I think no one mentioned this yet but freedom of speech ends exacly where you violate someone elses rights or laws. Freedom of speech doesn't mean what most trumpers think it does.
That and the fact that not only does it end there and no further, it also doesn't even START except for two scenarios mentioned earlier in the thread, neither of which apply to privately-owned social media platforms like Twitter.I think no one mentioned this yet but freedom of speech ends exactly where you violate someone else's rights or laws. Freedom of speech doesn't mean what most trumpers think it does.
or a certain website named after a certain nintendo consoleThat and the fact that not only does it end there and no further, it also doesn't even START except for two scenarios mentioned earlier in the thread, neither of which apply to privately-owned social media platforms like Twitter.
...What's with the single quotes? It happened. The uploading part is still happening and probably won't be done in the next couple days, but it happened.Shortly before Amazon kicked Parler from their service, and it was removed from the Android and Apple App stores, a 70TB dataleak 'happened':
70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers
https://cybernews.com/news/70tb-of-...eos-and-posts-leaked-by-security-researchers/
Nah its just temporaryor a certain website named after a certain nintendo console
Alright, former dictator it is. Along with pathological narcissist, wannabe oligarch, delusional egotist, bigoted prick and all sorts of other rather fitting descriptors.Well, at least there is one upside to Trump getting banned: you can't call him a dictator anymore. Dictators can't be censored.
wannabe dictator*Well, at least there is one upside to Trump getting banned: you can't call him a dictator anymore. Dictators can't be censored.
But what some might want those rights to be make this nebulous. See also the whole "right to not be offended" thing that gets bandied about.I think no one mentioned this yet but freedom of speech ends exacly where you violate someone elses rights or laws. Freedom of speech doesn't mean what most trumpers think it does.
One can still judge said private platform by their adherence to the philosophical notions of free speech.That and the fact that not only does it end there and no further, it also doesn't even START except for two scenarios mentioned earlier in the thread, neither of which apply to privately-owned social media platforms like Twitter.
said article said:The general manager of Twitter in the UK has said that the social network sees itself as "the free speech wing of the free speech party".
Speaking at the Guardian Changing Media Summit on Thursday, Tony Wang said that Twitter takes a "neutral" view of messages posted by its users because of the company's founding principles.
He was asked whether Twitter sidesteps legal issues, including privacy and libel, because it is not a mainstream media company.
"There are Twitter rules about what you can and can't do on the platform," Wang told the conference in London.
"Generally, we remain neutral as to the content because our general council and CEO like to say that we are the free speech wing of the free speech party."
Well, Napoleon had to move to Elba.. (Its a joke... C'mon..)Well, at least there is one upside to Trump getting banned: you can't call him a dictator anymore. Dictators can't be censored.
https://www.dw.com/en/angela-merkel-calls-trump-twitter-ban-problematic/a-56197684The German chancellor said although Twitter was right to add warnings to Trump's posts, the move to permanently suspend his account raises concerns about free speech.
https://www.dw.com/en/us-capitol-riot-donald-trump-defends-remarks-as-totally-appropriate/a-56205366US President Donald Trump said there is "tremendous anger" over the latest bid to impeach him, but added he doesn't want any more violence. He also defended his remarks ahead of the attack as "totally appropriate."
Well, at least there is one upside to Trump getting banned: you can't call him a dictator anymore. Dictators can't be censored.
TOS didnt apply to him for his entire presidency, until it did.He wasn't censored. He freely said what he wanted, which was in violation of the ToS. He had consequences for what he actually was 100% free to say, and did say. He was never censored. Liar.
twitter has a policy for leaders.TOS didnt apply to him for his entire presidency, until it did.
It really should've from the start, to be honest. A set of terms of service that, for the purpose of politics, amount to "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" should be such a comically low bar that a President should be able to abide by it without question. Trump can't seem to open his mouth without inciting hatred in some way (before backpedaling and throwing around shoddy, retroactive excuses for how he "didn't do it"), so he should've been forced to NOT open his mouth online from the beginning unless he could behave better than a petulant child mid-tantrum.TOS didnt apply to him for his entire presidency, until it did.
TOS didnt apply to him for his entire presidency, until it did.
It really should've from the start, to be honest. A set of terms of service that, for the purpose of politics, amount to "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" should be such a comically low bar that a President should be able to abide by it without question. Trump can't seem to open his mouth without inciting hatred in some way (before backpedaling and throwing around shoddy, retroactive excuses for how he "didn't do it"), so he should've been forced to NOT open his mouth online from the beginning unless he could behave better than a petulant child mid-tantrum.
That's not accurate. His posts have been flagged in the past.
https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/public-interestTOS didnt apply to him for his entire presidency, until it did.