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  1. x65943

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    Trump and Biden mostly held their own - no giant shockers tonight.

    Who do you think won?
     
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    Trump wiped the floor with him and it wasn't even close.

    Sleepy Joe couldn't even say the words "law and order".
     
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    The winner is whoever shifts the polls in their favor. Even then, the voters the ones who have the final word. Polls only hold so much value.
     
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    Um what debate did u watch?
     
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    You're obviously biased if you think Biden even got close to winning. Trump is a world class debater Biden stumbled over his lines.

    BTW it was 2 against 1 Chris Wallace and Joe Biden vs Donald Trump and Trump still won. Sorry Dems.
     
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    2 against 1 and I still think trump won.
     
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    Chris Wallace
     
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    Whole thing was a shitshow. No one really won that thing. However, as I suspect it was Trump's goal to derail the whole thing from the start since he's not equipped to do actual debating, I guess to an extent he won, because he accomplished just that.
     
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    Trump is the chosen one that will lead our people to the promise land
     
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    Trump had to debate against two opponents and still came out on top of Sleepy Joe and Crazy Chris. He just proves over and over that he is the best man for the job and will only make the US greater in the next 4 years.

    Edit: According to the poll and comments at this moment, the majority of leftists on this site must be too busy screaming into their pillows after that "elder abuse" of a debate.
     
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    Undecideds seem to be remaining undecided overall after that debate, so I'd say it's fair to say there was no real winner. People that were cheering for their guy will think he came out on top, but the people that are supposed to actually be getting something from these debates to inform their decisions remain unmoved, so they both failed to win tonight if we're being truly honest about what it should mean to "win" one of these debates.
     
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    "No one", should be an option.
     
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    I think the both of them did pretty terribly in advocating for themselves. It just seemed like two guys that disdain each other yelling incoherently with a horribly biased debate moderator.

    Biden needed to not stumble and say some weird shit. Trump needed to get aggressive and shake him. Both of them somewhat achieved in that regard.
     
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    Not a trump supporter but I think it went exactly as he planned. His camp loves it.
     
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    Hard to even call what happened a debate, and not just a train wreck on ice.

    Biden actually managed to seem competent, but he also didn’t do much to win anyone over. Considering I expected a barely-there man—especially after all the “dementia” snark due to the headlines—I’m genuinely impressed. But I also didn’t see anything that made me confident in him.

    As for Trump, he pretty much puppeteered that whole event. Even if you hate Trump, he has that bully-level attitude to make sure he’s heard by everyone in a million mile radius. He acted like a complete buffoon at points, but he also never let the tables turn on him, really. Biden got maybe one solid hit in, and that was it.

    In the end, no one wins. The Americans, the Democrats, nor the Republicans. But we’re a country so divided by politics, and we treat it as such a sports game, well, everyone thinks their side won, then. Trump supporters will believe that Trump 4D chess’d Biden by yelling a lot, while the left will take it as a prize that Biden didn’t fall apart on stage.

    Also did anyone else want to die from cringe when the moderator of the debate had to scream “MISTER PRESIDENT. MISTER PRESIDENT PLEASE STOP TALKING!!!”? Gosh, how awkward.
     
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    says Fox News:
    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/first-presidential-debate-who-won-style-substance-doug-schoen

    60% said Biden won, 28% said Trump won, according to CNN poll of watchers conducted by SSRS.
    src: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/29/politics/donald-trump-joe-biden-debate-poll/index.html

    edit: On the CNN poll:
    Someone do the math.. ;)
     
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    If hell is the land you were promised, you are certainly right... and already arrived.

    Man, this is the pinnacle of that South Park episode about voting and at the same time it's like the current console wars. No interesting games to show on both sides, but they sell like hotcakes.

    If I had to decide which participant of that debate I would vote for, it'd be Chris Wallace. Then again there are other candidates that are actually going to be on the ballot which in fact were not present at that nonsensical debate. But you guys argue about the two least votable of them all.
     
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    ? Trump actively did one thing. In terms of the economy, he gave tax cuts, then Covid tanked the economy, then he printed more money for wall street, and largely ignored mainstreet. This resulted in the economy recovering 'quicker than the FED expected'. https://www.businessinsider.com/fed...n-expected-coronavirus-risks-2020-6?r=DE&IR=T But they are incentivized to say that to create positive buzz for business. Even though its still true.

    Thats about all that he has done. Constructively, if you want to call it that.

    In all (?) other instances he has basically stuck to business as usual and inaction, and that includes trade deals.

    (If you dont want to vote on things like 'display of strength, by sending in the military into his own country, or holding up a bible'.)

    And because of covid the US is now in a recession.

    Now people are trying to decide, if the country is hurting bad enough, or if you can let that continue for another 4 years. ;)

    That kind of stuck.. ;)



    On the climate issue they differed to a large extent:

    Also, on the climate issue, if you havent seen through that his response of "I want clean water and clean air", has nothing to do with climate, then you know now. ;) But he still is the candidate, that would use fossile fuels for a longer time (those companies get more revenue), and in the process prevent earlier action by other countries. You cant win this via a blame game like 'china does more than US and europe combined', because china is a developing nation (not like the US and europe), and the 'factory of the world' and rangling a much larger inequality issue in country in terms of income and opportunity. So if they take a further hit on production... Stuff kind of doesnt shake out so well. In addition to that they did invest in R&D and they are producing much of the solar energy infrastructure. (You try to bring production back to the US and europe, but china has kind of cornered the resource market for solar as well, thats why you produce electric cars, when you are the US.. ;) )

    Retrofitting houses is always a good idea, if you have no industry in that sector going, economic losses from that shouldnt be that high, but gains in terms of CO2 reduction also are low there. (The Biden position.) Biden also would mandate the brasillian forests not being destroyed and prop up a large investment fund on reforestation (in other countries, not so much the US, because thats cheaper per amount of CO2 storage you get), which also is a mitigation strategy (not too radical, not too costly in terms of CO2 reduction but low gains).


    On the affordable health care issue during the past 4 years almost nothing happend. (Industry lobbying won.)


    On the take womens rights of choice away - it was all "deny, deny, deny". with Biden only being able to mention that there are about 20 motions 'near' reaching the supreme court that would do that one salami slice at the time. But that dindt 'hit big' because people dindt understand that.


    What else?
     
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    What? I was talking solely about the debate, not his actual presidency. That’s an entire other can of worms. When it came to tonight’s debate, Trump did as Trump does. He got loud, over the top, and wouldn’t back down. Everything his audience loves to see. Normal republicans who might have not cared could get fired up by hearing how “poor Trump got 2v1’d by Biden and Wallace!!! How evil!!! But our hero still won despite that!!!” Or how Trump continues to hold his ground on not 100% liking masks, or the fact that the mail in ballots could be messed up, or that he’s pumped the economy so hard, etc. his voters will gobble that up.
     
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    ...Russia and mental illness.
     
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