Metroid Prime 4 scrapped, development starting fresh, Nintendo reveals

Kioku · Jan 25, 2019

The Real Jdbye said:
That's funny... Where were they when Other M and Federation Force were being made? That met their quality standards but this doesn't? It must be really bad.

It's a main game, not a spin off like FF so higher standards make sense.

Owenge · Jan 25, 2019

Metroid 4: battle royal edition

nolimits59 · Jan 25, 2019

Grmmish said:
Retro Studios?

WHY WEREN'T THEY THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE!? -.-
I'm sure we'd be getting it at the end of this year or middle of next if they were there in the first place. >_____>

Also.. Why not just throw some images on the screen of the scrapped production? XD All of that interesting work going to be gone...
To top it off... I really wonder what was WRONG with the game?
Was the graphics not well?
Was it super slow? ?_?
I am skeptical to believe it is because the game was not living up to Metroid fans' expectations because apparently Other M "Lived up to our expectations and was correct, quality-wise them to launch it"... Certainly, right?
either way, maybe they have learned from their mistakes? Maybe not... XD But hey. Maybe.

Maybe because of tropical freeze switch ?

dunno
And Other M fitted Other M, this a Prime episode so OF COURSE they're making it fits the franchise. (Stop spitting on Other M because on its own it's a good game)
Nintendo Dev teams are always good (more like freakin gods) with their own consoles so it's pretty sure it's not because of graphics or performances.

SANIC · Jan 25, 2019

Owenge said:
Metroid 4: battle royal edition

*Metroid Prime 4: Battle Royale
Metroid 4 is Metroid Fusion

grey72 · Jan 25, 2019

Euphonique said:
For Nintendo and a japanese company it‘s a huge step to annouce their failure and apologize for it. I really appreciate that.
Other companies like EA would release it anyway, even if it‘s crap. And Nintendo want‘s to make it better.
I really looking forward MP4, and I think these are good news. I can wait and the game deserves more development time.

This, with the mobile games and paid online for the switch, I was afraid ninty would go down the same path as Sony and M$. This is a reassuring move though.

The Real Jdbye · Jan 25, 2019

Memoir said:
It's a main game, not a spin off like FF so higher standards make sense.

I don't really agree with that. There's no reason why it should be acceptable for a spinoff to be worse than a main series game. It being different is one thing, and maybe to some people that's worse.

Euphonique · Jan 25, 2019

grey72 said:
This, with the mobile games and paid online for the switch, I was afraid ninty would go down the same path as Sony and M$. This is a reassuring move though.

I feel like you. I‘ve gotten really angry because of some of their last decisions. But this makes me hope again.

gman666 · Jan 25, 2019

Honestly, a move they should have done from the very beginning. WTF were they thinking making a Prime game without the Prime developers? Retro studios is an essential aspect to the series. I just hope this doesn't get stuck in development hell for 3+ years.

Grmmish · Jan 25, 2019

nolimits59 said:
Maybe because of tropical freeze switch ? dunno
And Other M fitted Other M, this a Prime episode so OF COURSE they're making it fits the franchise. (Stop spitting on Other M because on its own it's a good game)
Nintendo Dev teams are always good (more like freakin gods) with their own consoles so it's pretty sure it's not because of graphics or performances.

Prime is in the Metroid franchise. O-o I don't understand your argument... But I won't throw this into a war. Other M sucked. But the game wsn't broken so if that considers it a good game, then so be it. But the story was bad even if it WASN'T a Metroid game. And many other things were bad even if it was a standalone game... So yeeeaah.... On it's own it's not really a good game as well.
Either way, what about Tropical Freeze on Switch? Was Retro involved with that port? ?_?
And I KNOW it's not graphics and performance. That's why I said. Other M had good graphics and good performance. So it CAN'T be that... It must have been something else.... And I just wonder what it was that was not living up to the expectations. And I'm wondering if it was similar to Other M and Nintendo saw that. LOL

And to top it all off. No. Nintendo is not god. I know they ensure they have good quality in their games, but their decision making sometimes is certainly not gods and sometimes the games they publish aren't so "Godly" either... But their main games usually are very nice quality wise.

Bimmel · Jan 25, 2019

KiiWii said:
I wonder if any beta footage will escape.

I’ve been looking forward to this since I finished MP3.

I hates the other one on WiiU and 3ds.

The WiiU had no Metroid Game, sadly. ;-)

Justinde75 · Jan 25, 2019

I love how I was sad at first, but then I was 20 times happier when I read that they are now working with retro

heyd_s · Jan 25, 2019

game shouldn't have even been announced to begin with, everyone knew nintendo had jackshit when they teased it, and why the hell did they partner with bandai nanco who has zero experience developing fps/3d platforming games?

Grmmish · Jan 25, 2019

The Real Jdbye said:
I don't really agree with that. There's no reason why it should be acceptable for a spinoff to be worse than a main series game. It being different is one thing, and maybe to some people that's worse.

Not a reason at all to be low quality.

But it IS a reason for it to not be the same theme as the other games.
Example: If Capcom made the Chronicles (Resident Evil) series a spinoff game, it certainly is a reason for it to not have puzzles in it which make Resident Evil what it is. They can just say "It is all turned around because it's not a main game."
But they can't say "It sucks because it's not a main game."
They CAN, however, say "It sucks to be apart of the Resident Evil series, but it's not a main game so do not compare it to the series it's only universally apart of gameplay wise."

nolimits59 · Jan 25, 2019

Grmmish said:
Prime is in the Metroid franchise. O-o I don't understand your argument... But I won't throw this into a war. Other M sucked. But the game wsn't broken so if that considers it a good game, then so be it. But the story was bad even if it WASN'T a Metroid game. And many other things were bad even if it was a standalone game... So yeeeaah.... On it's own it's not really a good game as well.
Either way, what about Tropical Freeze on Switch? Was Retro involved with that port? ?_?
And I KNOW it's not graphics and performance. That's why I said. Other M had good graphics and good performance. So it CAN'T be that... It must have been something else.... And I just wonder what it was that was not living up to the expectations. And I'm wondering if it was similar to Other M and Nintendo saw that. LOL

And to top it all off. No. Nintendo is not god. I know they ensure they have good quality in their games, but their decision making sometimes is certainly not gods and sometimes the games they publish aren't so "Godly" either... But their main games usually are very nice quality wise.

Dunno, i took Other M as a standalone game, i put away my Metroid and Metroid Prime love away and considerate it as a kind of "indie game" about Samus and it lived to that expectation.
I said Nintendo Devs are god with their hardware, thats all x), and they're, no one can handle their own their own creation like they do, this is insane that breath of the wild runs on the WiiU with the detail it got x).
And yes, retro ported tropical freeze on the Switch =).
Oh and also i forgot, Retro is working on another title suposed to be a star fox spinoff

The Real Jdbye · Jan 25, 2019

Grmmish said:
Not a reason at all to be low quality.

But it IS a reason for it to not be the same theme as the other games.
Example: If Capcom made the Chronicles (Resident Evil) series a spinoff game, it certainly is a reason for it to not have puzzles in it which make Resident Evil what it is. They can just say "It is all turned around because it's not a main game."
But they can't say "It sucks because it's not a main game."
They CAN, however, say "It sucks to be apart of the Resident Evil series, but it's not a main game so do not compare it to the series it's only universally apart of gameplay wise."

My point exactly. But a lot of spinoffs just feel halfassed. I generally avoid them for that reason. Feels like a lot of the time it's just an excuse to sell a lesser game.

b17bomber · Jan 25, 2019

Anyone else think this is why there hasn't been a direct yet, that 2019 is gonna be a pretty down year for the Switch now

Grmmish · Jan 25, 2019

nolimits59 said:
Dunno, i took Other M as a standalone game, i put away my Metroid and Metroid Prime love away and considerate it as a kind of "indie game" about Samus and it lived to that expectation.
I said Nintendo Devs are god with their hardware, thats all x), and they're, no one can handle their own their own creation like they do, this is insane that breath of the wild runs on the WiiU with the detail it got x).
And yes, retro ported tropical freeze on the Switch =).

LOL I did the exact same thing. Before I bought it I was well aware of the horrid hate for the game. But I DIDN'T KNOW WHY. And I was happy to figure out for myself. I played that game as if t was not apart of the series and, believe it or not, the storyline literally makes no sense. Metroid or not.
Phantoon being there for no reason or not. It literally made no sense. But that is only 30% of the problem. XD The only good thing about the game was that is functions as intended and looks pretty. Even the gameplay as eh... But it definitely wasn't BAD gameplay wise.

But anyways, did Nintendo think they did a bad job or something? Or did they have a heated conversation or they signed off after doing one last game or something???

I get it. It is true. If it's not a Nintendo game on the Nitnendo console, it's a trash indie game/port, a GOOD port- but still a port, a bad game overall, ocassionally a good game and then ONCE IN AWHILE a great game.

On Nintendo consoles, the goodness of the console as far as games go USUALLY are Nintendo themselves. :/

Rahkeesh · Jan 25, 2019

b17bomber said:
Anyone else think this is why there hasn't been a direct yet, that 2019 is gonna be a pretty down year for the Switch now

The year of Fire Emblem, Pokemon, and Animal Crossing?

gman666 · Jan 25, 2019

heyd_s said:
game shouldn't have even been announced to begin with, everyone knew nintendo had jackshit when they teased it, and why the hell did they partner with bandai nanco who has zero experience developing fps/3d platforming games?

Agreed.. Nintendo tried to make an american game with japanese developers. Retro Studios and its Prime series had a lot of design choices that Japanese developers would not even attempt. Prime was a perfect example of what american developers had to offer for Nintendo's IP.

Grmmish · Jan 25, 2019

The Real Jdbye said:
My point exactly. But a lot of spinoffs just feel halfassed. I generally avoid them for that reason. Feels like a lot of the time it's just an excuse to sell a lesser game.

Sadly it is true.
Money is money these days. usually the big company gives the rights to some other company that does not know their stuff, especially around the ways the original company did with that franchise, and makes a half-assed game. Sometimes it's not because they did not put effort, sometimes they put all effort, but because those undertable companies were paid and that was their best, then usually all of the publicity goes to the main company. Look at Umbrella Corps. for example. I don't think Capcom made that. I have no idea who made it. I don't even think it was said how made it. Plus it was made in Unity, why not use RE Engine for RE game?
Capcom threw a little bit of money under the table. Got some cheap guys to make a new game. Called it a spinoff. Let the cash flow in just for having the same name as the main series.

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gman666 said:
Agreed.. Nintendo tried to make an american game with japanese developers. Retro Studios and its Prime series had a lot of design choices that Japanese developers would not even attempt. Prime was a perfect example of what american developers had to offer for Nintendo's IP.

LOL I have no idea where this nationality division is coming from. xD

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