Went down the rabbit hole - here is the report.
- Reddit channel that is promoting this is /r/China_Flu/ which - is political.
- Guy hosting the youtube conference on the third of september, is completely disinterested in the material - when people are speaking english, shows microexpressions of 'cynical laughter' followed by complete boredom, but then switches to 'shoutcaster' mode (very enthused), as soon as he has to moderate in chinese again.
- Dr Li-Meng Yan, pushes an agenda where she is more interested in telling the world, where there are fake news, where there is 'tha truth', where there is 'mixed reporting' which confuses people, where CCP party involvement ensures, that only one side of scientists is heard, where she promotes, we are the scientists, we speak chinese, we can tell the world whats true... and so on. So 90% of what she is bringing is actually story telling. Which is never a good sign, for someone that actually wants to 'prove' something.
src: h**ps://youtu.be/QokZ392yxLc?t=4700
- reddit channel /r/China_Flew/ features her for almost exactly one month now - but during that month very intensely. Which is odd, since she showed up on Fox in June, and apparently on chinese Youtube in january first (still havent found that appearance).
And most importantly:
All 'evidene' brought in that hour long youtube conference between scientists - is circumstantial. All of it. The argument is not a bad one - stating, that china and the CCP dont have an airtight case for mapping out 'natural progression of that virus from bat to human' (see also:
https://old.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/isr6ba/scientists_claim_serious_data_discrepancies_in/ ), and that afair time magazine copied some of those 'leniencies' and didnt investigate them further - but thats one thing, and making a one and a half hour show out of it is another.
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All of that screams crackpot.
Most of that screams manufactured.
Rhetorics are circular, attack the thing thats most easily attacked ('no airtight proof'), and prep up an agenda (are more about 'telling a story' than about proving a point).
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Talking about proving a point - the Dr has actually released her 'proof' by now, and /r/China_Flu/ seemingly are amongst the first to feature it.
Here:
https://old.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/islmky/limeng_yan_unusual_features_of_the_sarscov2/
Have fun.
What I saw in the video above, smells like a disinformation campaign.
edit: The chinese blogger in the US she released to in january is Mr uninterested and bored, with cynical facial expressions from above (according to FOX news in june), so you already have the channel linked in here.
edit2: Effing FOX underlayed the june clip with mood sounds, and packed in a produced human interest package (I felt very scared, my husband was very scared, here is a wedding photo, I knew at every step in the airport, that it could be over, ...).
edit: News of the report got no traction on ycombinator:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24471498
edit: second ycombinator link:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24477045
edit: Limeng Yan immediately framed a ddos (traffic spike) to the preprint website as "it being hacked" (if that is her account, but also - in general, that framing did happen):
https://twitter.com/LiMengYAN119/status/1305509269018759169
edit: Google for the release link is extremely interesting imho:
https://www.google.com/search?q=https://zenodo.org/record/4028830
Shows in what communities the story is seeded.
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Does anyone here have any data related to the effectiveness of masks and social distancing? I can't seem to correlate any major influences from either of those strategies.
Masks yes, social distancing - no.
Masks:
Because you can determine how big the virus is (size), an therefore how effective certain types of masks are - but you cant infect groups of people with Covid just to see how well social distancing works.
Roughly.
People already had a hard time coming to conclusions if transmission is airborn or just mukus based.
We know that social distancing works though. Because we see clusters where people cant/wont social distance. (Meat processing plants, churches, private festivities, families...)
(You need a proper exposure to it for 15 minutes, to have a high chance of being affected apparently, which is why in supermarkets mostly employees get it, that are exposed to it throughout the day (you can find studies on that too)).
edit: See also:
https://www.news-medical.net/news/2...velops-a-prediction-model-for-SARS-CoV-2.aspx
referencing: