Homebrew Smealum, Creator of Portal DS/Aperture Science, has hacked the 3DS

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and.. Pokémon X/Y?? surely you'll need to update >:)

Surely you won't because it's cartridge-based and you can already spoof the firmware version on Gateway. Unless it uses NAND saves, it's going to be just fine. ;)
^ that exactly.

Besides, I also never cared much for Pokemon.
 
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^ that exactly.

Besides, I also never cared much for Pokemon.
but... I'm sure that it will be NAND Save to prevent Pokémon Cloning fot those who download the game

Besides, I also never cared much for Pokemon.

oww u,u too bad :/

well then... I really want to help with all this... :/ but I'm going to star University... :C hope in a couple of years I can do something more >:3
 

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Ouch lol.
I thought GW only worked for 4.5 and below?


The card itself yes, but I remember the team saying that the exploit can work up till 6.2, anything above that isn't likely. Unless they come up with a way to downgrade the firmware via software hacks....I sure as hell aren't gonna spend money on a new XL B-)


it is only for 4.5 and below, but they got it to semi working on 5.0+ from what i've read

Well ain't that kick to the nuts. I hope they can get it working for those who were dumb enough like me ROFL! Surely, they want our money too, right? ;)
 

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Why do you doubt it?
"Animal Crossing: New Leaf" requires a substantial amount of space that can be accessed very quickly (since the save chip has to contain practically the entire village, custom interiors included), this type of functionality is exactly why SLC-NAND was implemented in the cartridge. Not only Pokemon doesn't call for that kind of a chip mechanics-wise, there's also a purely economical reasons why such a chip wouldn't be implemented.

After the shortages of "Animal Crossing: New Leaf" in Japan Iwata issued a statement explaining that the supply of SLC-NAND is very limited as it's not a commonly used or manufactured type of memory. "Animal Crossing: New Leaf" sold beyond expectations and Nintendo couldn't keep up with re-stocking SLC-NAND just in Japan, let alone the rest of the world.

"Pokemon X/Y" will easily top those sales figures plus it will be released worldwide on the same date unlike "Animal Crossing: New Leaf" so they need to manufacture an infinitely larger number of cartridges on-schedule.

I don't think Nintendo would be willing to lose money and waste time waiting restocking their sparse supply of SLC-NAND chips that the game didn't even need in the first place rather than pushing as many units as humanly possible worldwide.

SLC-NAND was never an Anti-Piracy measure, it was a necessary evil due to how "Animal Crossing: New Leaf" works. The mechanics which necessitated its use will not be present in "Pokemon X/Y".

tl;dr I would be quite surprised if SLC-NAND was be on "Pokemon X/Y" cartridges.
 

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the guys dissing this need to back off, the reason hackers won't release things anymore is because of how you guys act and the lack of respect you have for other hackers that do all the work that you sit back and watch get done.
 
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the guys dissing this need to back off, the reason hackers won't release things anymore is because of how you guys act and the lack of respect you have for other hackers that do all the work that you sit back and watch get done.
Or maybe just maybe, there's literally nothing worthwhile to release...

What would you do with some files that made your 3DS say "hacked" and nothing else? More work needs to be done.
 

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"Animal Crossing: New Leaf" requires a substantial amount of space that can be accessed very quickly (since the save chip has to contain practically the entire village, custom interiors included), this type of functionality is exactly why SLC-NAND was implemented in the cartridge. Not only Pokemon doesn't call for that kind of a chip mechanics-wise, there's also a purely economical reasons why such a chip wouldn't be implemented.

After the shortages of "Animal Crossing: New Leaf" in Japan Iwata issued a statement explaining that the supply of SLC-NAND is very limited as it's not a commonly used or manufactured type of memory. "Animal Crossing: New Leaf" sold beyond expectations and Nintendo couldn't keep up with re-stocking SLC-NAND just in Japan, let alone the rest of the world.

"Pokemon X/Y" will easily top those sales figures plus it will be released worldwide on the same date unlike "Animal Crossing: New Leaf" so they need to manufacture an infinitely larger number of cartridges on-schedule.

I don't think Nintendo would be willing to lose money and waste time waiting to restock their sparse supply of SLC-NAND chips that the game didn't even need in the first place rather than pushing as many units as humanly possible worldwide.

SLC-NAND was never an Anti-Piracy measure, it was a necessary evil due to how "Animal Crossing: New Leaf" works. The mechanics which necessitated its use will not be present in "Pokemon X/Y".

tl;dr I would be quite surprised if SLC-NAND was be on "Pokemon X/Y" cartridges.
I think this is the first post in this thread with actual value (save for one by the author in question, which was promptly ignored). I've been wondering what the deal with that NAND chip was for a while now, so thank you for that.
 
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We were right to be hacked last fall. Most of you are the reason. Not the hackers, good on you, but the beggars.

constant begging and bellyaching about getting free shit is annoying and immature, 'but then again so is trying to spite the entire scene because of such behavior,
the devs should just ignore it , if they choose to retaliate by not releasing their findings then they are just being petty and immature themselves
 

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Or maybe just maybe, there's literally nothing worthwhile to release...

What would you do with some files that made your 3DS say "hacked" and nothing else? More work needs to be done.


The initial "Hello World" proof of concept is what gets everything else going, you'll just have to wait for a warez loader.
 

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The initial "Hello World" proof of concept is what gets everything else going, you'll just have to wait for a warez loader.
Not if it's coded by hand in hex/machine code... That doesn't do your typical Dev any good.
 
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It's a legal settlement. You might want to try reading up on this thing called "the legal system" that, despite what you may believe, is a real thing that exists and holds serious weight in modern society.
It's also a system that almost never works and bends to the will of the rich and powerful to push their agenda on the rest of society.
 
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Sure is anti-piracy in here.


Seeing as most of the people here don't give a flying f**k about AP here..... Until AP can be done in such a way that can't be circumvented, most people aren't going to care about that, the legalities/illegalities of dumping ROMs. :creep: AP isn't going to stop people from finding a way.
 
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