Hacking Project Zero/Fatal Frame 5 requires 5.1.2 update

[sj33]

Just a quick heads-up for anybody who was planning to import this game, Zero: Nuregarasu no Miko, also known as Fatal Frame 5 (US) and Project Zero 5 (EU) requires the 5.1.2 update, meaning that you will lose the WiiU webkit exploit. This game is Japanese-only at the moment, so this is particularly warning people with a Japanese console.

For people who do not know, vWii mode obviously remains untouched so vWii exploits still work. Just the webkit exploit is fixed. I decided to update because I decided I'm not so interested in a usermode webkit exploit, vWii still works which is good for me. Other people, decide for yourself.

 

[Bladexdsl]

you can expect every single game from here on to include the latest update

 

[sj33]

True. But I think this is the first? Hence posting.

 

[Janglez311]

I can confirm Hyrule Warriors released yesterday does not include this update.

 

[TeamScriptKiddies]

Just a quick heads-up for anybody who was planning to import this game, Zero: Nuregarasu no Miko, also known as Fatal Frame 5 (US) and Project Zero 5 (EU) requires the 5.1.2 update, meaning that you will lose the WiiU webkit exploit. This game is Japanese-only at the moment, so this is particularly warning people with a Japanese console.

For people who do not know, vWii mode obviously remains untouched so vWii exploits still work. Just the webkit exploit is fixed. I decided to update because I decided I'm not so interested in a usermode webkit exploit, vWii still works which is good for me. Other people, decide for yourself.

Thanks for the info! I wonder if either of the upcoming ODE's will be able to block disc updates? hmmmmmm

 

[TeamScriptKiddies]

I can confirm Hyrule Warriors released yesterday does not include this update.

Nice! Thanks! What firmware are you currently playing hyrule warriors on? I'm on 5.0.0 as I don't wanna lose the webkit exploit. I would like to however pick up this game. I got rid of my 2 dead 360's so now I have a whole bunch of 360 games just collecting dust XD. I can get r***** by trading them into gamestop for hyrule warriors XD

 

[the_randomizer]

Once again, people need not be worried and just update to 5.1.2, as waiting will help a very small percentage of users. There are things being developed, so unless you're a programmer, this shouldn't come as a surprise and it shouldn't add to any update-preventing paranoid. It has been established by many devs that that updating will not ruin one's chances. Disc updates are to be expected.

 

[OriginalHamster]

Kinda pointless import a game that you cant play in an american system.

 

[sj33]

What makes you think everybody in the world owns an American console?

Sorry to be flippant, but it should be pretty obvious that people importing this have to have a compatible console in the first place.

 

[TeamScriptKiddies]

Once again, people need not be worried and just update to 5.1.2, as waiting will help a very small percentage of users. There are things being developed, so unless you're a programmer, this shouldn't come as a surprise and it shouldn't add to any update-preventing paranoid. It has been established by many devs that that updating will not ruin one's chances. Disc updates are to be expected.

For the general public, you are correct good sir. But i'm also a dev/hacker (kinda sorta) and for this very reason, I'm not updating. I want us to get Trinux running in Wii U mode ASAP. Chances are, a full blown kernel exploit will be found and released (for Wii U mode) on earlier firmwares first as those are the most vulnerable. If it means, I don't buy any games for a while, that's fine by me. Trinux is far more important to me then playing the latest games right away (which I can't really afford anyways XD).

 

[sj33]

My assumption is that devs can rework the existing exploit for newer firmware versions, but are sensibly choosing to not release it until there is something useful that can be done with the exploit. No point releasing it to the public right now just for Nintendo to patch it. Previous releases were basically proof of concept.

I updated because I always intended to buy Zero 5 and probably other games too - I'll play those and let the developers finish what they're working on. Then again, I'm not a dev so I can't really do anything with the current exploit anyway!

 

[TeamScriptKiddies]

My assumption is that devs can rework the existing exploit for newer firmware versions, but are sensibly choosing to not release it until there is something useful that can be done with the exploit. No point releasing it to the public right now just for Nintendo to patch it. Previous releases were basically proof of concept.

I updated because I always intended to buy Zero 5 and probably other games too - I'll play those and let the developers finish what they're working on. Then again, I'm not a dev so I can't really do anything with the current exploit anyway!

As far as I know, no full blown kernel exploit for CafeOS currently exists. That being said, its certainly not impossible for someone to have found one and their sitting on it at the moment until "the time is right."

 

[the_randomizer]

For the general public, you are correct good sir. But i'm also a dev/hacker (kinda sorta) and for this very reason, I'm not updating. I want us to get Trinux running in Wii U mode ASAP. Chances are, a full blown kernel exploit will be found and released (for Wii U mode) on earlier firmwares first as those are the most vulnerable. If it means, I don't buy any games for a while, that's fine by me. Trinux is far more important to me then playing the latest games right away (which I can't really afford anyways XD).

i hope that something will be ported to 5.1.2 as I don't want there to be another 3DS-like situation if you know what I mean.

 

[TeamScriptKiddies]

i hope that something will be ported to 5.1.2 as I don't want there to be another 3DS-like situation if you know what I mean.

I hear ya, but honestly, I don't see that happening. However I assume that a full blown exploit will come out for earlier firmwares first and then they will either be ported to later firmwares or have brand new exploits developed for later firmwares

 

[headpie]

Genuinely curious, why should we not expect another 3ds experience? I'll update when smash comes out but until then I want to be safest.

 

[TeamScriptKiddies]

Genuinely curious, why should we not expect another 3ds experience? I'll update when smash comes out but until then I want to be safest.

Well as long as I'm working on the Trinux project, you can expect everything to be out in the open at least with that

 

[GorTesK]

Genuinely curious, why should we not expect another 3ds experience? I'll update when smash comes out but until then I want to be safest.

dito, if smash needs an update, I'll do so, too (note, the normal update prompt can be "ignored" by just disconnecting the internet access and then choosing to start the game without update, but if it really needs an update to start, then you gotta do so)
and concerning your question, basically with the the browser as it is right now, there are still enough access points for us, but so far there hasn't been a public way to gain IOSU access yet anyway, so even the current exploits with older firmwares aren't really getting us anywhere, it's a shame, that those with said access aren't sharing their knowledge

 

[Quicksilver88]

Honestly all I care about ATM is if webkit exploit will be used to obtain ODE keys. If it is then why not release the key dumping tool before the ODE even ships and that way we can dump our keys and update. All I want for my current WiiU is ODE and hacked vWii. If we get a full hack later and I have to go buy a second/older Firmware unit then I will do that but for now would just love ODE so I could load up all my discs and still have updated firmware and be online.

 

[OriginalHamster]

What makes you think everybody in the world owns an American console?

Sorry to be flippant, but it should be pretty obvious that people importing this have to have a compatible console in the first place.

Sorry if my comment sound sarcastic, true is I'm little sad that FF5 is not available in america in english.

 

[loco365]

Sorry if my comment sound sarcastic, true is I'm little sad that FF5 is not available in america in english.

Wasn't it released on the PS1 and GBA?