cuz you can't host your own games anymore :/ (for random people to join) Quote: No community How can there be a community if there is no central point to access a game. It has been revealed there will be no server browser, and as there are no servers there will be no IP addresses to give out. So how can you advertise a game/match to the general public to play? Like on a clan website or whatever. And once the host is gone, the game ends, so you can't invite people to the same match again or keep it running. Whereas with a dedicated server you can advertise the IP, and people can come and go as they please, and you can create a community of gamers around that server. You cannot have regulars to a match if it ends when everyone leaves. I played cod4 for two years on the pc. i got to know a lot of people... the "regulars". we got together just to play and chat and only because we happen to come to the same server's same game at the same time of day. They weren't exactly normal friends but they made me feel like the time spent on cod wasn't wasted. after a few months it really felt like hanging out with old friends. I then moved to cod waw on the xbox360. I played for a year. joined whatever game was going on. went through 3 play through's to lvl 65. It all left me strangely unsatisfied. I'm going to move back to cod4 for now. Which incidentally is also a good way to wait out the ban wave. p.s. torchlight on the pc is awesome... try it.