"Which Flash Cart Should I Get?" - Poll.

Discussion in 'NDS - Flashcarts and Accessories' started by Rydian, Mar 14, 2012.

  1. Acekard 2.1

    16 vote(s)
  2. Acekard 2i

    92 vote(s)
  3. Acekard R.P.G.

    4 vote(s)
  4. AmazeKard

    3 vote(s)
  5. CycloDS Evolution

    5 vote(s)
  6. CycloDS iEvolution

    10 vote(s)
  7. DSTT

    7 vote(s)
  8. DSTTi

    8 vote(s)
  9. EDGE

    0 vote(s)
  10. iEDGE

    1 vote(s)
  11. EX4DS

    0 vote(s)
  12. EZ-Flash Vi

    10 vote(s)
  13. iSmart MM

    2 vote(s)
  14. iSmart Premium

    1 vote(s)
  15. M3 DS Real

    5 vote(s)
  16. M3i Zero

    6 vote(s)
  17. R4 Original Model (Wood Supported)

    47 vote(s)
  18. R4i Gold/3DS (Wood Supported Models)

    114 vote(s)
  19. Supercard DSONEi

    9 vote(s)
  20. Supercard DSTWO

    129 vote(s)
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Rydian

    Rydian Resident Furvert™

    Feb 4, 2010
    United States
    Cave Entrance, Watching Cyan Write Letters
    So the Which Flash Cart Should I Get? sticky had the listed carts chosen via this public poll poll for it's inception.

    Now, given the following changes...
    1. Some carts no longer recieve support/updates, rendering them an unwise purchasing decision.
    2. Some cart that had promise at the time may have failed to live up to expectations or worsened over time somehow.
    3. Some carts that were relatively-new at the time have had time to be accepted into the community.
    4. Some carts that seemed to have low or dead support have suddenly become more active.
    5. The 3DS has come out with multiple updates, putting the support of more flash carts to the test.
    I feel it's time to refresh the list via another public poll.

    The poll allows more than one answer because this isn't a poll to determine a single flash cart, it's a poll to see which ones the most users think deserve to be mentioned in the list. Take note that this is a suggestion list, so if you would not suggest new users to buy the cart, then you should not vote for it. The poll will be open until I feel that enough users have voted that we have an appreciably-large sample size.
  2. Nathan Drake

    Nathan Drake Obligations fulfilled, now I depart.

    Jan 2, 2011
    I voted for four carts:

    1) Acekard 2i: With AKAIO, you truly can't go wrong. It's an inexpensive cart, works on everything (last I checked), and has top notch compatibility (which actually says relatively little these days).

    2) Original R4 (1:1 clone, of course): It's the best choice for the DS phat/lite user on a budget. At the price of maybe $13 or $15 total to get up and running (including 2GB MicroSD purchase), and with the Wood kernel, it's a great choice.

    3) R4i Gold/3DS: Acekard 2i offers more for about the same price point, but if you can find one of these cheaper, about the only thing truly lacking is the anti-AP feature.

    4) Supercard DSTwo: Obviously the best cart available for many reasons.
  3. Rydian

    Rydian Resident Furvert™

    Feb 4, 2010
    United States
    Cave Entrance, Watching Cyan Write Letters
    I might as well chip in my reasoning since I voted too...

    1. AK2i. The 2.1 is cheaper, but only by 1-2 bucks, and you limit yourself on the future. 1-2 bucks is nothing when you get access to all sorts of homebrew and people will be pirating anyways. As above, AKAIO/support is the reason.

    2. EZ-Flash Vi. Modern cart with some nicer features than the 2i, at a slightly-larger price. Proven a mainstay, though not one that stands out.

    3. R4 Original. While, like the 2.1, this doesn't work on new DS models, it's dirt-cheap. $4 or less in some shops.

    4. R4i Gold/3DS. Direct competitor to the Ak2i. Similar features/price and proper support.

    5. DSTwo. Do I even have to explain? Powerhouse cart with tons of unique features and still less than the price of a normal game in the US. The only negative about it other than the fitting issue is the power drain worry, and tests have shown it to be minor.
  4. Just Another Gamer

    Just Another Gamer 星空のメモリア-Wish upon a shooting star- Fanboy

    Feb 29, 2012
    Watching Hibarigasaki's starry sky
    I don't know most of the others so I just voted for SCDS2 since I have one and its bloody fantastic.
  5. emugirl1994

    emugirl1994 Advanced Member

    Jun 10, 2010
    United States
    Bay Area
    Voted AceKard 2i because of AKAIO support and SuperCardDSTwo just because it's the boss of all flashcarts.
  6. CannonFoddr

    CannonFoddr Regular GBATemp Lurker

    Sep 23, 2006
    Sitting by computer
    Not saying what I voted for (but I thing many can guess a couple of them by my Sig) ....

    It's a shame I've not tried any of the 'newer' ones (e.g. Amazecard) & have to base my vote on reviews for those
    Personally - I voted for ones that are still regularly 'supported'
  7. Jennyfurr

    Jennyfurr GBAtemp Regular

    Jan 7, 2012
    United States
    under a rock
    Voted for Acekard 2i and SuperCard DStwo~
    They are the only ones I've ever owned and used extensively. They are both awesome ^_^
  8. Densetsu

    Densetsu Pubic Ninja

    Former Staff
    Feb 2, 2008
    United States
    Wouldn't YOU like to know?
    These were my votes, in descending order of preference:
    1. Supercard DStwo: The SCDS2 is the flagship of all DS flashcarts, as unanimously stated by everyone here. It also has an alternate loader called iMenu, which is visually pretty sweet and highly customizable. One of the most expensive carts, but in this case you get what you pay for in terms of features.
    2. Acekard 2i: Its unoffiicial loader for AK2i, AKAIO, has great support. MAIO for Acekard 2i provides all the functionality of AKAIO with an awesome GUI (which allows you to boot commercial ROMs directly from Moonshell 2).
    3. R4i Gold 3DS: WoodR4 provides a simple menu and none of the advanced features like SCDS2, but it works great. You can even use MAIO for R4 if you want a nicer GUI. As the name suggests, it works with the 3DS (as do SCDS2 and AK2i).
    4. R4 (original and 1:1 clones): Uses WoodR4 (and MAIO) and is similar in function to R4i Gold 3DS, except that it doesn't support SDHC (so it only accepts 2GB cards or 4GB non-SDHC cards), and it doesn't work on the 3DS. Extremely cheap.
    It should also be noted that these four all use the usrcheat.dat file, which is one of the three formats regularly updated by CMP via the DS-Scene ROM tool (the other two formats being user.evoCheats for CycloDS Evo/iEvo and cheats.dat for EDGE/iEDGE). It's worth mentioning this because I know that the M3i Zero and M3 DS Real use the cheat.db format, which is not supported by the DS-Scene ROM tool. This makes it difficult to find updated cheat files for the M3 unless you know how to convert from one cheat file format to another (not that I would recommend any M3 flashcarts).

    I would strongly discourage anyone from buying the M3i Zero, M3 DS Real and CycloDS Evolution / iEvolution because they are no longer supported (officially or unofficially).
  9. Themanhunt

    Themanhunt GBAtemp Fan

    Aug 11, 2011
    Supercard DSTWO

    Acekard 2i

    R4i Gold 3DS

    Own them all and they are good.
  10. Qtis

    Qtis Grey Knight Inquisitor

    Feb 28, 2010
    The Forge
    First of all since most games released for the DS, I put all cards I own/have owned here that have worked for most of the DS life for me.

    In no particular order:

    1. R4 - Needs no explanation. WoodR4 and a DS/DSL and you're ready to go. Cheapest option available.

    2. CycloDS Evolution - Excellent card and works for most of the DS games. No support anymore, but so far it hasn't let me down. Possibly the best DS/DSL card out there with the limitations mentioned before. (Also if you hate the card, don't get it. It's just that simple). (Also my first cart. Still going strong since 2008)

    3. Acekard 2i - Basically the same as the original R4 except with DSi support! Fast updates, great support with AKAIO

    4. Supercard DSTwo - Lots of features and the only way to get GBA support via flashcarts on a DSi/DSiXL/3DS. Apparently great emulation features, but I tend to use my PSP Go for that (better support because of better original hardware).

    (5. CycloDS iEvolution - Same as the Evolution except with DSi mode. Just for testing, but not really that amazing on the DSi/DSiXL/3DS if you updated the console. One more firmware update could have saved the cart for DSi/DSiXL consoles, but since it never happened, I'll just leave this here.)
  11. EyeZ

    EyeZ GBAtemp Addict

    Dec 4, 2009
    I just voted for the flashcarts that i own and would recommend as i've had no experience with the others.
  12. Rydian

    Rydian Resident Furvert™

    Feb 4, 2010
    United States
    Cave Entrance, Watching Cyan Write Letters
    Alright looking at the huge disparity in votes, it's obvious which carts go in. XD
  13. RupeeClock

    RupeeClock Colors 3D Snivy!

    May 15, 2008
    You're gonna hear the same from me like from many others who may post, but I'm gonna post the reasons anyway.

    Original R4DS (1:1 reproduction) is definitely a worthwhile flashcart for any DS Lite users on a budget, the flashcart itself can be picked up for about $3-6 and it can use up to 2gb microSD cards, and run the popular Wood firmware.

    For that same reason, R4i Gold/3DS with its added 3DS/DSi support and SDHC support, being able to use Wood R4 firmware makes it highly attractive as well.

    Acekard 2i is a similar flashcart with reliable firmware updates and the famous AKAIO firmware, with excellent compatibility and runs software both homebrew and commercial impeccably. I can remember bygone days where some games may run, but they had noticable jarring pauses in games like Pokémon Platinum when entering battles or towns. Issues being resolved like this is a testament to the accomplished AKAIO firmware.

    And finally there's the Supercard DSTwo, the premium of DS flashcarts. A bit more costly around the $35 dollar range, these babies sport an internal processor that enables it to do some revolutionary things like playing video formats without the need to convert (like with Moonshell), and emulate both GBA and SNES titles.
    My favourite features are part of the DS rom compatibility however, its anti-piracy circumvention is unbeaten in the flashcart scene and almost every new scene release has worked on day one. There has only been a very few games that have needed patching or updating of the firmware.
    On top of that, it has the best real-time menu of any flashcart, with four save-state slots of great reliability, the ability to load an unlimited number of .txt or .bmp files as game guides, the ability to toggle cheat codes without interrupting the game, and other small things like soft-reset or memory hacking.
    It really is the dream flashcart.

    On that last note I need to state why I do not recommend the CycloDS iEvolution. Sadly this is a flashcart past its prime, whilst it was a worthy improvement over the original R4DS at its inception, before the age of the DSi, its feature set has not been improved upon with its DSi incarnation.
    The operating system has not been significantly improved upon from its original version, only the addition of a touchy DSi-mode. Whilst it allows DSi-enhanced titles to be run in DSi-mode (such as pokémon black/white), as well as homebrew and non-DSi enhanced titles, these games tend to run unreliably, with bugs or freezes.
    The real-time menu, which CycloDS brought first to the DS scene, is pitiful compared to the DSTwo. It is very slow to actually display when summoned, and offers only one real-time save (which must be prepared before loading the ROM), only one .txt file that does not even support word-wrap, and does not take advantage of touch-screen capabilities.
    On top of all that, they CycloDS team seemed to have disbanded, firmware updates that improve game release compatibility do not exist with no alternative firmwares.
    I truly loved the original CycloDS at its prime, the same can be said of the original R4DS, but it no longer satisfies the needs of an active DS player.
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  14. mybluered

    mybluered GBAtemp Regular

    Apr 30, 2011
    United States
    In fact, R4i Gold 3DS(www.r4ids.cn) and ak2i are almost the same. R4i Gold 3DS is supported by WOOD R4 and ak2i is supported by akaio.Both can support NDSL/NDSi/NDS XL/3DS and SDHC tf card. I think R4i Gold 3DS doing better than ak2i when coming to the ds's system updating. It seems that r4i gold 3ds always releases the patch faster than ak2i.
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  15. Todderbert

    Todderbert Korg Fanboy

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    Aug 30, 2009
    United States
    I agree. I've switched from Ace to the R4i. Mainly because of the contact issues that happen with most acekards.
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  16. game player

    game player Newbie

    Mar 22, 2012
    I voted for the r4i gold/3DS that it is very good and the upgrade of the wood is quickly!! :)
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  17. bigboss2011

    bigboss2011 Banned

    Feb 11, 2012
    Hong Kong
    I switched from ak2i to the R4i gold 3DS , now I am using R4i gold 3ds .I think it really easy to install , what's more the wood r4 firmware is great! :D
  18. Sicklyboy

    Sicklyboy ~I have crippling depression~

    Global Moderator
    Jul 15, 2009
    United States
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    Voted for the N5 ;)

    DSTWO - Great, onboard CPU able to emulate GBA, a very nice thing on DSi and 3DS consoles. Updated quickly, nice interface and a few replacement ones.

    AK2i - Bought one for my little brother for Christmas, loaded up the launcher on it and was very impressed. Works great, also updated well, and AKAIO is very simple and easy to use.

    Also, forgot to add, I would only recommend cards with an reflashable bootloader at this point. Even if the card is going to be used for a DS Lite ONLY, the cards can NEVER be used on a DSi or 3DS. Yeah, the R4 may be $4 USD, but when an AK2i is $15, which still isn't super expensive, why limit yourself from the future?
  19. Gamefun

    Gamefun Newbie

    Mar 28, 2012
    Gambia, The
    R4i gold 3ds is the best. B-)
    1st,R4i gold 3ds upgrade the Kernel and patch at the very first time,it's an improvement!
    2nd,R4i gold 3ds works great as Acekard 2i and Supercard DStwo,but easier to use.
    3rd,R4i gold 3ds is the cheapest.
  20. XixiLiu

    XixiLiu Newbie

    Mar 28, 2012
    i think R4i Gold 3ds is useful,very good!the wood R4 is stable,support a lot of version and NDSL/NDSi/NDS XL/3DS and SDHC tf card.more important,it's
    very cheep!
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