In a recent blog post titled “Helping customers shift to a modern desktop”, Microsoft has confirmed that from 14 January 2020, when the extended support for Windows 7 ends, they will only keep pushing security updates to Windows 7 users who have signed up to a monthly paid subscription. Microsoft also says that the subscription fee will increase every year.

Today we are announcing that we will offer paid Windows 7 Extended Security Updates (ESU) through January 2023. The Windows 7 ESU will be sold on a per-device basis and the price will increase each year.

The pricing has not yet been revealed and Microsoft is only making this offer to Windows 7 Professional users. Seems like if you want to keep your devices safe, you will soon have to upgrade to Windows 8 or 10.

Helping customers shift to a modern desktop
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[leon315]

Windows 10 is overrated.

wIN7 OUTDATED

 

[Lacius]

Unless you have hardware or software incompatibilities, there is no reason not to update to Windows 10. It's more secure, it's faster, it's generally lighter on RAM, and it has more features.

As mentioned in the first post, Windows 7 will also stop receiving security updates in 2020, and Windows 8.1 will stop receiving security updates in 2023.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Well if someone is not using it then it is useless to them lol.

Obviously, but it objectively HAS USE, and I know that people use it, especially since Windows 10 S came out. It's not like Internet Explorer, which most people used exactly once to download Chrome or Firefox by the time Windows 7 was out

 

[Kioku]

Obviously, but it objectively HAS USE, and I know that people use it, especially since Windows 10 S came out. It's not like Internet Explorer, which most people used exactly once to download Chrome or Firefox by the time Windows 7 was out

IE.. The only browser to be considered an installer for better browsers. :v

 

[WildDog]

I am not talking about "services", what i meant are the system packages stored in windows\servicing\packages. You can't chose to not update them, you can't remove them without extra hacks. Try to remove the Windows Store

Are you kidding me? you can do that with gpedit.msc (which is not an "extra hack") once it is disable. Windows update won't update the store nor any app you got from the store..

Most of those "extra hacks" or "uber ultra win 10 tweak!!" are just scripts that do it for you, you are not "hacking" windows, just using functions that are already there and should be common knowledge for most not so basic user...

In fact Microsoft store is one of the things i disable in all win 10 computers, once disable it won't update and yes some files are not deleted will waste the amazing and uber space of 910KB!!!!!!!!!

 

[the_randomizer]

Windows 10 and "better OS" don't go together

That's funny, it's been 100% stable on my end, not a single crash. You were saying?

 

[The Real Jdbye]

Hasn't this always been a thing for business users? They just don't advertise it.

 

[WildDog]

Hasn't this always been a thing for business users? They just don't advertise it.

Yes, that's why with these so called "hacks" people been able to keep xp updated. What these "home" user don't get is that they are stuck using outdated Software from Web Browser to Antivirus.....

 

[The Real Jdbye]

Yes, that's why with these so called "hacks" people been able to keep xp updated. What these "home" user don't get is that they are stuck using outdated Software from Web Browser to Antivirus.....

Businesses are often stuck using outdated software whether they want to or not. Hence why they need this sort of thing to at least keep Windows secure, since their software won't work on newer versions.
But for home users, there's not really much point in staying on old Windows versions.

 

[Deleted User]

This seems like something only businesses and corporations that use Windows 7 regularly on their PCs would want to use. I doubt most end-users would find much use in paying for updates to an old OS, especially considering it's now 2 iterations of Windows behind by this point. The fact that only the Professional versions of Windows will be receiving these updates is also rather telling.

Performing an update is an arduous task in business, and I'd imagine it's a headache to get all the company's necessary software up and running on a newer OS without any bugs or issues on all computers. There's also the possibility that Windows 7 is being used as part of a WAMP Stack to run the aforementioned hypothetical company's website or databases. When it comes to servers and corporations, the general attitude towards software is "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

 

[WildDog]

Businesses are often stuck using outdated software whether they want to or not. Hence why they need this sort of thing to at least keep Windows secure, since their software won't work on newer versions.
But for home users, there's not really much point in staying on old Windows versions.

I know, i work as IT for various business, sometimes they need to keep some machines running old software for legacy purpose.
But the home user that insist in using Xp as their MAIN os, is pointless. Sure you can keep a few pc running old OS for fun and playing older games in the hardware they were meant to be played BUT using it for daily using, checking your bank account, paypal etc... It's just nuts.

 

[Hayato213]

Windows 10 works fine, it has been out for about three years now. When people said compatibility problem I would agree if you said when it first came out, now Windows 10 works fine.

 

[BiggieCheese]

All things considered, what’s the point of Windows 10 being more “secure” (Is there any proof that’s actually true beyond Microsoft’s claims anyway?) from a user perspective when having even a remote degree of tech-savviness and common sense should be enough for you to avoid viruses and malware in most cases, I get that a business would need that due to the potentially very high stakes involved, but in that case... Why not just use one of the many flavors of Linux that are out there instead? I would never want to go with the OS that’s the most popular among people with malicious intent, especially if my clients, employees or even my information and money would be at risk.
None of this even matters anyway at this point, thanks to most of Intel’s CPUs getting exploited to hell and back, unless you want to enable different patches that will severely gimp your CPU and borderline turn it into a potato clock, pretty much any concept of security on modern computers has pretty much died for the time being unless you’re an AMD user, (or if you’re willing to spend some mad dosh on a new CPU) and in that case it’s just a matter of time until major exploits for their CPUs are discovered as well.

 

[WildDog]

All things considered, what’s the point of Windows 10 being more “secure” (Is there any proof that’s actually true beyond Microsoft’s claims anyway?) from a user perspective when having even a remote degree of tech-savviness and common sense should be enough for you to avoid viruses and malware in most cases, I get that a business would need that due to the potentially very high stakes involved, but in that case... Why not just use one of the many flavors of Linux that are out there instead? I would never want to go with the OS that’s the most popular among people with malicious intent, especially if my clients, employees or even my information and money would be at risk.
None of this even matters anyway at this point, thanks to most of Intel’s CPUs getting exploited to hell and back, unless you want to enable different patches that will severely gimp your CPU and borderline turn it into a potato clock, pretty much any concept of security on modern computers has pretty much died for the time being unless you’re an AMD user, (or if you’re willing to spend some mad dosh on a new CPU) and in that case it’s just a matter of time until major exploits for their CPUs are discovered as well.

Big business, use a mix of OS, they are not always all Windows, all Linux, all MacOs.
For the example the machine that's in charge of being the firewall of the local network can be running a flavour of linux, a specific workstation could be a very high end mac computer, etc. For general purpose Windows is ideal since it's the OS that many people use in their houses, so they will be more confortable using it.
Also the idea of 100% is false and every person working in a security area will know it, there is always a chance of breach, that's why it's important to keep system updated as possible...

Only silly people think that any OS can be the one to rule them all. They don't compete, they coexist each of them has their pros and cons.

 

[Canna]

What a absolute joke,, charging people who purchased there license to own a copy of windows with promised updates and feature support just to Kick it to the curb, but like other releases support ends.. how about you give windows users on 7 a free update to 10 before you shut it down... Like you offered to us in the beginning...

Then there windows 10 which i am using ,
But its full of Microsoft spyware... Sending your private data to them..
Check out your privacy settings, block everything... and please use a tool called spybot anti beacon, as your still sending telemetry data to them and what programs you are using such and so forth...
Microsoft did the sneaky with 10 but can be avoided.. as i am now on lock down and they dont get sht from me ...

So yeah check out ya privacy and the app i recommend spybot anti beacon..
Other then that 10 seems to work fine, a big difference to 7...Some nice features some bad.
But there is nothing wrong with 7 either... well between 10/7....

As for the windows between 7 and 10 there absolute dog..

I have worked with computers since i was a young boy that was over 15 years now, i passed my A+ certification to become a IT technician, all tho this was mainly hardware side, i still was taught the software side also,the networking blah blah .... Always make sure you have a good antivirus and malware application, try to use a vpn if and were possible... Microsoft and windows defender sux balls and is about as much use as a chocolate teapot...

Sorry i wont go on haha god damn it why did i become interested in Personal computers/technology i dont know.

 

[comput3rus3r]

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In a recent blog post titled “Helping customers shift to a modern desktop”, Microsoft has confirmed that from 14 January 2020, when the extended support for Windows 7 ends, they will only keep pushing security updates to Windows 7 users who have signed up to a monthly paid subscription. Microsoft also says that the subscription fee will increase every year.



The pricing has not yet been revealed and Microsoft is only making this offer to Windows 7 Professional users. Seems like if you want to keep your devices safe, you will soon have to upgrade to Windows 8 or 10.

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So I have to wait till 2020 for MS to stop nagging me with more updates?

 

[supergamer368]

That’s a really stupid idea. What if people like Windows 7 because it doesn’t need an update every few minutes? Now it can only get an update every few dollars. Way to go micro$oft, extract money from people just because they don’t use your new junk. (psst, when the time comes, don’t activate it. it costs like $100.)

 

[Seriel]

Hasn't this always been a thing for business users? They just don't advertise it.

Yeah it's been a thing for XP and Vista as far as I understand, they're advertising it a lot further this time, likely due to the large amount of users still using 7 (Even home ones)

What a absolute joke,, charging people who purchased there license to own a copy of windows with promised updates

That’s a really stupid idea. What if people like Windows 7 because it doesn’t need an update every few minutes? Now it can only get an update every few dollars. Way to go micro$oft, extract money from people just because they don’t use your new junk. (psst, when the time comes, don’t activate it. it costs like $100.)

The license you originally bought for Windows 7 included (extended) support until 2020 which is still there, they're just adding more support for the money, which I guess is perfectly fine. You didn't pay for all this extra support when you bought 7 (You paid agreeing that it ends in 2020) and it costs Microsoft money to make these updates so what's so wrong about them offering the choice for people who want it? Microsoft is not taking anything away from you, they're giving you more updates if you really need them (Mainly for business users who probably pay more to upgrade all their many systems to 10)

 

[Canna]

Yeah it's been a thing for XP and Vista as far as I understand, they're advertising it a lot further this time, likely due to the large amount of users still using 7 (Even home ones)




The license you originally bought for Windows 7 included (extended) support until 2020 which is still there, they're just adding more support for the money, which I guess is perfectly fine. You didn't pay for all this extra support when you bought 7 (You paid agreeing that it ends in 2020) and it costs Microsoft money to make these updates so what's so wrong about them offering the choice for people who want it? Microsoft is not taking anything away from you, they're giving you more updates if you really need them (Mainly for business users who probably pay more to upgrade all their many systems to 10)

Carm the hell down...Getting all moody and sht You this you that.
I never said it has ended i know its there till 2020... Its good there continuing to add support for people who wish to use it, but charging them for it not sure i personally agree on that..Never said anything was wrong them giving a choice...

 

[WildDog]

how about you give windows users on 7 a free update to 10 before you shut it down... Like you offered to us in the beginning...

Then there windows 10 which i am using ,
But its full of Microsoft spyware... Sending your private data to them..
Check out your privacy settings, block everything... and please use a tool called spybot anti beacon, as your still sending telemetry data to them and what programs you are using such and so forth...
Microsoft did the sneaky with 10 but can be avoided.. as i am now on lock down and they dont get sht from me ...
.

Why would give AGAIN another chance for a free upgrade?? The one they did at the start lasted for a loooooong time, more than enough for every single user of Win 7 to upgrade... Those who refused, well their lose.

That "spyware" is far from being a secret well hiding by MS, people just need to read what they are installing...

What if people like Windows 7 because it doesn’t need an update every few minutes?

Oh i see you never used Win 7 when it was brand new....

Its good there continuing to add support for people who wish to use it, but charging them for it not sure i personally agree on that..Never said anything was wrong them giving a choice...

Why not? Microsoft never lied about when the support for an OS will end, you have the tables. It was not a secret, all the OS have a lifespan. Making an update cost resources to Microsoft, so i don't what's wrong to charge for updates for an OS that is no longer supported.
They did respect their part of the contract.