing is now I like learning new things, and I love things I didn't back in the school years. I feel like things are not taught correctly, in the proper time or age, and not in an interesting way.
Like most people said in this thread : why the hell would you need to learn something you will never use later? that's only half the problem. I think they SHOULD tell you what it could be used for, to let you know if you'll ever need it. but no, they all teach without telling you why.
I would have loved concrete example of the use of sin/cos in Math. For example, writing a clock program ? even not a program but explain HOW these function could be used, instead of just randomly telling you to use your calculator and don't bother understanding what the result corresponded to.
Physical example and explanation would have been great.
Not forcing and noting people on your capacity to remember something with no purpose.
I don't know how schools are now, nor how different they are around the world.
that's just things I remember from my own experience.
- Bullying
- You are bad if you are different
school forces everybody to fit into the same mold. You have to learn the same thing, and teachers expect all student to understand and learn at the same pace, that you like what they teach you and if you don't it's your fault not theirs.
If you need time to assimilate something, you are left alone and they don't care about you anymore. You are the ugly duck of the classroom.
funny thing is now I like learning new things, and I love things I didn't back in the school years. I feel like things are not taught correctly, in the proper time or age, and not in an interesting way.
Like most people said in this thread : why the hell would you need to learn something you will never use later? that's only half the problem. I think they SHOULD tell you what it could be used for, to let you know if you'll ever need it. but no, they all teach without telling you why.
I would have loved concrete example of the use of sin/cos in Math. For example, writing a clock program ? even not a program but explain HOW these function could be used, instead of just randomly telling you to use your calculator and don't bother understanding what the result corresponded to.
Physical example and explanation would have been great.
Not forcing and noting people on your capacity to remember something with no purpose.
I don't know how schools are now, nor how different they are around the world.
that's just things I remember from my own experience.
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