PS4 has a built in battery that will kill your games if it dies

[Deleted member 514389]

No wonder Sony games loose value so quickly *cough cough*

In all honesty though, what a retarded design flaw.
Even the switch utilizes a CMOS Flash chip.
(Albeit it'd be interesting to see how it'd handle a defective case in the CMOS department...)

Oh well, good luck Sony boys.

Oh and: Guess what the PS5's disc drive is paired to (acc to ifixit), thats right: The Motherboard.
Good luck replacing it yourself when it fails.

What a great way to be customer friendly.

 

[sonictopfan]

I'm thinking Sony will wait a very long time before killing the store because they know if someone's battery dies it's game over without the store to reauth. I won't say they won't ever close it though, because it's Sony and they clearly do not give a shit about people preserving their games.

You’re talking about the company that didn’t waste a month after the release of the PS5 to remove their “new games” section on the PS4 despite keeping the “coming soon” section as PS4 games are still being made, I’d give it another year, two top, then PS4 store will officially close down and fuck everyone who didn’t buy a PS5 from a scalper on ebay.

 

[chrisrlink]

and this is why I'm gonna get a Series S and not a PS5 Suck Fony

 

[Xzi]

Oof. It's not the same for PS5, is it?

 

[Deleted member 397813]

fun.

 

[sonictopfan]

and this is why I'm gonna get a Series S and not a PS5 Suck Fony

Only for this reason? With all the new policies and Bull Shift it’s like they’re pegging me to switch to Xbox, and I will, because Funk Sony!

 

[tech3475]

Yes, but you will still have to sign into PSN after replacing the battery to be able to play games again. To sign into PSN you have to be on latest firmware.

I remember Sega Saturn having a cmos battery and mine died, and I had to replace it to prevent it asking you to set the time every time you turned on the system. I would assume the one in the PS4 is better than the one that was in the Saturn. It may last 10-20 years before it dies.

The Saturn uses it’s battery to power the internal save storage flash, I recall seeing a mod which replaces this chip with something more energy efficient.

 

[smf]

Reminds me of the old Capcom arcade boards that had a self destructing ROM where the encryption keys were held in volatile RAM, so people couldn't clone them, but once the battery died so did your game. Except this doesn't seem like it was intentional, but it may as well have been.

Operators have a fixed amount of space to put games and when they stop taking money then it's time to throw it away and replace it. Even though space under your TV is limited, you can choose to keep playing the same console for 20 years on and off. While operating the same game when nobody is playing it is just not going to happen.

It's amazing that so many arcade games did survive (especially as arcades would prefer to smash them up rather than sell it and see a competitor make money out of it). Capcom did have a repair service, I think brazil was the last territory to stop, but you can now do it yourself http://arcadehacker.blogspot.com/2016/09/capcom-cps2-security-programming-guide.html

 

[andyhappypants]

Is it not possible to change the battery while the console is powered up?
I also remember the bad days of the suicide batteries of the CPS2 boards, thank god razoola found a workaround back then otherwise they would all be in landfill now!

http://cps2shock.emu-france.info/ Has all the info still if anyone is interested

#sonyaretwats

 

[Dust2dust]

Can't say I care. Bought PS1 on launch day, PS2 a year after launch, almost never bought a PS3 but eventually did (kind of regret it), never bought a PS4. What's a PS5?

 

[smf]

Is it not possible to change the battery while the console is powered up?
I also remember the bad days of the suicide batteries of the CPS2 boards, thank god razoola found a workaround back then otherwise they would all be in landfill now!

http://cps2shock.emu-france.info/ Has all the info still if anyone is interested

#sonyaretwats

Actually Razoola was particularly damaging to the arcade scene as it involved replacing the original roms with hacked ones which could introduce gameplay differences. People were also assisting the suicide of their boards just to convert them to more expensive games that they wanted.

Now that there is a free fix that uses the original roms, it's much better http://arcadehacker.blogspot.com/2016/09/capcom-cps2-security-programming-guide.html

It doesn't stop people killing them of course, but there is no closed group making money out of it.

 

[godreborn]

Oof. It's not the same for PS5, is it?

most likely is. I'm pretty sure the ps3 also has this problem.

 

[CMDreamer]

Great, another reason to forget about getting a PS4, and considering this kind of backup history, I'm not getting a PS5 either.

Any XBOX related product is out of consideration since I knew the physical disks are only the key/license and most of the time you need to download the game from their servers, that sucks!

 

[godreborn]

the cmos battery in a way is like an anticheat device, because I think it contains the rtc (real time clock). you can get the rtc time on the ps3 with a syscall, but I don't think you can change it like you can on the 3ds. on the 3ds, it does things like track seasonal things in animal crossing and whatnot, so you can't change the actual time on the system to cheat or affect the game.

 

[djpannda]

can't wait for the "help. my ps4 does not work" or "PS4 Fix tutorial" to pop up in 10 years

 

[andyhappypants]

Actually Razoola was particularly damaging to the arcade scene as it involved replacing the original roms with hacked ones which could introduce gameplay differences. People were also assisting the suicide of their boards just to convert them to more expensive games that they wanted.

Now that there is a free fix that uses the original roms, it's much better http://arcadehacker.blogspot.com/2016/09/capcom-cps2-security-programming-guide.html

It doesn't stop people killing them of course, but there is no closed group making money out of it.

Indeed it did, I also was one of those people who managed to obtain a large amount of CPS2 boards that were hacked, I think from memory I was missing around 5 boards from the full CPS2 set. Those were the days

Glad SNK didnt do anything silly like that with MVS carts