Hacking RB2 Customs - Proof of Concept

[Mrkinator]

mrwulff, has that new parser been released yet? I know that if you do, and it works, and we get a .midi, bam, customs for Metallica.

Hmm, thats how I thought it worked. Could you have it go the other way as well mrwulff? Make it so it exports a midi aswell?

 

[SFenton]

It'll export a chart that we convert to a .midi. Are you still needing MoP?

 

[Mrkinator]

It'll export a chart that we convert to a .midi. Are you still needing MoP?

No thanks, I've got it

Fun Fact: when opening the .chart file for Master of Puppets in FeedBack, no chart appears. Bar lines appear though, the songs beat is 2500 beats per minute

Billion Bar lines come at you at once.

 

[SFenton]

QTF??? 0_o

 

[ShakaHeath]

To-do List:
(X) Unpacking
(X) Audio (using Mogg files)
(X) Charts (partially work, RB1 midis work but not customs)
(X) Editing Song Info (title, artist, etc.)
(X) Packing (BIN files)
(Close, still working on bugs) Installer (Wii Side)
( ? ) Installer (PC app)
(X) Exporter (testing once Installer Wii Side is done)

Great job!

But for the charts, did you notice that RB1 had both talky and screamy parts? screamy parts are considered as the higher possible note for the singer to sing... You might want to find a way to convert these...
check out Are You Gonna Be My Girl from Jet once exported the very first word is supposed to be shouted.

And will your tool work with PAL version of the game (exporting Pleymo would be great)?

 

[AerialX]

To-do List:
(X) Unpacking
(X) Audio (using Mogg files)
(X) Charts (partially work, RB1 midis work but not customs)
(X) Editing Song Info (title, artist, etc.)
(X) Packing (BIN files)
(Close, still working on bugs) Installer (Wii Side)
( ? ) Installer (PC app)
(X) Exporter (testing once Installer Wii Side is done)

Great job!

But for the charts, did you notice that RB1 had both talky and screamy parts? screamy parts are considered as the higher possible note for the singer to sing... You might want to find a way to convert these...
check out Are You Gonna Be My Girl from Jet once exported the very first word is supposed to be shouted.

I'll check later. My guess is that it just becomes a talky, though I don't play vocals enough to really know. What happens when it's exported to RB2 on the other consoles?

QUOTE(Heathcliff @ May 31 2009, 01:47 PM)

And will your tool work with PAL version of the game (exporting Pleymo would be great)?

Yup.

 

[ShakaHeath]

And will your tool work with PAL version of the game (exporting Pleymo would be great)?

Yup.

Woaw that's great! Too bad I cannot play Pleymo, Les Wampas or Die Toten Hosen for now as ARK Tool can't read the ARK from RB1 PAL :'(
Though I understand you have to take your time so the tools you are about to give us are flawless I can't wait for a release date to be announced! You guys are just awesome!

 

[Mrkinator]

Great job!
But for the charts, did you notice that RB1 had both talky and screamy parts? screamy parts are considered as the higher possible note for the singer to sing... You might want to find a way to convert these...
check out Are You Gonna Be My Girl from Jet once exported the very first word is supposed to be shouted.

Screemy parts? Never heard of those...I mean there are some really high parts in songs, but I'm sure that's in RB. That's just pitch/octave related I think.

New video in the first post. Nothing huge, it just shows the save file and animation I did.

 

[ccfman2004]

In order to play the custom DLC, do we need a custom version of Rock Band 2 or does a retail original work?

Have you gotten SDHC cards to work yet?

What programming language are you using?

You guys ROCK.

 

[Alexrose]

Also, will we need NTSC versions of Rock Band 1? Mine is PAL, will I still be able to export?

 

[ShakaHeath]

@Mrk:
They look like normal talky parts but they appear as singed parts once exported to RB2 and I believe you have to sing them quite loud in RB1 to get the points.
Look at Sabotage by Beasty Boys. It's supposed to be all talky/non-pitched parts. Though, in RB2 some words/phrases appears pitched and they are followed by a "*".
Replacing the "*" in the lyrics at the end of those screamy parts with a "#" should turn them into talky parts...

I hope this helps!

 

[ShadowChaos]

Great job!
But for the charts, did you notice that RB1 had both talky and screamy parts? screamy parts are considered as the higher possible note for the singer to sing... You might want to find a way to convert these...
check out Are You Gonna Be My Girl from Jet once exported the very first word is supposed to be shouted.

Screemy parts? Never heard of those...I mean there are some really high parts in songs, but I'm sure that's in RB. That's just pitch/octave related I think.

New video in the first post. Nothing huge, it just shows the save file and animation I did.

i think he means talkies, where u just have to enunciate, there is no green line for pitch, much like the entirety of visions

 

[AerialX]

Also, will we need NTSC versions of Rock Band 1? Mine is PAL, will I still be able to export?
As I just told Heathcliff, the PAL version works fine.

QUOTE(Heathcliff @ May 31 2009, 04:43 PM) @Mrk:
They look like normal talky parts but they appear as singed parts once exported to RB2 and I believe you have to sing them quite loud in RB1 to get the points.
Look at Sabotage by Beasty Boys. It's supposed to be all talky/non-pitched parts. Though, in RB2 some words/phrases appears pitched and they are followed by a "*".
Replacing the "*" in the lyrics at the end of those screamy parts with a "#" should turn them into talky parts...

I hope this helps!

Yeah, I just saw that when I played Are You Gonna Be My Girl vox in RB2 Wii. You say that it does pitch them when exported to RB2 on the PS3/360 though? In that case maybe we want to keep them like that for compatibility's sake, though I personally don't care if we "fix" them.

 

[ccfman2004]

@Mrk:
They look like normal talky parts but they appear as singed parts once exported to RB2 and I believe you have to sing them quite loud in RB1 to get the points.
Look at Sabotage by Beasty Boys. It's supposed to be all talky/non-pitched parts. Though, in RB2 some words/phrases appears pitched and they are followed by a "*".
Replacing the "*" in the lyrics at the end of those screamy parts with a "#" should turn them into talky parts...

I hope this helps!

Not to try to get off topic, but could this be why I am having such trouble getting 100% on expert in RB1 on the Vocals in some songs?

I have no problem with the same song in RB2, but in RB1 I can't get 100%.

 

[AerialX]

RB1 exporter works.
Installer into custom (and additional; doesn't conflict with existing songs) DLC slot works.
Quickplay works.

 

[ExLex]

WOW !!!

Awezome guys!

I hope you can release soon for enjoy like u already do

Any trouble with the songs? how many time take the exporter? is this only work with RB1 or work too with track pack?

 

[ShakaHeath]

RB1 exporter works.
Installer into custom (and additional; doesn't conflict with existing songs) DLC slot works.
Quickplay works.

Is the [RB1] tag automatically added by the exporter? I don't really like it...

Other than that, this looks like great work! Keep it up!

 

[AerialX]

Is the [RB1] tag automatically added by the exporter? I don't really like it...

Other than that, this looks like great work! Keep it up!

It's optional, they don't have to be tagged at all if you don't want them to be.
(Though there's no way to really group them otherwise)

 

[ShakaHeath]

Is the [RB1] tag automatically added by the exporter? I don't really like it...

Other than that, this looks like great work! Keep it up!

It's optional, they don't have to be tagged at all if you don't want them to be.
(Though there's no way to really group them otherwise)

In the songs.dta/in the savefile, replace the "^^^" for the pack with "RB1"... Sounds good?

 

[tueidj]

That doesn't do anything.
I think AerialX is talking about how the songs are arranged in the song selection list. If you sort by location there are 2 categories: Download and Disc (or something similar). If the RB1 songs are all tagged the same they will show up in a big clump rather than being scattered throughout the other DLC tracks.