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Good lord they still use styluses? Let me go get my Palm Pilot and we can all jack off about the future of technology.
Resistive screens have advantages for gaming over capacitive screens (more accurate for one) used in the iPod Touch and iPhone. And obviously, your finger also works.

Once again, your wit just isn't very witty.
 
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I'm suprised that Bayonetta 2 is gonna be a Wii U exclusive :blink:

Wonder how it will work with that derpityderptablet thingy....

You get to grope Bayonetta with the stylus.

Good lord they still use styluses? Let me go get my Palm Pilot and we can all jack off about the future of technology.
This shows that you're afraid of changes and that you dismiss any kind of controls that isn't traditional.
 

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To be fair, that's because the leap from 360 to PS3 to their successors wouldn't be so much of a leap from the 360 [or] PS3 to the Wii U in terms of audience. There's probably going to be more overlap for the first group than the latter (though we'll see how that turns out).

The annoyance and minor frustration is certainly understandable. For most people, that's all it is; they're happy to see another game, but a bit peeved that they might not get to play it. The outrage and seething hatred is from a loud, obnoxious vocal minority.
That's still pretty ridiculous. Pretty much all the reasoning for their complaints is that "Wii U is a kiddy console". If you want Bayonetta 2, you have to buy a Wii U, a new console. Having it release on the PS4/720 would still result in you buying a new console.

The annoyance isn't understandable at all. Everyone complaining needs to think about it like this, the game wouldn't even have come out if it wasn't for Nintendo.

It's as if I had addressed both of these points...
No, you haven't.

The audience argument makes little sense. If you want Bayonetta 2, get a Wii U as well as the game. Whether it comes out on a Nintendo platform or a Sony platform is irrelevant.

Annoyance isn't understandable considering there was no chance of this coming for the PS3/360. The simple fact that it's even coming out on a system should be appreciated.

You seem to be missing the whole overlap part of that first point. Did you read the sentence, or just angrily glare at the screen before scrolling down?

And of course people have every right to be annoyed! Being annoyed doesn't mean they don't appreciate the fact that it wouldn't exist otherwise; they're not mutually exclusive states of mind here.
 
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Being annoyed is one thing - I was annoyed when Sonic 4 Ep 2 wasn't on Wii. But I didn't go around telling people I was going to kill myself just because of that.

And like I said, the loud outrage is coming from an obnoxiously vocal minority. It's unfair (not to mention just plain inaccurate) to say it represents the entire fanbase.
 

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You seem to be missing the whole overlap part of that first point. Did you read the sentence, or just angrily glare at the screen before scrolling down?

And of course people have every right to be annoyed! Being annoyed doesn't mean they don't appreciate the fact that it wouldn't exist otherwise; they're not mutually exclusive states of mind here.
Annoyed at what? At the fact that it isn't on their favourite console? That's still foolish.

I didn't bitch and moan when MGS4 was announced to be a PS3 exclusive. Nor did I when Monster Hunter Tri G was moved to the Wii.

If Bayonetta 2 was originally announced to be multiplatform and then Nintendo snatched it up and made it an exclusive, I'll understand people getting annoyed. But this is just plain silly.
 

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Annoyed at what? At the fact that it isn't on their favourite console? That's still foolish.

I didn't bitch and moan when MGS4 was announced to be a PS3 exclusive. Nor did I when Monster Hunter Tri G was moved to the Wii.

If Bayonetta 2 was originally announced to be multiplatform and then Nintendo snatched it up and made it an exclusive, I'll understand people getting annoyed. But this is just plain silly.
I can understand people's disappointment, sure. It's the same way I'm disappointed that Halo and Gears are Xbox exclusives, since I don't intend to get the Xbox 3 as long as the Wii U holds multiplat support. Nothing wrong with being disappointed as long as you're not a jerk about it.

And the fact that the original was a multiplat pretty heavily insinuates that the next game would also be multiplat. Especially since now that we have 3 systems that are all powerful enough to run a game like Bayonetta. I know I was shocked that Bayonetta 2 was announced as a Wii U exclusive.

That said, I'm not disappointed since I plan to get a Wii U anyway. But I can understand why other people with no intention to get a different system from the PS3 or Xbox. Hasn't it occurred to you that people perhaps can't afford a $300 console nowadays, even though they could afford a $400 Xbox 360 or $600 PS3 over half a decade ago? Times have changed, and members of the gaming crowd are generally poorer than they used to be.

To make a long story short, it's foolish to get your panties in a bunch over a game's exclusivity, but it's just as foolish to say that people have "no reason" to be upset or disappointed.
 
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I can understand people's disappointment, sure. It's the same way I'm disappointed that Halo and Gears are Xbox exclusives, since I don't intend to get the Xbox 3 as long as the Wii U holds multiplat support. Nothing wrong with being disappointed as long as you're not a jerk about it.

And the fact that the original was a multiplat pretty heavily insinuates that the next game would also be multiplat. Especially since now that we have 3 systems that are all powerful enough to run a game like Bayonetta. I know I was shocked that Bayonetta 2 was announced as a Wii U exclusive.

That said, I'm not disappointed since I plan to get a Wii U anyway. But I can understand why other people with no intention to get a different system from the PS3 or Xbox. Hasn't it occurred to you that people perhaps can't afford a $300 console nowadays, even though they could afford a $400 Xbox 360 or $600 PS3 over half a decade ago? Times have changed, and members of the gaming crowd are generally poorer than they used to be.

To make a long story short, it's foolish to get your panties in a bunch over a game's exclusivity, but it's just as foolish to say that people have "no reason" to be upset or disappointed.
Bayonetta 2 was in development, likely for multiple platforms. Then guess what, Sega cancelled it. Everyone was disappointed until Nintendo brought it back from the dead and now people are bitching?

It's as simple as this,

Would you rather the game not release on any system and stay cancelled?
or
Would you rather the game release on the Wii U giving you an opportunity to play it one day?

Gamers being poorer is a ridiculous assumption. There is no proof that backs up that fact.

Getting angry because a new game is on a more expensive system is foolish. PS2 owners didn't bitch and moan when MGS4 was on the PS3, a system that was much more expensive. It's baseless Nintendo-hate, plain and simple.
 
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Annoyed at what? At the fact that it isn't on their favourite console? That's still foolish.

I didn't bitch and moan when MGS4 was announced to be a PS3 exclusive. Nor did I when Monster Hunter Tri G was moved to the Wii.

If Bayonetta 2 was originally announced to be multiplatform and then Nintendo snatched it up and made it an exclusive, I'll understand people getting annoyed. But this is just plain silly.
I can understand people's disappointment, sure. It's the same way I'm disappointed that Halo and Gears are Xbox exclusives, since I don't intend to get the Xbox 3 as long as the Wii U holds multiplat support. Nothing wrong with being disappointed as long as you're not a jerk about it.

And the fact that the original was a multiplat pretty heavily insinuates that the next game would also be multiplat. Especially since now that we have 3 systems that are all powerful enough to run a game like Bayonetta. I know I was shocked that Bayonetta 2 was announced as a Wii U exclusive.

That said, I'm not disappointed since I plan to get a Wii U anyway. But I can understand why other people with no intention to get a different system from the PS3 or Xbox. Hasn't it occurred to you that people perhaps can't afford a $300 console nowadays, even though they could afford a $400 Xbox 360 or $600 PS3 over half a decade ago? Times have changed, and members of the gaming crowd are generally poorer than they used to be.

To make a long story short, it's foolish to get your panties in a bunch over a game's exclusivity, but it's just as foolish to say that people have "no reason" to be upset or disappointed.
From what I read in those comments, the problem wasn't that but mainly the fact that it was indeed a Nintendo exclusive.... Even if people are upset, which I can understand, there's no reason to overreact like that and insult/threaten people, I was pissed as hell when I found out there weren't gonna be more Tales games for the 360 or the fact that Versus apparently will only be a PS3 exclusive when the last ones have been multi-plat. There's way too many times when this happens tbh, but there's no reason at all for people to act like spoiled brats, Nintendo made the game possible by financing it, the gaming industry is above all, business. Bayonetta wouldn't even have a sequel at all if not for this, people should realise that and at least try to understand, and when I read stuff like gamers hating gaming companies, it's just friggin hilarious and stupid, I might not like a system or something, but, that gives me no right to criticize the company that made that system. I mean, the most important thing about gaming is having fun, people bringing hate and stuff like that to the gaming world is just not right, it ruins the purpose of it all...
 

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Bayonetta 2 was in development, likely for multiple platforms. Then guess what, Sega cancelled it. Everyone was disappointed until Nintendo brought it back from the dead and now people are bitching?

It's as simple as this,

Would you rather the game not release on any system and stay cancelled?
or
Would you rather the game release on the Wii U giving you an opportunity to play it one day?

Gamers being poorer is a ridiculous assumption. There is no proof that backs up that fact.

Getting angry because a new game is on a more expensive system is foolish. PS2 owners didn't bitch and moan when MGS4 was on the PS3, a system that was much more expensive. It's baseless Nintendo-hate, plain and simple.
I never said anything about being angry. I said it was perfectly understandable for people to be disappointed, but that it was ridiculous for people to freak out the way some have.

Also, have you SEEN the economy in the past few years? It goes without saying that not just gamers, but people (at least in America) are POORER in general. That's really not a far-fetched assumption.

"Would you rather X or Y" really doesn't work as a reason people shouldn't be disappointed. Yes, it's better than nothing, but it's not better than what could have been. There's nothing wrong with lamenting a game not coming to your console. And doing so isn't a sign of hate, either. I'm really disappointed that Gears of War and Halo aren't on Nintendo systems. But I'm far from a M$ hater (I have an Xbox 360, and I rather enjoy it, despite I haven't been playing it much lately). It's no different than being upset about Mega Man Legends 3 cancellation, for example (except that, of course, is MORE disappointing since it's not coming out at all).

Comparing a PS3 exclusive game for PS2 owners to a Wii U exclusive game for PS3/360 owners is complete apples and oranges. It stands to reason that, if you're a PS2 gamer, you would probably grab a PS3 eventually (assuming you could afford it). Since you already like Sony and their games, there would probably be a bunch of good exclusives, etc that you'd want the system for, anyway. However, if you're a PS3 gamer who doesn't want to worry about paying for multiple next-gen consoles, it makes sense that you'd be a bit disappointed that one of your favorite multiplats isn't going to continue on your system anymore. A PS3 owner likely would want to grab a PS4. It's not as likely they'd want to grab a Wii U additionally, and even LESS likely they'd want to forget the PS4 in favor of a Wii U.
[From what I read in those comments, the problem wasn't that but mainly the fact that it was indeed a Nintendo exclusive.... Even if people are upset, which I can understand, there's no reason to overreact like that and insult/threaten people, I was pissed as hell when I found out there weren't gonna be more Tales games for the 360 or the fact that Versus apparently will only be a PS3 exclusive when the last ones have been multi-plat. There's way too many times when this happens tbh, but there's no reason at all for people to act like spoiled brats, Nintendo made the game possible by financing it, the gaming industry is above all, business. Bayonetta wouldn't even have a sequel at all if not for this, people should realise that and at least try to understand, and when I read stuff like gamers hating gaming companies, it's just friggin hilarious and stupid, I might not like a system or something, but, that gives me no right to criticize the company that made that system. I mean, the most important thing about gaming is having fun, people bringing hate and stuff like that to the gaming world is just not right, it ruins the purpose of it all...
Again, I'm not talking about the whiners who are making death threats and cursing out platinum games... I'm specifically talking about the people who are disappointed at all, who SoulX apparently thinks are horrible people :P because they DARE wish that a game they like would come to their system, regardless of how they conduct themselves.
 
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Bayonetta 2 was in development, likely for multiple platforms. Then guess what, Sega cancelled it. Everyone was disappointed until Nintendo brought it back from the dead and now people are bitching?

It's as simple as this,

Would you rather the game not release on any system and stay cancelled?
or
Would you rather the game release on the Wii U giving you an opportunity to play it one day?

Gamers being poorer is a ridiculous assumption. There is no proof that backs up that fact.

Getting angry because a new game is on a more expensive system is foolish. PS2 owners didn't bitch and moan when MGS4 was on the PS3, a system that was much more expensive. It's baseless Nintendo-hate, plain and simple.
I never said anything about being angry. I said it was perfectly understandable for people to be disappointed, but that it was ridiculous for people to freak out the way some have.

Also, have you SEEN the economy in the past few years? It goes without saying that not just gamers, but people (at least in America) are POORER in general. That's really not a far-fetched assumption.

"Would you rather X or Y" really doesn't work as a reason people shouldn't be disappointed. Yes, it's better than nothing, but it's not better than what could have been. There's nothing wrong with lamenting a game not coming to your console. And doing so isn't a sign of hate, either. I'm really disappointed that Gears of War and Halo aren't on Nintendo systems. But I'm far from a M$ hater (I have an Xbox 360, and I rather enjoy it, despite I haven't been playing it much lately). It's no different than being upset about Mega Man Legends 3 cancellation, for example (except that, of course, is MORE disappointing since it's not coming out at all).

Comparing a PS3 exclusive game for PS2 owners to a Wii U exclusive game for PS3/360 owners is complete apples and oranges. It stands to reason that, if you're a PS2 gamer, you would probably grab a PS3 eventually (assuming you could afford it). Since you already like Sony and their games, there would probably be a bunch of good exclusives, etc that you'd want the system for, anyway. However, if you're a PS3 gamer who doesn't want to worry about paying for multiple next-gen consoles, it makes sense that you'd be a bit disappointed that one of your favorite multiplats isn't going to continue on your system anymore. A PS3 owner likely would want to grab a PS4. It's not as likely they'd want to grab a Wii U additionally, and even LESS likely they'd want to forget the PS4 in favor of a Wii U.
[From what I read in those comments, the problem wasn't that but mainly the fact that it was indeed a Nintendo exclusive.... Even if people are upset, which I can understand, there's no reason to overreact like that and insult/threaten people, I was pissed as hell when I found out there weren't gonna be more Tales games for the 360 or the fact that Versus apparently will only be a PS3 exclusive when the last ones have been multi-plat. There's way too many times when this happens tbh, but there's no reason at all for people to act like spoiled brats, Nintendo made the game possible by financing it, the gaming industry is above all, business. Bayonetta wouldn't even have a sequel at all if not for this, people should realise that and at least try to understand, and when I read stuff like gamers hating gaming companies, it's just friggin hilarious and stupid, I might not like a system or something, but, that gives me no right to criticize the company that made that system. I mean, the most important thing about gaming is having fun, people bringing hate and stuff like that to the gaming world is just not right, it ruins the purpose of it all...
Again, I'm not talking about the whiners who are making death threads and cursing out platinum games... I'm specifically talking about the people who are disappointed at all, who SoulX apparently thinks are horrible people because they DARE wish that a game they like would come to their system, regardless of how they conduct themselves.
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I'm fine with people wishing that it comes out on a platform that they own. Personally I wish Kojima would release Peace Walker 2 on the 3DS and MGS: HD Collection on the PC.

The difference is being annoyed at the fact that it's on a Nintendo platform. That doesn't make sense...at all.

"What could have been" is that the game would have come out nowhere. And honestly, that's the worst that could have happened. But thankfully, Nintendo decided to publish the game.

You know, your disappointment in Gears of War and Halo not being on Nintendo system doesn't make sense either since they are Microsoft IPs. That's like being annoyed when Nintendo announces a new Zelda game for the Wii and not the 360.

And the economy argument doesn't work. Firstly, gamers don't only reside in America. Second, you shouldn't make claims like that and present them as facts when there is no proof backing it up.

It isn't anything like comparing apples and oranges. If you like the PS2, it doesn't automatically mean you would want to get the PS3. Maybe they just like good games and don't purchase consoles over an allegiance to a certain manufacturer.
 

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I'm fine with people wishing that it comes out on a platform that they own. Personally I wish Kojima would release Peace Walker 2 on the 3DS and MGS: HD Collection on the PC.

The difference is being annoyed at the fact that it's on a Nintendo platform. That doesn't make sense...at all.

"What could have been" is that the game would have come out nowhere. And honestly, that's the worst that could have happened. But thankfully, Nintendo decided to publish the game.

You know, your disappointment in Gears of War and Halo not being on Nintendo system doesn't make sense either since they are Microsoft IPs. That's like being annoyed when Nintendo announces a new Zelda game for the Wii and not the 360.

And the economy argument doesn't work. Firstly, gamers don't only reside in America. Second, you shouldn't make claims like that and present them as facts when there is no proof backing it up.

It isn't anything like comparing apples and oranges. If you like the PS2, it doesn't automatically mean you would want to get the PS3. Maybe they just like good games and don't purchase consoles over an allegiance to a certain manufacturer.
I made it clear multiple times I was talking about people who were just disappointed/upset in general, not the people who were whining and seething and getting pissed over it. Having to clarify that to you and have you pretend that's not what I mean is really getting old.

And it's a pretty universally accepted fact that the economy in the US is absolutely terrible right now, and is greatly affecting the GENERAL (a word I was careful to use) population. My only mistake was forgetting to clarify I was talking about the US (which I rectified in a later comment). Mainstream gaming sites and commentators who talk about next gen constantly talk about the poor economy being reason that gamers likely may only buy one next-gen system. Asking me to prove that people are poorer due to the economy is like asking me to prove that Zelda is a Nintendo IP. It's a generally accepted fact, and hence it doesn't lie on me to prove it. You can easily look it up yourself.

Disappointment and upsettedness are emotions. They don't HAVE to be "logical." They're feelings. Making death threats and demanding Platinum make the game a multiplat, however, require logic. Angrily ranting against a company for making a game a Nintendo exclusive when the game wouldn't exist otherwise is illogical, and silly (as you and I both agree, I'm sure).
 
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People freaking out about the jump to Nintendo is too funny. They all talk big with their threats and such, and that is all it is. I would love to see more multi-plat games become not just exclusive, but exclusive to Nintendo, just to get more of their reactions.
I think Nintendo already has way more exclusives than it needs (and that's a good thing). That said, if the Wii U got more 3rd party exclusives, it would send a good message (yet again) to the haters that Nintendo consoles aren't just for kids.
 
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