The media is creating mass hysteria over the Coronavirus.

[Sicklyboy]

I'm tired of people comparing wearing a mask (which can cause physical pain on the wars and eyes)

If your mask is causing pain to your ears, get a mask that fits better.
If your mask is causing pain to your eyes, take it off of your fucking eyes, dumbass, it doesn't go there.

I've been wearing a mask for 8 hours a day at work since probably April, 5 days a week, sometimes on construction sites. I've work a mask for 8 hour flights. It's a mild discomfort at best, nothing that picking the loop up and rubbing the back of your ears for a second or two won't fix. Grow up.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

Don't start with me little boy.
I said what I said.
Be gone.

No.

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If your mask is causing pain to your ears, get a mask that fits better.
If your mask is causing pain to your eyes, take it off of your fucking eyes, dumbass, it doesn't go there.

I've been wearing a mask for 8 hours a day at work since probably April, 5 days a week, sometimes on construction sites. I've work a mask for 8 hour flights. It's a mild discomfort at best, nothing that picking the loop up and rubbing the back of your ears for a second or two won't fix. Grow up.

Good for you, you're an adult who goes outside and has a job. I'm none of those things.

 

[Deleted member 412537]

No.

K.
[I'm still pleased to have contributed to this thread.]

 

[Sicklyboy]

Good for you, you're an adult who goes outside and has a job. I'm none of those things.

Yep. And by the sounds of your reply there are significantly more opportunities where I'd have to wear a mask than you do, yet I'm not the one complaining about them because they're not that big of a deal. They are a mild inconvenience at best worst.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

Yep. And by the sounds of your reply there are significantly more opportunities where I'd have to wear a mask than you do, yet I'm not the one complaining about them because they're not that big of a deal. They are a mild inconvenience at best worst.

You got used to them.

 

[KingVamp]

Unless you are sick already, your mask shouldn't be getting messy. Getting a properly fitted mask should solves all your problems.

 

[PZT]

If your mask is causing pain to your ears, get a mask that fits better.
If your mask is causing pain to your eyes, take it off of your fucking eyes, dumbass, it doesn't go there.

I've been wearing a mask for 8 hours a day at work since probably April, 5 days a week, sometimes on construction sites. I've work a mask for 8 hour flights. It's a mild discomfort at best, nothing that picking the loop up and rubbing the back of your ears for a second or two won't fix. Grow up.

Counterpoint: people on the autism spectrum can't ignore sensory irritations like that, why do you think they cut the tags off the inside of their clothes, it's ableist to say it's a mild discomfort at best for everybody, for you maybe

 

[Sicklyboy]

Counterpoint: people on the autism spectrum can't ignore sensory irritations like that, why do you think they cut the tags off the inside of their clothes, it's ableist to say it's a mild discomfort at best for everybody, for you maybe

Sure, that's a very valid counterpoint. However I would be hard-pressed to believe that the overwhelming majority of people complaining about masks are on the spectrum or have a sensory processing disorder or the likes, with the unifying characteristic instead being that the complaints are coming largely from people aligning with a conservative/Republican political ideology, at least as far as the US goes.

I have friends on the spectrum who have told me their success stories with different fabric types or other things like spacers that help to pull the mask off of your mouth. I'm not on the spectrum myself so I can't confirm their anecdotes, and I also am well aware there is no one-size-fits-all solution. Generally speaking though, I stand by my opinion due to my reasons outlined above and previously, in most circumstances.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

Counterpoint: people on the autism spectrum can't ignore sensory irritations like that, why do you think they cut the tags off the inside of their clothes, it's ableist to say it's a mild discomfort at best for everybody, for you maybe

Autism? Well, I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[notimp]

Counterpoint: people on the autism spectrum can't ignore sensory irritations like that, why do you think they cut the tags off the inside of their clothes, it's ableist to say it's a mild discomfort at best for everybody, for you maybe

Desensitization training, it works. *snark* And is PC!

 

[UltraSUPRA]

Don't reply until you've watched the video. Claiming that PragerU is unreliable is no excuse, and also a lie. He uses sources from the CDC.

 

[notimp]

Come on UltraPRHansel, even you reading this forum knew the real number was below 1Mio deaths worldwide... Reported.

Issue - its sustained. So US will reach 250.000 this year (which could be 1/3s higher in real numbers), which is 7% of your yearly birth rate..

Now, the death number is likely to fall 'naturally', once most old people have gone, but until then...
Also, with it raging on, life expectancy for most people would decrease.

To put it in perspective you dont ask people percentage of population that had died within a year (because people dont think in lower that 1% fractions of very large numbers, their 'feels based math' usually completely collapses, past 10.000 anything. Most people cant even conceptualize 1000 of something. (Which is why you have the right wing discussions about our demo was 10k people, no it was only 1k, lier, cheat, ... and so on.. ), you compare it with wars:
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/04/coronavirus-death-toll-vietnam-war-cvd/

Another way to show you just how completely stupid you are - a real mark for every disinformation peddler in town - is state reaction. If this were 'nothing' - would the US have spent 6 trillion USD (open ended), to combat the economic effects of virus mitigation measures? How dumb are you?

You are not pretty dumb, you are outrageously dumb, or you are a 'better be payed' troll. After about three months of activity we need a poll here - how many people trust in your judgement. Because usualy NOTHING you post has any substance to it. Its like having the dumbest kid in school running the debate club.

I want to ignore you so freaking bad. But I cant - because other people might be half as stupid as your claims, and then believe your effing propaganda.

And dont try to play the 'source blamed unfairly game' you know your source featured the dumbest PR possible - but you excused them with 'this time, they use CDC numbers!'

 

[notimp]

Also the 'hospitals have an incentive to call them covid deaths so they get more funding from the state' 'yes they do' interaction is an UTTER LIE.

edit: https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-covid-19-death-count/
Also - hospitals still loose money on medicare Covid patient treatments, so additional funds have to step in.

If you had a heart problem, or diabetes, or high blood pressure, and COVID killed you. COVID killed you.

If you had a heart problem, or diabetes, or high blood pressure, and a car killed you, .... you finish that sentence.

If you cant stop posting propaganda, hold your breath until you can. Maybe that helps.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

Also the 'hospitals have an incentive to call them covid deaths so they get more funding from the state' 'yes they do' interaction is an UTTER LIE.

If you had a heart problem, or diabetes, or high blood pressure, and COVID killed you. COVID killed you.

If you had a heart problem, or diabetes, or high blood pressure, and a car killed you, .... you finish that sentence.

You can't compare the two. You wouldn't survive the car crash regardless. If you got COVID without the other medical issues, you'd likely survive.

 

[notimp]

You can't compare the two. You wouldn't survive the car crash regardless. If you got COVID without the other medical issues, you'd likely survive.

Idiot.

Why? Because - you then can still believe in your statement?

This is the stupidest form of creating a strawman I've seen in my life.


Covid din't kill those people - it was THEIR LIFESTYLE?!

See first word in this posting.

Take a clue from the factchecking website.
Take a clue from this being standard reporting procedure.
Take a clue from even ENTIRELY unrelated, usually preventable, deaths from hospitals being over capacity being caused by Covid, if 90% of the people flooding in, in a specific week show Covid symptoms (which a few other countries used as metrics).
Take a clue from people using overmortality as the only 'true' structural way to look at Covid deathtolls.

Now that you know, that people need 'footballstadiums' and 'bathtubs' as measures of large quantities, because their 'felt' reference systems just fail on large numbers of anything - I dont want to see you posting such disgusting jaywalking 'gotcha' propaganda ever again. Thats the main thing.

At the beginning of next year you will hear, that more people in the US died from Covid-19 than in World War 2. Merry Christmas.

 

[notimp]

Here are the CDCs overmortality numbers:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

And dont forget to look at New York City at 5x the normal deathrate in the weeks before social distancing measures hit.

Most important measure?

People showing symptoms, not going to work anymore (almost halfs your infection rate). After that comes mask wearing in crowded places.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

Covid din't kill those people - it was THEIR LIFESTYLE?!

Their lifestyle is more or less responsible for their death, yes. If they didn't have to go to the hospital, they wouldn't have caught COVID, and if they caught it without those underlying issues, they'd have likely survived.

Take a clue from even ENTIRELY unrelated, usually preventable, deaths from hospitals being over capacity being caused by Covid, if 90% of the people flooding in, in a specific week show Covid symptoms (which a few other countries used as metrics).

Build another hospital and have it be strictly for COVID.

Take a clue from people using overmortality as the only 'true' structural way to look at Covid deathtolls.

Heh. "Overmortality". You really think that not everyone is going to catch it. Cute.

 

[notimp]

Their lifestyle is more or less responsible for their death, yes. If they didn't have to go to the hospital, they wouldn't have caught COVID, and if they caught it without those underlying issues, they'd have likely survived.

Hey hows your strawman doing today? Have you enjoyed breakfast yet? What did kill them today? Them eating bad? Not jogging enough?

Or was it just their age? (If you are older you have mor preexisting conditions)? Should have done more yoga then. Bought more anti agng cream.

Every post of yours.... Take a clue. Or better, take a hike. So you dont die from Covid.

 

[UltraSUPRA]

Hey hows your strawman doing today? Have you enjoyed breakfast yet? What did kill them today? Them eating bad? Not jogging enough?

Or was it just their age? (If you are older you have mor preexisting conditions)? Should have done more yoga then. Bought more anti agng cream.

Every post of yours.... Take a clue. Or better, take a hike. So you dont die from Covid.

Are you saying they would have died if they caught Winnie the Flu whether they had those underlying conditions or not?

 

[notimp]

Are you saying they would have died if they caught Winnie the Flu whether they had those underlying conditions or not?

Hey, you are doing your own Trump impression! How cute!

In the United States, 36.5 percent of adults are obese. Another 32.5 percent of American adults are overweight. So your proposal against Covid-19 is a diet?

Military bootcamps?