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For whom will/would you vote?

This poll will close on Nov 4, 2020 at 8:41 PM.
  1. Donald Trump and Mike Pence (Republican Party)

    33.7%
  2. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris (Democratic Party)

    51.5%
  3. Jo Jorgensen and Spike Cohen (Libertarian Party)

    2.7%
  4. Howie Hawkins and Angela Walker (Green Party)

    3.7%
  5. Other

    8.3%
  6. 563 voter(s)
  1. Lacius

    OP Lacius GBAtemp Legend
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    Antifa has not been labeled a terrorist organization. Of all the terrorism incidents in the US since 1994, there has not been a single murder attributed to Antifa.

    Also, I'm not sure why you keep saying there are more black members of the Proud Boys than Antifa. 1. You don't know that, and 2. It wouldn't matter one bit.
     
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  2. shamzie

    shamzie Oh David de Gea <3
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    My bad, all that looting and murdering was done by 'an idea'
     
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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)
     
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  4. UltraSUPRA

    UltraSUPRA No Hope, No Escape, No Mask
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  5. Lacius

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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proud_Boys
     
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    UltraSUPRA No Hope, No Escape, No Mask
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  7. Lacius

    OP Lacius GBAtemp Legend
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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter

    Y'all need to educate yourselves. I'm tired of doing it.
     
  8. omgcat

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    as someone who is a professional in the computer science industry, I agree, all of this shit is amazingly laughable. i'm still trying to find out who is verifying the emails. supposedly it is someone involved in the chain. oh wait, there isn't a named source. guess anonymous sources are OK to use.

    If we can trust the anonymous source for these emails, we can also trust the anonymous source that said trump called the military members losers and suckers.

    the number of false emergencies being manufactured by the right is crazy. does anyone remember the migrant caravan that was supposed to terrorize America? what ever happened to that? same with the BLM members supposedly burning down everything in sight? oh thats right, it's bullshit.

    This summer’s Black Lives Matter protesters were overwhelmingly peaceful, our research finds – "In short, our data suggest that 96.3 percent of events involved no property damage or police injuries, and in 97.7 percent of events, no injuries were reported among participants, bystanders or police."
     
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  9. UltraSUPRA

    UltraSUPRA No Hope, No Escape, No Mask
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    99+% of COVID patients survive.
     
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  10. Lacius

    OP Lacius GBAtemp Legend
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    219,000 Americans are dead. Don't be disingenuous.
     
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  11. Joom

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    If his age is correct, he's probably one of these neo-con kiddies who gets on TikTok and shouts the N word to show how edgy he is. Either that, or he's just another troll like the rest. Regardless, I don't expect a 15 year old, suburban kid to have a grasp on any of this.
     
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    I hope he gets his act together before the real world punches him in the face. 99% sounds good, but that's still 3500000 dead once everyone in america gets it, and that very well could be him, his parents, his siblings, his cousins, his grand parents, aunts/uncles, ect. you're rolling the fucking dice, and risking potentially your whole family.
     
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    I don't think they'll ever care. They think since Trump can get high out of his mind on steroids and babble incoherently about how young and strong he is on national TV, they'll receive the exact same experimental cocktail he did. And if a family member dies, they'll blame it on a pre-existing condition. It's like if they shoot someone, and they blame their bleeding out and death on having an untreated bullet hole, not because they shot them.
     
  14. monkeyman4412

    monkeyman4412 Gbatemp's moronic trash
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    but muh freedoms! The LeFtIsTs out to take our freedoms and oppressing us with masks and science.
     
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  15. KingVamp

    KingVamp Haaah-hahahaha!
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    Gbatemp is so funny. Both the right and left people just seem to come out of the woodwork, somehow one after the other.
     
  16. omgcat

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    there aren't any "middle" people left since 2012. at this point the name of the game is voter turnout and voter suppression. the right does everything they can to suppress the vote and make people apathetic, because if they don't they would never win another election.
     
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    Next they say driver licenses are oppressing them. Oh wait.



    I wouldn't say that. This isn't a jab or anything, but I doubt most left leaning people here are calling themselves socialist.
     
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    what i mean by no one in the "middle" is that everyone knows who they are voting for by now, there are like 1000 people in the USA that are undecided. there is this huge focus on grabbing these mythical undecided voters, that the campaigns flat out forget about enthusiasm measurements. this is what has been killing the left, a concerted effort by the right to drive up voter apathy, on top of efforts to prevent people from voting. so instead of driving up enthusiasm, the democratic party spends millions on trying to capture less than 1% of the voter base, when they could win just by increasing voter turn out by 15%.
     
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    First, as a common person outside what they have already done. (Reached out to another that was one of the recipients on a multi recipient message) you cannot truly verify the validity of these email messages out side of the fact that they totally match up time line wise and contain a lot of personal emails that match up to people and personalities and other outside events that reflect reality.

    To suggest they are fake is just a feeling/guess. None of us have access to the messages in their original form on that hard drive. I don't believe it is normal to provide details at that low of a level in situations like this.

    They have already confirmed that on at least one very damning email it is legitimate because of confirmation from another party on that email. That is good enough to indicate there is something here, and there likely will be further confirmation from others in the days to come.

    2nd.

    Every single one of those email messages should have all of its metadata associated with it.

    Which will contain all the message headers (x-headers)

    Rudy Giuliani is a seasoned attorney. The moment he had that hard drive he would have had experts confirm the validity of the data before moving forward. They would have checked the meta data on each of these messages to confirm everything looked legitimate.

    x-headers for each and every email will show it's path from who sent it, in many cases systems that processed the message along its way and the path it took to get to Hunter Biden.

    You can pretty much guarantee all of that has been verified, the experts would look at the different providers mail servers that relayed the messages on their way to Hunter, confirmed times/dates in these x-headers all looked legitimate.

    If you believe that Rudy got this hard drive and has done no follow up with experts with all of the data on it before moving forward then you don't know how attorneys work.

    This is the real deal, and the the democrats are only going to make it worse on themselves pushing some fake Russian narrative on this.

    For example, take the 1 single most incriminating email where a lunch is arranged after a meeting with Joe and Hunters Ukrainian associates. If from the x-headers it can be shown that email servers abc.gmail.com with IP xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx processed that email from the sender on xxx date and time, and it was sent to abd.gmail.com with IP xxx.xxx.xxx on xxx date and time and then was sent to hosta.hotmail.com with IP xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx on xxx date and time which was sent to hostb.hotmail.com with IP xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx date and time before being delivered to Hunter Biden. (Everything I listed is an example, I don't recall the mail providers involved with this particular message)

    If this were to turn into an investigation. They can file a discovery subpoena to both Microsoft and Google to confirm if they have logs on their end correlating these messages going through their MTA's on those dates and times from the servers I listed above in my example, and even if they don't have the logs any more they can confirm that all the servers were accurate based on name/IP etc.. If anything matches up, boom. That's all it takes.

    Summary.

    Anyone saying these emails are not real is only guessing and has no real way to dispute the validity without the original in their hands. And if you think Rudy Giuliani as a long time attorney has not had all of this verified as much as can be, then you just don't get how this stuff works.

    And we already have 1 party confirming the validity of one of the damning emails.
     
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  20. omgcat

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    who is this person? also, you wouldn't be looking at x-headers for to/from information based on the SMTP protocol. standard message headers contain all that info already, x-headers track information about what happens to mail by the user or experimental features, not how it got there. if you need a refresher, or in my opinion a chance to look at it for the first time, you can see the headers and their protocols here. another thing to watch out for is that SMTP header manipulation is easy, like known for 20+ years easy. I'm not quite sure you are informed enough to talk about this stuff in a technical capacity.
     
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