U.S. Supreme Court set to overturn Roe v. Wade abortion rights decision

[The Catboy]

Yes it is and if you create life during the process then its your responsibility to care for it.

So just gonna ignore any nuance questions? I am honestly afraid for any women in your life. You seem like an extremely unhappy, unhinged, and controlling person that treats women like property

 

[Lacius]

No, I'm saying that you don't believe in any freedoms at all. And you don't.

You need food and especially water to survive. While procreation is necessary for humanity to continue in general, one can go through life without sex and still live a long healthy life if they choose to. I do know what sex is. I'm not going into detail into my personal life with strangers on the internet I don't like, but I do know and even though pleasurable, you can say no easily. You make it sound like people are sex crazed addicts you constantly need sex all the time. You can say no and/or use protection if you're that worries. It's that simple. And before you say "I didn't say you need sex like you need food and water" you compared the need for sex to needing food and water, so you did. We need and desire food and water to survive. We can desire sex, but we don't actually need it unless to procreate.

The left always act like they aren't sentient or have the intelligence of a human and yet we're forced to call them people. lol But really, comparing a fetus that is life to pests and parasites, how twisted and evil can one be? For you to think that human life in the womb is a parasite, you need to re-evaluate yourself and your values immediately.

Like you? Like you.

.....Have you been living under a rock or did someone heave a rock at your head and you were in a coma the past two years?

It can't be worse than the dystopian left-wing version of the country we're living in now.

Um.....

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/vaccine-mandates#1
https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/vaccine-mandates

I guess people around the world must have great and powerful imaginations then for this to become reality.

Not killing a baby is a crime against humanity? Jesus, you people will stretch to the ends of the Earth to try to back up your twisted view points and arguments.

I've seen plenty of people on the left with incredibly bad grammar and spelling. We don't need someone like you to be a grammar nazi for us, we can type just fine.

Well at least you admit what you are. As the old saying goes: May the Lord have Mercy on your soul.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how human sexuality works.

 

[KennyAtom]

You do realize this was the case for a while and society didn't crumble, right? On the flip side, prior to Roe women WERE dying needlessly.

You do realize I was being sarcastic as well? Just because you ban killing babies doesn't mean the entire world will fall apart.

Well, if the shoe fits...

You know, i never understood that line. Just because the shoe fits doesn't mean that it's yours.

 

[The Catboy]

You know, i never understood that line. Just because the shoe fits doesn't mean that it's yours.

It can be when the security isn’t looking

 

[Dakitten]

You do realize I was being sarcastic as well? Just because you ban killing babies doesn't mean the entire world will fall apart.

You know, i never understood that line. Just because the shoe fits doesn't mean that it's yours.

I realized your sarcasm, and then pointed out that it doesn't work to suit your point. You're welcome!

While we are here, I'll explain that line. Yes, it doesn't mean the shoe is yours, but it means you fit that shoe. I may not have called you those things you were worried about being called, but I pointed out that they don't not apply to you. That would be a double negative. You're welcome!

 

[Lumstar]

Yes it is and if you create life during the process then its your responsibility to care for it.

There are responsibilities yes. Did you drink alcohol while pregnant? That has a lasting impact on the child long after delivery.

 

[KennyAtom]

I realized your sarcasm, and then pointed out that it doesn't work to suit your point. You're welcome!

Alright, I didn't understand at first, thanks for explaining it. Don't really need the "You're welcome" comment though tbh.

While we are here, I'll explain that line. Yes, it doesn't mean the shoe is yours, but it means you fit that shoe. I may not have called you those things you were worried about being called, but I pointed out that they don't not apply to you. That would be a double negative. You're welcome!

Sorry, I'm not really a good english speaker, so I get confused on some idioms and such. Thank you for explaining.

Doesn't mean I hate women though, I just don't like seeing babies die.

 

[Lacius]

Alright, I didn't understand at first, thanks for explaining it. Don't really need the "You're welcome" comment though tbh.


Sorry, I'm not really a good english speaker, so I get confused on some idioms and such. Thank you for explaining.

Doesn't mean I hate women though, I just don't like seeing babies die.

• A fetus is not a baby.
• Criminalizing abortion will lead to women dying.
• It is anti-woman for the state to tell a woman what to do with her body. If the goal is to reduce abortions, mandate vasectomies.

 

[KennyAtom]

A fetus is not a baby.

It is a baby.

• Criminalizing abortion will lead to women dying.

Criminalizing damn near anything will lead to people dying.

It is anti-woman for the state to tell a woman what to do with her body. If the goal is to reduce abortions, mandate vasectomies.

If that's anti woman, then this suggestion is anti man.

why not just support sex ed, and fund condoms and condoms for woman?

 

[Lumstar]

The man has choices too, you know. If a man thinks a woman isn't ready for children, he doesn't have to have sex with her.

 

[Deleted member 559230]

You are claiming that the baby should have the right to the mothers body. I'm asking if they should also have the right to the fathers body. I am not oversimplifying the issue, I am pointing out a fundamental problem with your views.


That's a lie. Now you are just being dishonest and childish. Like I said, a sound argument could convince me. Is there something that could change your mind?

Change my mind? Nope. Murdering babies is evil and wrong. As for the father, if per say a biological man could get pregnant then yes, he should have to carry the baby to term. After that both parents need to care for it until its 18 years old, by providing it food, clothes, housing, etc ...

Babies are babies, unborn or born.

Also I literally said in extreme cases like rape or risk, you're just trying to make me look like a douchebag who enjoys women dying.

The leftists on this site fail to realize that these extreme cases are not the norm, they are rare. However, I believe that killing the baby is wrong regardless of how the mother became pregnant. It's still a human life you're shredding to bits.

 

[Dakitten]

Well at least you admit what you are. As the old saying goes: May the Lord have Mercy on your soul.

Irony, this faith has a lot of baby killing in its pages. I think I'm cool not being a part of your cult.

Alright, I didn't understand at first, thanks for explaining it. Don't really need the "You're welcome" comment though tbh.


Sorry, I'm not really a good english speaker, so I get confused on some idioms and such. Thank you for explaining.

Doesn't mean I hate women though, I just don't like seeing babies die.

Y'know, I'll own this. I was being antagonistic because your comments show a lack of understanding and good faith regarding this topic. Maybe you don't fully understand the gravity of the side you're defending, and I'll respect that to a point. Abortions aren't just magical turn-off pregnancy buttons, they hurt and have long lasting consequences of their own. They do end a pregnancy, which has long lasting and immediate issues all its own, well aside from the new human being brought into the world. Society being ill equipped to handle every child that comes to be aside (which it absolutely is and destitution follows folks for life!), women often suffer negative health effects for the rest of their days. Forever.

Kids who don't understand their bodies enough to realize what they could and then do get into, adults that have birth control fail or maybe just fail to gauge their own ability to handle liquor at a party, victims of sexual assault that again society doesn't do anywhere near a perfect job preventing or even dissuading predators from glamorizing the acts, people who don't know their bodies are ill suited to pregnancy and are in danger of complications... There are a lot of reasons abortions can save a life that is here, right now, from certain distress, and the costs have to be weighed by the woman as either path ends in some level of suffering. A man can walk away from an encounter and never have so much as a single tear shed for the consequences of their part in conception (and have, many many times no less).

I suspect you think that abortions are just a last resort birth control method by people who aren't responsible, and that really isn't the issue... but if you truly want to stand up against that sort of thing, I'd suggest you devote your energy to a more practical countermeasure, like providing family readiness support and education in your area.

 

[KennyAtom]

The leftists on this site fail to realize that these extreme cases are not the norm, they are rare. However, I believe that killing the baby is wrong regardless of how the mother became pregnant. It's still a human life you're shredding to bits.

That's true, taking away a human life in any instance is bad. But sometimes, you have to account for really extreme cases.

In cases where the mother would die if she gave birth, I'd rather only lose one life, rather than two, but I'd much rather keep both lives if I could.

Also I love how they keep forgetting about adoption, like "I want to kill my baby!" But don't forget about adoption! "NO I WANT TO KILL!"

 

[mammastuffing]

Change my mind? Nope. Murdering babies is evil and wrong. As for the father, if per say a biological man could get pregnant then yes, he should have to carry the baby to term. After that both parents need to care for it until its 18 years old, by providing it food, clothes, housing, etc ...

No one here is advocating for murdering babies. You are however advocating for women having less rights than men but are failing to make your case for it. Are you saying that you are close minded when it comes to womens rights?

 

[Lumstar]

Change my mind? Nope. Murdering babies is evil and wrong. As for the father, if per say a biological man could get pregnant then yes, he should have to carry the baby to term. After that both parents need to care for it until its 18 years old, by providing it food, clothes, housing, etc ...



The leftists on this site fail to realize that these extreme cases are not the norm, they are rare. However, I believe that killing the baby is wrong regardless of how the mother became pregnant. It's still a human life you're shredding to bits.

On the fringes, it becomes two sides of the same coin. The furthest extremes of the left and right are similarly atrocious.

Is the mother the fetus's property?
Is the fetus the mother's property?

 

[KennyAtom]

Y'know, I'll own this. I was being antagonistic because your comments show a lack of understanding and good faith regarding this topic. Maybe you don't fully understand the gravity of the side you're defending, and I'll respect that to a point. Abortions aren't just magical turn-off pregnancy buttons, they hurt and have long lasting consequences of their own. They do end a pregnancy, which has long lasting and immediate issues all its own, well aside from the new human being brought into the world. Society being ill equipped to handle every child that comes to be aside (which it absolutely is and destitution follows folks for life!), women often suffer negative health effects for the rest of their days. Forever.

Kids who don't understand their bodies enough to realize what they could and then do get into, adults that have birth control fail or maybe just fail to gauge their own ability to handle liquor at a party, victims of sexual assault that again society doesn't do anywhere near a perfect job preventing or even dissuading predators from glamorizing the acts, people who don't know their bodies are ill suited to pregnancy and are in danger of complications... There are a lot of reasons abortions can save a life that is here, right now, from certain distress, and the costs have to be weighed by the woman as either path ends in some level of suffering. A man can walk away from an encounter and never have so much as a single tear shed for the consequences of their part in conception (and have, many many times no less).

I suspect you think that abortions are just a last resort birth control method by people who aren't responsible, and that really isn't the issue... but if you truly want to stand up against that sort of thing, I'd suggest you devote your energy to a more practical countermeasure, like providing family readiness support and education in your area.

You know what, thank you for speaking to me like a human being.

I suspect I need to do some more research on this, and not just jump in like I usually do. This probably will have more gravity than any of us realize, and we need to realize this.

Also I'm sorry for being a dickhead earlier, it was undeserved, and I should not have done it.

 

[SG854]

Oy, it is so easy for ignorant young men in this place to just assume "Slutty women just can't keep their legs closed and then take responsibility for their actions!" is a valid argument to make abortion illegal. I've got two kids, and they're wonderful little beasties, but they never got their sister due to complications that couldn't be helped. It took until after two months for the issue to become apparent, and it was possible that the kid could have come into the world (albeit with some serious issues) but there was also a decent chance that they all would have not had their mother. Sure, overturning Roe might not make that illegal everywhere, but the idea that it might be illegal anywhere is just insanity...

Also, I thought posting porn vids was a temp ban at least? Why is Drak0rex still posting? Speaks volumes to the moderation of this place still.

What's stupid about that comment is that it's not even about Promiscuity. What if just a Boyfriend and Girlfriend having g sex. Or Hisband and Wife.

How are those even considered slutty Woman? Just the very act of Sex is considered slutty to them and evil. It's a fuckin stupid comment. And it's rooted in stupid religious beliefs.

 

[Lumstar]

Anyone so promiscuous they'd get abortions to continue their behavior, needs help. Not criminal justice.

 

[Lacius]

If that's anti woman, then this suggestion is anti man.

It wasn't a serious suggestion. That was the point.

why not just support sex ed, and fund condoms and condoms for woman?

We should, but they also aren't 100% effective.

 

[Stone_Wings]

No, I'm saying that you don't believe in any freedoms at all. And you don't.

"Things conservatives say for $100, Alex."

Chalk it up with other conservative greatest hits like "I don't know what medical freedom means." and "Fathers absoultely have rights to what happens, but the mothers do not."

You are insane. You want government to have control, I do not, yet I'm the one not believing in freedoms. That's about as fucking stupid as it can get.