was installing cia's on the 3ds legal?
long story short, TX highjacks the gamecard slot with FS_mitm and then allow xci's to be loaded by using nintendo copyrighted code, this is what is stopping atmo and reinx.
was installing cia's on the 3ds legal?
I think I understand. so everything on the switch scene excluding loading xci is legal?Installing CIAs on the 3DS didn't use a stolen Nintendo certificate to make the installer work
I think I understand. so everything on the switch scene excluding loading xci is legal?
Let's just say everything Atmosphere and Reinx has implemented is legal.I think I understand. so everything on the switch scene excluding loading xci is legal?
I doubt it uses FS_mitmlong story short, TX highjacks the gamecard slot with FS_mitm and then allow xci's to be loaded by using nintendo copyrighted code, this is what is stopping atmo and reinx.
ok so now I see how you could get around the legality by making an nsp loader since it wouldn't be nitendo's code.Let's just say everything Atmosphere and Reinx has implemented is legal.
I doubt it uses FS_mitm
Let's just say everything Atmosphere and Reinx has implemented is legal.
Atmosphere doesn't come with signature patches though. It even discourages piracy. You'd have to manually load the sigpatches in (or get a package like Kosmos).Sure, you can say that. Distributing the patches that bypass signature checks is certainly illegal. You'll have to get Nintendo to argue against atmosphere in court, it's unclear what decision would be made.
With the DS flash carts court case the defendent tried to use fair use as a defence for running legal homebrew and it was thrown out, the prosecuter put forward evidence that the majority use for them was piracy. atmosphere is mostly used by pirates.
Atmosphere doesn't come with signature patches though. It even discourages piracy. You'd have to manually load the sigpatches in (or get a package like Kosmos).
Signature patches aren't illegal anyway. So that makes Reinx completely legal.ReiNX does, so that is certainly illegal.
Atmosphere publicly discourages piracy, but the patches are only possible with atmosphere and they are distributed on this site which SciresM also uses. Don't forget that civil cases have a much lower bar, you don't have to be beyond reasonable doubt. Someone just has to decide on probability that atmosphere is mostly used by pirates and that SciresM is complicit.
failoverlflow were included in the GeoHotz case and they only provided the PS3 signing key. Even being named is a major pain
I've already reported StargateNX to Nintendo's Piracy Group anyway. Piracy shouldn't be a thing to make a business out off and make a profit.Depends on which country the legal challenge is filed at. But even if If Nintendo had a clear cut challenge as you suggest then why are they not going after TX and their allegedly sister Stargate-NX? Those are not strictly for piracy but also profit from it.
Signature patches aren't illegal anyway. So that makes Reinx completely legal.
Also just because there's sigpatches for his CFW on the same site he sometimes uses. Doesn't make him liable to lawsuits. Think about your arguments before presenting them.
So you’re saying that SciresM could get into legal trouble because some person who’s not associated with him or his team in any way made patches that SciresM doesn’t want people to use... Seems legitReiNX does, so that is certainly illegal.
Atmosphere publicly discourages piracy, but the patches are only possible with atmosphere and they are distributed on this site which SciresM also uses. Don't forget that civil cases have a much lower bar, you don't have to be beyond reasonable doubt. Someone just has to decide on probability that atmosphere is mostly used by pirates and that SciresM is complicit.
Otherwise DMCA is easy to avoid, just split everything in two and get two people to release each half. The courts won't see it like that.
failoverlflow were included in the GeoHotz case and they only provided the PS3 signing key. Even being named is a major pain.
It will come down to how good nintendo's lawyers are and the capabilities of the judge.
Tell me. How does it violate the DMCA? If it did. Rei definitely would've been sued by now.No they violate the DMCA. It's illegal to distribute them or tell anyone how to patch the signature check out in any way.
So you’re saying that SciresM could get into legal trouble because some person who’s not associated with him or his team in any way made patches that SciresM doesn’t want people to use... Seems legit
When did the US say that hacking consoles was illegal?How do you know he's not associated? atmosphere is involved with anti circumvention & it has no legitimate use (US courts have decided that homebrew on consoles is not a legitimate use for jailbreaking because of the level of piracy involved with consoles).
Yes, I will likely switch over to whatever cfw that I don't have to install the game.What if you didn't need to install NSPs and load them from a HDD like XCIs? Would that convince you to switch?