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[Xzi]

So you are a communist deepshit? Ok, I had forgotten your kind still existed, I mean, the real believers you know. One thing I said is simple though, I had the info in like february of this year 2020 that communists and organizers of October 2019 Chile destruction, where given "lectures" in the USA about "how to" do all this.

You see, here is the deal, you would have to investigate, and you would see my words are simply true, what happened in my country is EXACTLY what happened in the US in every possible way. And I knew it was going to happen! You don't have to believe me, I understand that, but I know is true, because like I said, I had the info at the begining of this year. It is truly scary, I tell you that.

I'm a leftist who believes in some socialist principles. And if anybody is fucking with your country it's the US government or CIA, which are staunchly right-wing at the moment. Continuing to misdirect your anger is the most effective way to make conditions in your country even worse.

 

[nashismo]

I'm a leftist who believes in some socialist principles. And if anybody is fucking with your country it's the US government or CIA, which are staunchly right-wing at the moment. Continuing to misdirect your anger is the most effective way to make conditions in your country even worse.

I try to be straight to the point. Arguing about politics is ridiculous to me, I stick to the facts and what I see. You have any idea of what happened in my country last year? It was hell on earth I tell you that. People burning and looting, screaming almost demonical, is no joke bro. And here is the deal, in my country, there has never been a more "privileged" youth, and they where the ones burning everything.

And they were left wing, sorry, but they were. It is a strange phenomenon. These young people that burned my country, had never had the poverty I suffered, or that my parents suffered, and yet, they did all this. This is all I see, should I have to be the one to explain it? I did not do those things.

 

[Xzi]

And they were left wing, sorry, but they were. It is a strange phenomenon. These young people that burned my country, had never had the poverty I suffered, or that my parents suffered, and yet, they did all this. This is all I see, should I have to be the one to explain it? I did not do those things.

That I'm willing to believe, just not the part about the US influencing it unless our government or CIA stood to benefit in some way.

What makes you come to the conclusion that the generation coming up under you had a lot more wealth and prosperity than you did, though? Did your country suddenly discover some valuable natural resource and become affluent essentially over night? Because otherwise I guarantee that plenty of the younger generation suffered just as much poverty as you did, and some of them probably suffered even more.

 

[nashismo]

That I'm willing to believe, just not the part about the US influencing it unless our government or CIA stood to benefit in some way.

What makes you come to the conclusion that the generation coming up under you had a lot more wealth and prosperity than you did, though? Did your country suddenly discover some valuable natural resource and become affluent essentially over night? Because otherwise I guarantee that plenty of the younger generation suffered just as much poverty as you did, and some of them probably suffered even more.

How can you speak of a country that is almost near the end of the world thinking you know? You commit a terrible "crime" haha that I used to commit, irresponsibly so, when I was in college. That is ASSUMING anything.

Do not assume anything, learn, investigate, and see for yourself, assuming leads to failing. I remember I used to "assume" the teacher would not make a mid term test, because he just had made one the prior class, I skipped a class, and then "assumed" the teacher wasn't such a SOTB to make another, but he did. I could name dozens of assumptions that I have made, and 80% or so of those... were wrong.

I know for a fact, this generation of young people in my country are wealthier. One single evidence I could use, is the fat and obese people precentage. Did you know we are second only after americans in obese people levels?

I was born in 81, do you want me to show you were I lived? Do you want me to show you how thin we ALL where back then? Do you know how many Pizza Huts where back then in my country? Or Kentucky fried chickens? Or Mcdonalds? I tell how much, ZERO.

We ate what we could, and I was "middle class", the poor were doing MUCH worse. Now all I see is obese fat asses, eating fry chicken and burgers, that would only be a DREAM to eat when I was a kid.

Do you want me to tell you more? I could write for days.

 

[Xzi]

How can you speak of a country that is almost near the end of the world thinking you know?

Err...I wasn't. I was just asking questions.

I know for a fact, this generation of young people in my country are wealthier. One single evidence I could use, is the fat and obese people precentage. Did you know we are second only after americans in obese people levels?

I was born in 81, do you want me to show you were I lived? Do you want me to show you how thin we ALL where back then? Do you know how many Pizza where back then in my country? Or Kentucky fried chickens? Or Mcdonalds? I tell how much, ZERO.

We ate what we could, and I was "middle class", the poor were doing MUCH worse. Now all I see is obese fat asses, eating fry chicken and burgers, that would only be a DREAM to eat when I was a kid.

See, this is interesting because now I'm not sure if you really believe things were going well before young people decided to revolt. It sounds like Chile was taking a whole lot of influence from the US, and that being the case, you should be aware that obesity is often a sign of poverty here. In some cases, yes, people are eating more than the decades previous, but in other cases it's simply an indicator of poor diets comprised of mostly fats and sugars. Which of course leads to higher rates of diabetes and other diseases.

 

[nashismo]

Err...I wasn't. I was just asking questions.

No, you said: "I guarantee that plenty of the younger generation suffered just as much poverty as you did, and some of them probably suffered even more." That is an assumption of a fact, it is not a question, and incredibly so, you are guaranteeing me of this also hhhahha.

And I do understand the stuff about bad diets and obesity. But you have to understand this, back in my time, there was not money enough for even "bad diets". Also please know that "food" in my country, is not cheap like in the US, which I know from people who have been there, is actually cheaper than here.

All these because we are too far apart of everything. And yes we became the richest country of the region, thanks to the right wing military general, called Pinochet, who fought the communists, he started the "new capitalist age" and had to deal with a country in ruins left by the communists in the 70's.

Then in the 90's, he freely gave the power to the politicians and we had a good 12 years or so, of moderate socialist governments, the country was still growing, then in 2008 or so, everything started falling apart (I blame Piñera and Bachelet, two true globalists at heart).

But you have to understand this, comunism and socialism in south america, is something we are incredible sick of, that's why, like I said, I stick to the things that happen, not arguing about politics. We have endured the communist garbage our entire lives, for you socialist americans is like a game, because you are beginners in this, I guess you have to have the experience of a communist government, then you will know.

Sorry for the long post, I don't like to do that honestly.

 

[duwen]

A hell of a bundle for a very worthy cause.

...ranging from games such as Bioshock Remastered to Hyper Light Drifter, and everything in between...

...but no fighting games, which is a shame. Especially as it's FIGHT for racial justice.

 

[Xzi]

No, you said: "I guarantee that plenty of the younger generation suffered just as much poverty as you did, and some of them probably suffered even more." That is an assumption of a fact, it is not a question, and incredibly so, you are guaranteeing me of this also hhhahha.

You're taking some important context out of the quote, but okay. Guess you'll hear what you want to.

And yes we became the richest country of the region, thanks to the right wing military general, called Pinochet, who fought the communists, he started the "new capitalist age" and had to deal with a country in ruins left by the communists in the 70's.

I've heard the name in passing, but I don't understand: how does a general generate wealth? By invading other parts of South America and taking their resources, or what?

Then in the 90's, he freely gave the power to the politicians and we had a good 12 years or so, of moderate socialist governments, the country was still growing, then in 2008 or so, everything started falling apart (I blame Piñera and Bachelet, two true globalists at heart).

Were those two essentially picked by the US? Because it makes total sense that we'd interfere with a high-functioning socialist government in the 00s. Hell, we still interfere to this day whenever a country democratically elects a socialist leader.

But you have to understand this, comunism and socialism in south america, is something we are incredible sick of

Are your young people sick of it though? Because it sounds like they never got to experience that golden age of the 90s/early 00s.

for you socialist americans is like a game, because you are beginners in this, I guess you have to have the experience of a communist government, then you will know.

You're right, we've only ever experienced an oppressive capitalist government that pays our workers starvation wages and treats them like disposable pawns. So perhaps it's just an issue of the grass always being greener on the other side, but after experiencing multiple "once in a lifetime" events such as 9/11, several endless wars, the economic depression of 2008, and now our nation's piss-poor response to COVID-19 (likely followed by another economic depression), can you really blame people for wanting to try something else?

 

[Deleted member 473940]

I wanted to try football manager

 

[Subtle Demise]

If you're talking about drug plants, like marijuana or cocaine, good - I don't want smoking to become even more normalised. Tobacco's already a problem; the city, when I used to go to it to attend university, stank of tobacco smoke, making the city quite putrid.

And why should mind-altering substances be legalised? Too much alcohol is already dangerous and can result in horrendous acts; I don't want to see how people behave on marijuana or cocaine.

In my book, drug plants should remain criminalised, illegal.

Well, at least you're consistent and against tobacco and alcohol too lol. Still doesn't give any han a right over another human's body, just because they don't like the smell.

You're a little bit behind the times my guy. The drug war is over, and drugs won it. Marijuana is nowhere near as dangerous or addictive as opioids, which continue to ravage the US and other countries in perfectly "legal" fashion.

I did the math, still more likely to die of the flu than to die of an opioid overdose (majority of which are caused by black market fentanyl). Still a personal choice to take irresponsible doses of painkillers anyway. I also wouldn't say that prescription opioids are legal by any means. Even IF you manage to get a prescription without being red-flagged as a drug seeker, the big pharmacies treat you like a criminal, or God forbid someone goes in to pick it up for you without a thorough knowledge of your life. Not to mention one can even be arrested and imprisoned for saving your own medication, as they construe it as "intent to distribute". So yeah, grey market item at best under very specific circumstances, completely illegal under all others.

We will forever be at an impasse because your truth is a paranoid fantasy to me. I don't care if it's a plant or any other kind of contraband, breaking the law is a risk each individual knowingly takes and must accept responsibility for if caught. If you aren't willing to accept those consequences, live a lawful life, it's not difficult. Unless you're advocating for total law enforcement it's normal for crimes to go unseen as long as we have a right to privacy, but if X video game developer obtains the means of finding out what you've done, expect to be litigated.

"One has not only a legal, but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.” – Martin Luther King, Jr.
"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." - Thomas Jefferson

A good faith argument requires you to be accurate. I've been following it closely, and I know they resigned because their legal protections were withdrawn as a result of this incident, making their job untenable. You will not sway me by pointing out that corruption exists, crimes must be punished regardless.

If we use a lot of the arguments people make for police with any other profession, then we start to see how silly those arguments are. A chef that intentionally contaminates food doesn't get qualified immunity, but a cop caught on body can planting drugs on innocent people? The worst they get is fired and rehired at another department. TheirvTheir at best get released from jail by with no compensation or even an admission of guilt from the courts or the responsible department. Outright murder leads to a paid vacation and an internal investigation where they almost always clear themselves of any wrongdoing. In the off chance that charges are filed, it's a 90+ percent acquittal rate, the same as the conviction rate that you or I would face at trial.

Another area where we are certain to disagree; It is important to draw the distinction between unarmed and passive, an unarmed citizen still has the potential to kill and injure and this should not be taken as an indicator of guilt on the part of an officer. It is, depending on the circumstances, entirely justifiable.

Whether you believe it is damning or not is immaterial, it is unseen and I try my best to avoid mind reading and projection.

The families of Breonna Taylor, Duncan Lemp and thousands of others would like to disagree with you there, bud.

 

[RichardTheKing]

Well, at least you're consistent and against tobacco and alcohol too lol. Still doesn't give any han a right over another human's body, just because they don't like the smell.

...I'm not Han? Unless that's another version of "Joe" or something that I've never heard of before...and it's not just the nauseating stench that bothers me about tobacco, but that the smoke is also harmful to bystanders. It's not as bad as what the smoker's taking into their bodies, but it's certainly not benign either - it could trigger asthma or wreak its own havoc on an innocent's body, especially if inhaled frequently.
Tobacco should be criminalised, as should marijuana and cocaine since they're also not healthy at all.

 

[ChaosEternal]

Erm...you probably didn't meant to, but you are calling DRM-free games a downside in this post. But aside from that, it also is less tied to platforms. While it doesn't happen often, there are developers who provide .apk files to play on android devices.

Nono, I meant that the 1741 individual download links is a downside. Having platform-agnostic games is great! Having to individually download 1741 different games is not so great.

 

[Subtle Demise]

...I'm not Han? Unless that's another version of "Joe" or something that I've never heard of before...and it's not just the nauseating stench that bothers me about tobacco, but that the smoke is also harmful to bystanders. It's not as bad as what the smoker's taking into their bodies, but it's certainly not benign either - it could trigger asthma or wreak its own havoc on an innocent's body, especially if inhaled frequently.
Tobacco should be criminalised, as should marijuana and cocaine since they're also not healthy at all.

My keyboard glitched. It was supposed to be human, not han. Anyway, use of any drug is a personal choice, and avoiding harming others, whether through secondhand exposure, or by doing irresponsible things while under the influence is a big part of responsible use.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

The discussion between Xzi and Neo Draven was very interesting. To bad it derailed a bit at the end.

If I may it back on track (I hope the two will respond to my comments):

-I think Xzi´s response to African-Americans crime levels makes no sense. Even if there was a certain amount of imbalance in terms of accusations and convictions there would have to be an incredible amount of bodies lying around somewhere because white people committed the murder and nobody daring to accuse them. 14% of the population committing half the murder CANNOT be explained by different levels of prosecution.

-For Neo Draven to deny white privilege is also wrong in my view. A group of African-American males at a night at a train station will be perceived as more dangerous than a group of Asian-American or European-American males (I dislike the color terms but you can use them if you like). This is privilege and can also lead to different responses by police. However, that´s not the fault of Asian-Americans, for example. If African-Americans want the same level of privilege, they would have to lower their crime rates.

 

[pustal]

No, you said: "I guarantee that plenty of the younger generation suffered just as much poverty as you did, and some of them probably suffered even more." That is an assumption of a fact, it is not a question, and incredibly so, you are guaranteeing me of this also hhhahha.

And I do understand the stuff about bad diets and obesity. But you have to understand this, back in my time, there was not money enough for even "bad diets". Also please know that "food" in my country, is not cheap like in the US, which I know from people who have been there, is actually cheaper than here.

All these because we are too far apart of everything. And yes we became the richest country of the region, thanks to the right wing military general, called Pinochet, who fought the communists, he started the "new capitalist age" and had to deal with a country in ruins left by the communists in the 70's.

Then in the 90's, he freely gave the power to the politicians and we had a good 12 years or so, of moderate socialist governments, the country was still growing, then in 2008 or so, everything started falling apart (I blame Piñera and Bachelet, two true globalists at heart).

But you have to understand this, comunism and socialism in south america, is something we are incredible sick of, that's why, like I said, I stick to the things that happen, not arguing about politics. We have endured the communist garbage our entire lives, for you socialist americans is like a game, because you are beginners in this, I guess you have to have the experience of a communist government, then you will know.

I live in a socialist country and we're not sick of it at all. We're sick of corrupt politicians but we rely on benefits that US people struggle. I can be a diabetic without having to worry not to afford insulin while in the US either you have had expensive insurance before diagnose or you're pretty much screwed.

I live in a socialist country and we're not sick of it at all. We're sick of corrupt politicians but we rely on benefits that US people struggle. I can be a diabetic without having to worry not to afford insulin while in the US either you have had expensive insurance before diagnose or you're pretty much screwed.

You're right, we've only ever experienced an oppressive capitalist government that pays our workers starvation wages and treats them like disposable pawns. So perhaps it's just an issue of the grass always being greener on the other side

Not to brag but the grass is greener on this side. I was luckily born in Europe, where countries have free state healthcare or at least free healthcare, social security and consumer protection law. I have little to no incentive to ever try to work on the US. Not that'd you want me there, as since Trump colleagues of mine, qualified engineers have been treated like trash regarding their work visas.

No, sir. Black people in America DO commit more than half the violent crimes in this nation. Not just based on arrests. Based on convictions. Is this inherent to their race? Of course not. No more than the idea that "White Privilege" is inherent when you are born white.

Racial privilege does not exist in America. MONEY privilege does. Get woke, son.

Money privilege exploring black people, they go hand in hand. you increase the arrested population and you get free labour.

On the subject:

About the matter of drugs, take it from John Ehrlichman, counsel and Assistant to the President for Domestic Affairs under Nixon:

You want to know what this was really all about? The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.

And the problem you have know as a result is that the police is a swiss army knife tasked of dealing with stuff that they are not prepared to deal with. Look at my country, we had an heroin crisis back in the 90s. The police still deals with traffickers but we take consumption as a health issue. As a result we were mostly successful in irradicating heroin consumption in the capital. Old heroin addicts are today functional society workers. The state provides them methadone to keep them off the addiction and in return they pay back society by working and paying their taxes.

In the US you smoke a joint, and specially if you're black, you are thrown in jail to feed the private prison system and companies that take free labour from it.

 

[MadonnaProject]

Yeah, because buying reduced items is the solution to racial inequality. How insulting and disgusting.

 

[pustal]

Yeah, because buying reduced items is the solution to racial inequality. How insulting and disgusting.

I guess the whole Humble model is disgusting to you? They buy or received donated keys for low prices to sell low and attract people and use the money for charities.

Is it insulting and disgusting for the Wikimedia Foundation that you help them pay for maintaining Wikipedia? Is it insulting for Make-a-Wish foundation for you to help pay for the last wishes of dying children? Is it insulting for you to help WWF preserving wild life?

How would then be insulting to do the same to help LDF pay for legal support, Race Forward pay for field analysis and Bail Project to relieve mass incarceration?

What do you think that most people are mostly adept of doing: to simply donate directly their money or to purchase a deals bundle knowing their money would go to charity? Humble is not reducing the causes, on the contrary they are providing means to fund them.

It's the same model as a thrift shop. Are thrift shops insulting causes they support?

Either way, you can always donate directly if you want.

 

[MadonnaProject]

I guess the whole Humble model is disgusting to you? They buy or received donated keys for low prices to sell low and attract people and use the money for charities.

Is it insulting and disgusting for the Wikimedia Foundation that you help them pay for maintaining Wikipedia? Is it insulting for Make-a-Wish foundation for you to help pay for the last wishes of dying children? Is it insulting for you to help WWF preserving wild life?

How would then be insulting to do the same to help LDF pay for legal support, Race Forward pay for field analysis and Bail Project to relieve mass incarceration?

What do you think that most people are mostly adept of doing: to simply donate directly their money or to purchase a deals bundle knowing their money would go to charity? Humble is not reducing the causes, on the contrary they are providing means to fund them.

It's the same model as a thrift shop. Are thrift shops insulting causes they support?

Either way, you can always donate directly if you want.

*claps* Great speech, exaggerating and comparing apples to horseshoes. Thank you, for being triggered and talking down to me, a person of colour for speaking his opinion. I thought having a mind of my own meant I should speak it.

Charity is a con and a tax break. Most of the money goes towards "running costs" and the rest salaries. What is leftover barely makes a dent in whatever cause they are pretending to support.

Since my point flew over your head like a cuckoos nest, I was referring to the notion humble bundle thinks buying keys is the way to get rid of racism. It IS deeply insulting. Its my opinion.

Not that you'd understand.

 

[pustal]

*claps* Great speech, exaggerating and comparing apples to horseshoes.

How is that apples to horses? How is it different? How are the horses here btw? Is it the kids dying?

Thank you, for being triggered and talking down to me, a person of colour for speaking his opinion. I thought having a mind of my own meant I should speak it.

How do I know you are a person of color? As far as I'm aware, you could be a blonde Nordic man. I responded to your criticism, not to your person.

And the way you are criticising a handout, sound to me you aren't even the beneficiary of such causes.

And you're entitled to your opinion, the same anyone else are. And if come to a discussion forum putting it out there, you can well expect a discussion over it.

Charity is a con and a tax break. Most of the money goes towards "running costs" and the rest salaries. What is leftover barely makes a dent in whatever cause they are pretending to support.

You can literally choose how much money, up to 100% to where and which causes go in which percentages, leaving nothing to the store.

Since my point flew over your head like a cuckoos nest, I was referring to the notion humble bundle thinks buying keys is the way to get rid of racism. It IS deeply insulting. Its my opinion.

Where did they claim that? They claim they were raising money to help institutions that make a difference. And that's what they are doing. Much more than you seem to be doing for the cause.

 

[RedBlueGreen]

itch.io had alot of crap games , thats why it was 5 bucks.

So are a ton of things in this bundle.