Do many people really HATE Apple that much?

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Meh...I guess so. The guy said it doesn't even boot up to an OS, but it does give you bragging rights.
"Hey gang, I just bought a $100,000 old, broken computer off the internets!" :yay:

Everyone else: :rofl: / :wtf: / :mellow: / :unsure: / :O

I hope dunking $100,000 on old piece of broken tech is worth the bragging :ha:

Kudos to the auction winner ;)

It's a freaking PROTOTYPE...

However... I just heard that this one might not be the only one that exists....
It's a broken prototype of an old computer then :P

But I see you're point though. It's very rare and should command an exorbitant price. But that doesn't change the fact that it's broken and unserviceable. At the least, the auction winner would hope to sell it off at a higher price

Where did it say that it was broken? It isn't... It's a prototype, so It requires a prototype OS...
 

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Where did it say that it was broken? It isn't... It's a prototype, so It requires a prototype OS...
My bad, I must have misread "Beyond rare" as "Beyond repair" at the auction page :rofl:

CONDITION:
Computer powers on, chimes, then the typical gray screen appears with a blinking question mark inside of a
floppy disk icon appears, indicating to insert a boot disk. Keyboard and mouse have been tested on a standard
Macintosh 128k computer and work perfectly. Lisa-formatted Twiggy disk, shown in photo below, (Not included)
does not boot this computer.
Well, it still seems to be unserviceable because you'll need a boot disk that the auctioneer didn't include/ doesn't possess

If he does have it, I bet he'd charge another 100 grand for it
 

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Where did it say that it was broken? It isn't... It's a prototype, so It requires a prototype OS...
My bad, I must have misread "Beyond rare" as "Beyond repair" at the auction page :rofl:

CONDITION:
Computer powers on, chimes, then the typical gray screen appears with a blinking question mark inside of a
floppy disk icon appears, indicating to insert a boot disk. Keyboard and mouse have been tested on a standard
Macintosh 128k computer and work perfectly. Lisa-formatted Twiggy disk, shown in photo below, (Not included)
does not boot this computer.
Well, it still seems to be unserviceable because you'll need a boot disk that the auctioneer didn't include/ doesn't possess

If he does have it, I bet he'd charge another 100 grand for it

Apparently, He got the machine for.... Free....

Theoretically, you could hook up an external floppy drive and boot it from there...
 

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I just don't like how madly overpriced they are.

For me, its not really the pricing, but getting the most for my money, for example, getting a PC with better specs than a Mac, for the same price. Most high end android smartphones are in the 200 us dollars range, same as a standard 16gb (newest iPhone model here).
 

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I really hate them for just trying to sue the competition so that they have the only similar product out there. They also steal ideas for others.
Here are some examples:
https://www.pcworld.com/article/229993/did_apple_steal_a_college_kids_wifi_sync_app.html
http://androidandme.com/2011/12/news/apple-provides-ridiculous-list-of-changes-samsung-can-make-to-avoid-legal-trouble/
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/03/22/us-apple-amazon-lawsuit-idUKTRE72L07I20110322
It is things like this that really bug me, and get on my nerves. Also when people say that "IT JUST WERKS" without proving why, and the fanbase's refusal to listen to any solid proof why X is better than their iWhatever.
 
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Apple is an overly-aggressive and self-righteous company. They chase anyone who releases something even remotely similar to their hardware like dogs while at the same time they "borrow" ideas from their competition, they had the gut to belittle Intel in the age of Pentium II and look at them now - a few years later when they realized that they can't fit any more obsolete G cores, they released a campaign to welcome the Intel processors on Mac's. They praise their system for being safe while in fact it's just that nobody gives a sh*t about it. They're the only company who thinks that it's possible to patent a black rectangle. The only company that thinks abstract ideas like "icon" can be intellectual property. They sell obsolete hardware for more than it's worth and they release corporate spyware such as iTunes just to make the life of their customers more annoying. They're also the only company which tried to convince people that their product is totally not an mp3 player. "It's an iPOD!". Do I hate them? I pity them and their customers. Enjoy your system stability. No thanks to Apple, thanks to UNIX. You know, because Android is stolen technology that deserves to be destroyed because it's based on Linux, MacOS isn't because it's based on UNIX. Hypocrites.
You sound like you pity everything created in this world.

Still, I get your point. I have nothing to say because I don't study so in-depth about their company/work system etc. Plus I actually like their products, another reason why I have nothing to say.
I have no idea how you came to that conclusion, unless Apple and their customers are now defined as "everything created in this world".
Also, good post Foxi4, you summarized my opinion on Apple entirely.
 

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Also when people say that "IT JUST WERKS" without proving why, and the fanbase's refusal to listen to any solid proof why X is better than their iWhatever.
I was called a nerd the other day because I didn't have an iPhone (anymore). The kid ended up ranting about how great apple was and how everyone should buy everything apple for our own good. He has no idea what a jailbreak I'd whatsoever, and all he knows is that my phone is a "Droid".
 

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Apple is an overly-aggressive and self-righteous company. They chase anyone who releases something even remotely similar to their hardware like dogs while at the same time they "borrow" ideas from their competition, they had the gut to belittle Intel in the age of Pentium II and look at them now - a few years later when they realized that they can't fit any more obsolete G cores, they released a campaign to welcome the Intel processors on Mac's. They praise their system for being safe while in fact it's just that nobody gives a sh*t about it. They're the only company who thinks that it's possible to patent a black rectangle. The only company that thinks abstract ideas like "icon" can be intellectual property. They sell obsolete hardware for more than it's worth and they release corporate spyware such as iTunes just to make the life of their customers more annoying. They're also the only company which tried to convince people that their product is totally not an mp3 player. "It's an iPOD!". Do I hate them? I pity them and their customers. Enjoy your system stability. No thanks to Apple, thanks to UNIX. You know, because Android is stolen technology that deserves to be destroyed because it's based on Linux, MacOS isn't because it's based on UNIX. Hypocrites.
You sound like you pity everything created in this world.

Still, I get your point. I have nothing to say because I don't study so in-depth about their company/work system etc. Plus I actually like their products, another reason why I have nothing to say.
I have no idea how you came to that conclusion, unless Apple and their customers are now defined as "everything created in this world".
Also, good post Foxi4, you summarized my opinion on Apple entirely.
That wasn't a conclusion. I was talking about his tone.
 

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I honestly do hate them. Its not as much as for what they are but what they stand for, to me Apple has always been your big ol, corporate who makes shitloads of cash by staying as the "popular" guys and selling total bullshit. I mean have you SEEN the iPad 2? Its a flippin iPad with features that I could have gotten from a simple iPad update, instead they market a device which only runs on a updated OS and sell it for like 300 bucks a piece. iOS sucks anyway. Only Mac is the only respectable thing they make simply because it actually is a better OS for businesses and schools then Windows.
 

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I personally would be all over an iPad if apple stopped being douches and stuck microsd or sd support in there.

16gb and now a better than hd screen, yeah... bottleneck much?
 

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I personally would be all over an iPad if apple stopped being douches and stuck microsd or sd support in there.

16gb and now a better than hd screen, yeah... bottleneck much?

I honestly think they could have had the retina display when they made the ipad 2. The "new" ipad doesn't seem like a real upgrade.
 

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no microSD and front camera is still crap..wish they made improvements in those areas.
I don't think they ever will add any external storage unless it's a branded Apple format. It's just not their style - they like to embed "everything they need" into their products and release a revision whenether new hardware is needed.
 
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Apple always made me think of the Apple of Eden. Hmmm temptation....

My new HTC One X will do though :) Apple just always gave a wrong feeling. Having 3 iPod touches and a iPod Classic 160GB I just don't like the quality as much as my HTC One X or even my Samsung Google Nexus S.
 

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Wanting to appear "in the know", so they bash on stuff they see other people bashing on in an attempt to look like they fit in with "the smart crowd".
You and I fall into this category, albeit we do a good job with justifying our claims as "smart" people with actual facts and sources.

I hate the company because Apple thinks it knows what I want better than I do.

I hate the company because Apple is too arrogant to admit their mistakes. ("You're holding it wrong.")

I hate the company because Apple has a significant markup on their computers.

I hate the company because it is "innovating" technology in areas I really don't like. I can't stand the whole tablet craze. It's just a big phone with poor game controls.

The only thing I like about Apple now is that I get to watch it decline into Microsoftian senility now that they no longer have Jobs to say "No" to bad designs.
It does. They are. They do. You're ignorant. You're dreaming.

Nobody hates Apple. People do dislike their business practices and their [lack of] originality however.
Needs more me.
They ARE. As of this date, There are Zero (known) viruses for Mac OS X. Trojans abound, though.
Inside, like many before me, I'm dying of laughter. Moving on.

I've used PCs, Amigas, Atari, Commodore, and yes Apple. I hate Apple products the most. I just don't like their architecture and how they opperate. I don't like the handicapped one button mouse, I don't like their hard drive. I don't like their networking, nor their operating interface. It just seems like one big pain in the ass compared to the PC marketplace. And it seems like things work better with the PC market.
And there is a ton more software for the PC market as well. But that is just my opinion.

i can't believe people still bitch about one button.
I do, even though modern Mac mice actually have 3 buttons now (left side, right side, and the scroll button). I don't use a Mac (although I've got two in my house and have worked with them several times in the past), so it doesn't bug me. But the iDevices only having one button really gets to me. Is it really too much trouble to add a back button at the bottom that doesn't throw you back to Springboard? I know many apps have the back button in the corner, but that's only when the bar doesn't get hidden by the apps.

My take on Apple (as an owner of Macs through the ages, an iPod Touch 4G, iPad 2, and Motorola Razr V3im (iTunes equiped phone))? First, iTunes. I hate iTunes. Ever since I had to use one with my Razr to put music on it (and it was limited to 100 songs despite upgrading the mSD card) and saw how slow it was on my laptop, I've hated it. Even now with a Core i5-2500k @ 4.2Ghz and an OCZ Vertex 3 SSD, it is still friggin' slow. I know it's faster on Mac, but that has a problem of its own. No matter how powerful the Mac (I'd wager even that $10k prototype would experience the same), if I plug in my old iPod Classic, it will crash within 5 minutes. The only way I've ever gotten it to work without crashing, is to connect via a Mac Studio Pro (USB equipped monitor). iTunes is just an example of bad programming that never got fixed in Apple's quest to stuff more features into it than anybody else. I also don't like how you're supposed to use iTunes to import your songs into your phone, rather than the old drag and drop. Maybe if you spend a lot of time organizing your life's music on iTunes it would be convenient, but for someone migratory like myself, who tends to reinstall Windows every year and start fresh with apps like iTunes, I lose my library every time and have to start over. My Music folder never changes its layout (Artist - Album - Songs) but iTunes will not recognise that.

The next thing I hate is exactly what Apple takes the most pride in. Their app store. Trying to find the "best app" is not an easy process. Trying to find "good apps" is also tricky when you're expected to pay to even try half of them (and not all apps find their way to certain hacked resources). What I'm left with is the free section (hit and miss, and too many limits for "trial editions" to get a real trial). I'd go into a lot more detail, but since it's a similar problem with Android, I'll just leave it there.

As for the iOS interface... simple is good. It works for them. Power users will prefer Android (unless they can find the right jailbreak tweaks, but that's a task in and of itself). Now if only they could get the software (iTunes) to be just as simple (at transferring stuff to the iDevice)...

Price... it's been addressed, but the price isn't all that bad. £400 for a powerful tablet is a good price. £300 for a discounted but still capable tablet is a good price. Sure, £80 per SSD upgrade (16GB to 32GB, and again to 64GB) is ridiculous when you can get a 90GB SSD for the same price or less, but the same story takes place with HDDs in Mac upgrades. The hardware isn't badly priced, but the storage is. Then there's the Apple Tax, but there are ways around that to the informed shopper. For those who commented about "normal" or "non-techy" or "less informed" consumers... that is literally 90% of the people who walk through high streets and take the time to look at the shop windows. All it takes is a flashy product, a well presented salesman, a fluid sales pitch, and the financial means, and they will buy anything (I could even sell my gold plated pen if I wanted, but I'd rather sell the diamond and sapphire engagement ring in my Window for £1000 after discount). Now the fun part is dealing with the people who actually know what the product is, how to use it, and how much it really costs. They don't want to buy an iPhone for £600, but a salesman has to explain to them why they are willing to pay for the VAT and Apple Tax - and that's typically the security that comes with the warranty... if they break it, they get to speak to the friendly people at customer service who will make them feel good about parting with £120 for repairs.

Lastly, the community. I'm going to run on a limb and say "What community? You mean those idiots and fanboys who will flame you if you say anything anti-Apple?". I'm not anti-Apple, although I do hate them as a company for some of their policies and especially for them trying to sue Samsung for their Galaxy phones. I'm not anti-iDevice although I do hate iPhones. I'm not even anti-fanboy even though I did find it hilarious when iFish discovered his newfound love in the Nexus and Android. I'm just someone who is surrounded by technology, who sees the pros and cons in all of it, who makes the best use of all tools available, and enjoys a good troll getting burned on the internet.

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