Teens promise to fix "climate change" with great idea

[Julie_Pilgrim]

You'll own nothing, and we'll beat you until you act happy. Welcome to Marxism.

"Everything I don't like is Marxism"

 

[XDel]

I like the Green Peace narrative where they state that Capitalists are so bent on making money that they don't care if there is no Earth around tomorrow to spend it on. Funny stuff.

 

[Seliph]

Alright which one of you necroposted on this awful thread

 

[Julie_Pilgrim]

Alright which one of you necroposted on this awful thread

It appears to have been our good old friend newtimp

 

[Seliph]

It appears to have been our good old friend newtimp

Fantastic

 

[SG854]

It appears to have been our good old friend newtimp

He got suspended again. Dude can't stop getting suspended.

 

[Julie_Pilgrim]

He got suspended again. Dude can't stop getting suspended.

You would think he would've learned his lesson by now

 

[notimp]

So people in here dont want me to update the climate change thread with information that the ECB has now announced, that its mandate is now "price stability of the currency (EUR)" and "climate change" - because of a lesson I should have learned?

I was banned for a week for posting two videos laying out Jeff Bezos media strategy in India, stating, that he liked to associate with people who searched out the company of others because of status, namely actors with the ability to summon crowds of potential consumers, and literally put them into a frenzy.

The lesson I should have learned from that was to "accept authority", according to people who badmouthed me in the discord for complaining.


People in this thread draged me through the mud, for please read it up -

- helping people out here in detail on how climate models are created
- always speaking up against the notion that climate change was a hoax
- posting that the ECB has now conjured up a mandate to print money for climate change

and they did it, because they cant fathom to live in a world, where a thread with a topic title like this is allowed to exist. Even if I didnt create it. The mere reason, that I updated it with current developments on the issue (which by the way will not go away) - to them is a thought crime.

Something is wrong here - and its not the thread title, which by now is refuted about five times, by facts posted in here. (Its not the children, that are doing stuff, ...)

 

[wonkeytonk]

Overpopulation generates all sorts of problems, not just climate change. So this must be a good thing.

 

[Deleted member 514389]

Obviously.
If half the women were against children completly, that'd help tremendously.

Just imagine:
If you have children now, what world will they even grow up in ?
Irresponsible.

Also: Adoption is a (though to realise, but still) thing.

Overpopulation generates of problems, not just climate change. So this must be a good thing.

It's not enough, but if it can be used as "Posterchild" of sorts if it proves to be successful

 

[notimp]

Our daily dose of climate propaganda - here in Austria. Snapshot, of the front page of diepresse.com (one fo the two 'quality' dailys in the country (the conservative one)).

src: https://www.diepresse.com/

Headline article:
Climatekiller owning your own home? "An example of communist paternalistic politics."
Says one of the Local politicians in a region - here is his fight against the 'PR-focused' winners of the energy transition.

Directly followed by:
Who needs to own their own home? A commentary.

Directly followed by:
Owning your own home, as the 'enemy image' of the green party.


Top right - "The people who have fallen through the (social) mesh of society are congregating on Servus TV" (TV station entirely financed by the owner of Red Bull.) A commentary.

Right - "Corona humor is creating community in isolation" (Image: Little Red Riding Hood is getting a ticket for having visited grandma.)


I HATE THE WORLD I'M LIVING IN.


Media manipulates through agenda setting.


(In addition, the Munich Security conference (thats ongoing as we speak) is a bunch of liars - holding motivational speeches teaching people the onethink needed for the next 50 years, they all know that they lie (I can tell) - that also doesnt help.

(edit: WHO now has an advisory group on behavioral science. Please shoot me.)

edit: Bill Gates was the only one (that I cought so far) that didnt lie outright, but sidetracked his answers. At least he doesnt treat his audience as the morons they are seen as.).

Need emotional support right about - now.

 

[notimp]

Naomi Klein (now professor Naomi Klein) - is trying to simplify some stuff again.

Issue - part of her argument doesnt reflect reality.

I think this is a good time to point out that -

This:


This:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveke...hunberg-merkel-backs-decarbonization-by-2050/

and this exists at the same time:
https://neftegazru.com/news/politic...d-merkel-s-position-on-nord-stream-2-project/

For the last point I needed the quotes, and they are flipping hard to find, so I resorted to a russian news source..

Basically:

Germanys reliance on natural gas as an energy source will increase short term, even though energy transition is still the long term goal. Also hydrogen generation - out of natural gas with carbon capture - still is not out of the question, or out of the picture. (There are additional questions around how reliable carbon capture and storage is.)

So now you know more than the professor. (Ok, just Naomi Klein, but still.. )

 

[notimp]

Facebook launches climate project to tackle misinformation

After coming under fire for not doing enough to stop climate myths from spreading on its site, Facebook will now add info labels to climate change posts and direct users to a fact-checked website. But is it enough?

https://www.dw.com/en/facebook-starts-bid-to-fight-climate-misinformation/a-56713217

 

[notimp]

Promised an update on Mazzucato on the outlook front - here it is:

(The interviewer is a dumbnut. She is a little 'too radical' in the ideaspace, but that thinking is getting traction.)

In terms of investment scope - she agrees with the 'not enough' notion, that many activists currently have - but its all gaining shape.

Biden Speech on the topic (3 Trillion dollar investment in infrastructure and future technologies (investment pegged to infrastructure (retrofitting), climate and digitization) in the US.):

 

[notimp]

We now have our answer, on why the heck some interest groups started to finance initiatives to influence young people to dream of religious concepts again.



Demand side for sustainable investment portfolios is up in the generation that is currently (and will be in the next years) inheriting money from their parents. They are restructuring their investments and thereby filling a large part of the investment gap in Europe with private investment money.

To be absolutely clear - they do so, in a short term, going against informed investor and (institutional) long term investment trends - so getting out less return on investment than if they would not do that. (Long term different story.)

Deutsche Bank even has problems getting their portfolios ready, because the investor demand looking for yield - never went into that direction.

So there you have it. It worked. Young people in my generation inhereting wealth, are investing wrongly - for better social cohesion, short term. Maybe.

In Europe they are largely financing the retrofitting projects (thats our "infrastracture investment" out of the crisis, making the houses of the rich folks better), while the large investment fonds only sponsor green projects up to 30% - with recovery money - because they have to see to it, that society doesnt tank for a lack of job creation.

European Investment Bank is financing green initiatives to a larger extend, but also trending down (short term), as their funds also are needed to get out of the Covid crisis. That they are pushing sustainable financing is fine btw. They are the ones that should.

Issue - we are not doing this through structural investments, we have an actual financing gap of roughly 300bn (hope I remember that number correctly), where the private sector is supposed to jump in.

Investors? Mostly people inherenting boomer money being ethically driven investors (great). Mandatory laws (EU), that those packages have to be presented to clients (nudging) also helped. (*sark*)
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In other news - US just doubled their commitments on CO2 reduction compared to what the Obama administration pledged. But thats not through senate yet, and it will have a hard time going through.

In essence, US is going heavily into carbon capture and storage, will use biofuels, will switch to gas instead of oil where possible, and sometime in the far future - move towards renewable energy production only.

On how much they are investing into R&D on green energy technologies, I have no feel yet. The person heading the US initiative in that sector seems - like a bureaucratic pick, so maybe not 'moonshot' level investments yet..

More info should become available once COP comes around, the current administrations blueprint is very vague.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...-u-s-leadership-on-clean-energy-technologies/

But they significantly upped their commitment.

Issue - without a CO2 tax - you arent going onto a reduction pathway anytime soon. (Carbon capture and storage aside.) So - words.

edit: src: https://www.barrons.com/articles/u-...ious-climate-strategy-expert-says-51619100610

edit: Oh, and in the US the private sector investment funds on the topic are basically non existent - but "its growing". So, yeah.

 

[notimp]

CBAM Fit for 55: What are the redline issues?


Analysis based on a leaked proposal.

Fit for 55 was officially announced yesterday and is the EU Industrial strategy for CO2 reduction - even though the press does its best to hide it from readers and instead focus on fluff. (Imho)

 

[notimp]

Good documentary that illustrates the keystones of industrial revolution (also political social, commercial, PR) in the more recent years (especially after the second world war) in a little more than an hour. In a climate change context.

Sadly only available in french and german.

French:

German:


The Paley commission report of 1952 was new and interesting to me:
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1952-54v01p2/d16
https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/1975/01/1975a_bpea_cooper.pdf
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_S._Paley

Might be a good entry point into reading up about something..

 

[notimp]

Interesting video (Middle East Institute - NUS (Research Institute in Singapur)):

Potential GCC (Gulf Cooperation Council) strategies for transitioning.

 

[laudern]

These kids need to take it one step further and withdraw their own presence off this earth. It would make the world's future soooo soooo much better.

 

[smf]

These kids need to take it one step further and withdraw their own presence off this earth. It would make the world's future soooo soooo much better.

The dinosaurs thought that too.

Your future might not be so great if you don't get what you think you are entitled to, but I don't think you can talk about the world's future if you are only interested in yourself.