naehrwert is teasing emuNAND before Atmosphere NX

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    Somewhere, over there!
    Getting tired of the "maybe they're trolling" rhetoric...

    Hope this is private. ;( Me and my over updated and stabilized Switch.
     
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    Emunand is meh.... if it’s a copy of your sysnand then how is it gonna save you from a ban.
     
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    Seems like someone didnt get the concept....
     
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    I don´t know if we are going to need emunand because there aren´t many reasons to use it right now
     
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    People on 1.0.0 or 2.0.0 want to play the newer games without updating
     
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    Because whit a emunand you use the emunand offline whit hacky stuff and the sysnand clean and online.
    Even if you stay offline whit the sysnand, when doing hacky stuff there are internal reports that may or may not be sended to nintendo, we don't know, but whit a offline emunand, those reports remain in the emunand so the sysnand remain clean and pristine to go online, as long as you remain offline the emunand
     
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    I don't know where all these thoughts of trolling originate. It isn't April first so....
    Being skeptical is one thing. But assuming malicious intent from a trusted name is outlandish.
     
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    Have been seeing it in some threads, its kind of annoying...
     
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    You don't seem to know what you're talking about, an Emulated Nand storage uses the exact same crypto and exact same console unique files. It is as is an exact copy of the data on the actual nand chip, a ban on either of those "Nands" would make Online services unusable on the console no matter if you boot from the internal emmc or the sdcard.
     
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    You don't seem to get what im saying, maybe i oversimplified,
    A emunand is a isolated memory from the sysnand, is like having 2 memorys, while they share the same crypto, once the emunand is created they store the reports, the data, etc isolated one from the other, this way you can do dirty stuff in one and keep clean the other, this indeed isolates what happens in the emunand to the sysnand, so if you add to that isolation, the isolation from internet by remainin offline or whitelisted while in emunand, what you do in emunand never reaches neither your sysnand nor nintendo servers, this way when you boot to the sysnand, nothing of what happened on the emunand is on the sysnand, and nothing from the emunand had reached nintendo(sience offline emunand), and if you keep the sysnand clean, then you can go online whit the sysnand whitout risk of ban.

    In a weird way is like having 2 N switchs, one for online and other for hacking, but in only 1 device, whit the difference that a ban on one of those 2 "switchs" whould affect both sience are the same, but if you keep the "hacky switch"(emunand) in a net isolated envoirment(keep offline all the time or whitlisted) then that hacky "switch"(emunand) would never be baned sience nintendo would never know, and the clean "switch"(sysnand) as long as you maintain it clean, would remain, well, clean, and okay for online.

    As long as you don't do idiotic stuff like going online whit the hacky nand or hacking in the clean nand, you should remain okay.

    Sorry for the bad engrish, if any want, feel free to correct me on PM(keep post cleaner)
     
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  15. ShadowOne333

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    You're wrong.
    You may have two different FW versions in each nand, but the unique data of the NAND is shared between sys and emu.
    If one gets banned, ergo the other does.
    Having emunand won't save you from a console specific ban.
     
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    whit the difference that a ban on one of those 2 "switchs" whould affect both sience are the same
    im not wrong, read another time, im not saying that a ban on one does not affect the other, im saying that you can avoid being baned at all in both, one by maintaining it offline and the other by maintaining it clean.
     
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    Oh sorry I was gonna quote the the other post above that one.
    But yeah, basically all emunand will do is to be able to enter online and be on latest fw while keeping sysnand intact, but a ban reaches the console, then you're SOL.
     
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    except you need a low FW to run emunand and you will not be able to play any games on a low sysnand anyways unless it is patched to run games with higher FW requirements

    the only benefit is that you can stay on low sysnand FW to use teatherless warmboot exploits and not need a dongle /phone /PC and RCM jig
    and preserve low FW for possible future coldboot exploit
     
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    Would be useful if there was a hardmod for the Switch... seems like no one wants to develop a hardmod, maybe because it's difficult, not sure...
     
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    Those are 2 different ways of using a emunand, one is for keep a not updated sysnand, other is as a extra protection from ban
    You don't need to remain in a low FW to run emunand, Fusee Gelee works in all versions. you can have a "unthethered" in any version whit a modchip(that acts basically like a dongle but is inside the switch) rebug team is making one. is soldered hardmod.

    Technically you can have both features by having 2 emunand, one clean and online and other dirty and offline, and keep a low sysnand, but im not sure if going online whit a clean emunand is risk-free, so im waiting to see what happens to others in that aspect before jumping to wrong conclusion
     
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