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Joe Biden is now officially the 46th President of the United States of America

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In other news, the education secretary is cancelling student loans again.
In all fairness, there's a tax hike coming up, so *someone* is paying those loans off, just under the guise of higher taxation. I bet Americans can't wait to pay for the mistakes of thousands of 20-somethings who picked majors that only enable them to acquire the prestigious position of "professionally homeless". That's neither here nor there though.
 
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Giving an opinion that isn't tickling Joe bidens balls is an offense apparently.
Nah, legitimate criticism is fine, presidents are not meant to be deified like rock stars or cult leaders. The problem comes when you're really reaching for any excuse to blast him just because you know the last guy was a fucking dumpster fire, and you're in a hurry to extinguish the remaining embers so that people can begin the process of forgetting. Well sorry, but Trump's presidency isn't about to be memory-holed, and neither are the 500K dead Americans forever attached to it.
 
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Nah, legitimate criticism is fine, presidents are not meant to be deified like rock stars or cult leaders.
Absolutely, I try to remain skeptical of all of them. It's the reason I can't stand "vote blue no matter who" or the trump movement. People should support ideas and policy positions. Instead, we get blind figure worship like Trump and Qanon. Politics in this country is so screwed its almost not even worth talking about anymore.
 

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We're not gonna go to war with Russia you derp. We're just gonna hack them back at an undisclosed time and on an undisclosed scale. Give 'em a taste of their own medicine and maybe seize some of Putin's trillions of dollars in the process.
Maybe not directly, but it's certainly set up as if to remain a possibility. The nonsense situation in Syria is like a twisted up triad of hot, cold, and proxy wars all at once. It seems to be a war between Israel and Iran within Syria at the heart of it, although Turkey's position may be legitimately against Syria itself. The US is there on behalf of Israel, Russia on behalf of Iran/Syria, but it's so far largely cold as far as any direct conflict between US/Israel and Russia goes. The whole thing is of course very stupid and very much instigated by Israel.
 

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Maybe not directly, but it's certainly set up as if to remain a possibility. The nonsense situation in Syria is like a twisted up triad of hot, cold, and proxy wars all at once. It seems to be a war between Israel and Iran within Syria at the heart of it, although Turkey's position may be legitimately against Syria itself. The US is there on behalf of Israel, Russia on behalf of Iran/Syria, but it's so far largely cold as far as any direct conflict between US/Israel and Russia goes. The whole thing is of course very stupid and very much instigated by Israel.
I'd say Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Russia all stand to gain in different ways from the US starting a war with Iran. Thankfully I don't see Biden taking that bait, so they're gonna have to wait at least four more years for their little proxy war.
 

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I'm not the one who regularly posts unsubstantiated conspiracy nonsense that has repeatedly been debunked.

Your post wasn't as clever as you think it was.

It wasn't supposed to be clever. It was a genuine "wtf".

Thank you for the %10 of your post that was actual contribution.
 

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Assuming you're telling the truth, more likely than not they received provisional ballots, which aren't guaranteed to be counted toward the official totals.
Assuming you are correct and those ballots didn't get counted (which is weird considering the huge ammount of voter turn in that has never happened before), it still doesn't change the fact that an election like this one has never been done like this in any known and sane democracy. This didn't happen even in the civil war. It's fishy at best, and any sane democracy would have repeated the elections with this sort of fraudulent mail in ballots invalidated in favor of how it has always been done before (requiring the person to register and issue a formal petition for mail in voting rather than sending ballots to every living being, including pets).

Anyways, since you don't believe me with the idea of inmigrants receiving ballots when they shouldn't be able to vote, here's a video of a widely known Cuban youtuber who received a ballot (and his wife too), despite not having nationality (warning, it's in Spanish):


Here's another video (in English) explaining why this method of mail in voting has never been done before and why it shouldn't have been allowed:

Please check the comments, it's not just one or two people, but many having received illegal ballots for dead family members and even pets.
 
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Assuming you are correct and those ballots didn't get counted (which is weird considering the huge ammount of voter turn in that has never happened before), it still doesn't change the fact that an election like this one has never been done like this in any known and sane democracy. This didn't happen even in the civil war. It's fishy at best, and any sane democracy would have repeated the elections with this sort of fraudulent mail in ballots invalidated in favor of how it has always been done before (requiring the person to register and issue a formal petition for mail in voting rather than sending ballots to every living being, including pets).

Anyways, since you don't believe me with the idea of inmigrants receiving ballots when they shouldn't be able to vote, here's a video of a widely known Cuban youtuber who received a ballot (and his wife too), despite not having nationality (warning, it's in Spanish):


Here's another video (in English) explaining why this method of mail in voting has never been done before and why it shouldn't have been allowed:

Please check the comments, it's not just one or two people, but many having received illegal ballots for dead family members and even pets.

Receiving mail ballots isn't the same thing as successfully casting mail-in votes and having them counted.
 
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Receiving mail ballots isn't the same thing as successfully casting mail-in votes and having them counted.
You just copy pasted the same thing the other guy said, you added nothing new. As I said, even if only valid ballots were counted (which I highly doubt), it still doesn't change the fact that ballots were sent ILLEGALLY, making the entire election completely different from what has been done until now in every democracy and very different from the entire history of US elections, stinking of fraud and raising valid concern.
If you can spend 4 years talking about Russian intervention in the elections (WITHOUT any evidence or reason), you should also be critical of this election, otherwise you're just a hypocrict and you don't really care about democracy, you just want your lord and savior to win no matter what (which is the total opposite of a democracy).
 
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You just copy pasted the same thing the other guy said, you added nothing new. As I said, even if only valid ballots were counted (which I highly doubt), it still doesn't change the fact that ballots were sent ILLEGALLY, making the entire election completely different from what has been done until now in every democracy and very different from the entire history of US elections, stinking of fraud and raising valid concern.
If you can spend 4 years talking about Russian intervention in the elections (WITHOUT any evidence or reason), you should also be critical of this election, otherwise you're just a hypocrict and you don't really care about democracy, you just want your lord and savior to win no matter what (which is the total opposite of a democracy).
Russia demonstrably interfered in the 2016 and 2020 elections.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2020_United_States_elections

There are safeguards in place to prevent mail-in ballots from unregistered voters from being counted. You act as though people who vote by mail don't have to input various pieces of information proving their identities as lawfully registered voters. There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election, and there's no evidence any significant amount of mail-in votes from unregistered voters were counted. Feel free to come back when you find some. Ballots allegedly arriving in some people's mailboxes by mistake isn't it.
 

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Do you even read your own sources? To quote from the wikipedia article you just linked:

"The Special Counsel's report, made public in April 2019, examined numerous contacts between the Trump campaign and Russian officials but concluded that there was insufficient evidence to bring any conspiracy or coordination charges against Trump or his associates."

One thing is Putin pulling his strings and propaganda machine to try to favor a candidate of a foreign country (yes, he does this, he does it to everyone, and so does your goverment, get over it), and a totally different story is to say that Trump's campaign was directly tied to Russia's intervention, which has absolutely no proof whatsoever.

There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election, and there's no evidence any significant amount of mail-in votes from unregistered voters were counted.
There's also no evidence of Trump using Russian to win the elections (he didn't, it was useless, Hilary wasn't going to win and you know it). However, Russian intervention happened, and illegally sending ballots to people with no checks in place also happened, we just don't have proof of neither Trump nor Biden having anything to do with it, and quite frankly you'll never find it, and if anything all this just shows that the elections are weak and needs some big time revisioning and reinforcement, but I guess you don't want that because this time around it was your feudal lord who won the election so you're happy now and won't talk about election issues anymore unless the opposing feudal lord wins.
I stand by my point, you don't give two sh*ts about democracy or fair elections, you just want your lord to win and at whatever cost (burning cities down, censoring opposing views in media, insulting and calling names to anyone who dares question your views or dares to have their own view of life...)
 
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Do you even read your own sources? To quote from the wikipedia article you just linked:

"The Special Counsel's report, made public in April 2019, examined numerous contacts between the Trump campaign and Russian officials but concluded that there was insufficient evidence to bring any conspiracy or coordination charges against Trump or his associates."

One thing is Putin pulling his strings and propaganda machine to try to favor a candidate of a foreign country (yes, he does this, he does it to everyone, and so does your goverment, get over it), and a totally different story is to say that Trump's campaign was directly tied to Russia's intervention, which has absolutely no proof whatsoever.


There's also no evidence of Trump using Russian to win the elections (he didn't, it was useless, Hilary wasn't going to win and you know it). However, Russian intervention happened, and illegally sending ballots to people with no checks in place also happened, we just don't have proof of neither Trump nor Biden having anything to do with it, and quite frankly you'll never find it, and if anything all this just shows that the elections are weak and needs some big time revisioning and reinforcement, but I guess you don't want that because this time around it was your feudal lord who won the election so you're happy now and won't talk about election issues anymore unless the opposing feudal lord wins.
I stand by my point, you don't give two sh*ts about democracy or fair elections, you just want your lord to win and at whatever cost (burning cities down, censoring opposing views in media, insulting and calling names to anyone who dares question your views or dares to have their own view of life...)
As I already said, Russia demonstrably meddled in the 2016 and 2020 elections. Whether or not Trump colluded with Russia is irrelevant to the fact that you were wrong when you said they didn't.

I'll talk about widespread election fraud when there's evidence of widespread election fraud. Everything up until now has been unsubstantiated, or worse, debunked.
 
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You act as though people who vote by mail don't have to input various pieces of information proving their identities as lawfully registered voters.
Ummm... you don't. Once a ballot is received in the mail, the only thing you need to do is fill in the bubbles and sign the cover sheet. I've been voting absentee for decades, how about you?
 

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Ummm... you don't. Once a ballot is received in the mail, the only thing you need to do is fill in the bubbles and sign the cover sheet. I've been voting absentee for decades, how about you?
If you don't mind me asking, in which state are you registered to vote?
 
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