Joe Biden is now officially the 46th President of the United States of America

[chrisrlink]

Gotta be careful about that, I found out the US government has and continues to classify those comparisons as "anti-Semitic." Even if you're just talking about the Israeli government/military and Netanyahu. Ridiculous of course, I have made and will continue to make such comparisons. They're straight-up Stormtroopers, jack-booted thugs.

when i meant naz's meant nazi germany not todays neo nazi scumbags

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The problem here is that the thread has replaced the entire subforum. At present, it has less to do with Biden and his administration and more to do with discussions regarding science, astronomy, arguments about the political spectrum, nazism, fascism and 198 different, completely unrelated topics. It's even become a hub for discussing the conflict in Gaza which Biden has absolutely nothing to do with besides his fence sitting. He's elected and inaugurated, has been for months - you're not beating a dead horse, you're beating a fossil.
Threads about specific issues, sure. That's preferable than one mutated catch-all growth that results in cancerous discussions that are off-topic 9 out of 10 times.

should've shurt down when all the conspiracy theorist came out of the woodwork

 

[Darth Meteos]

should've shurt down when all the conspiracy theorist came out of the woodwork

so... when it was first made?

 

[Xzi]

when i meant naz's meant nazi germany not todays neo nazi scumbags

Yeah either way can get you in "trouble," and of course I use the term loosely. Last I checked, we still have freedom of speech in this country and Israel's lobbyists don't get to restrict that however they wish.

 

[tabzer]

"Israeli Ambassador to the UN Danny Danon on Sunday called on the Security Council to condemn the Hamas terror group for its use of children as human shields during mass protests along the Gaza border fence. Danon sent a letter to the top UN council calling on it “to condemn Hamas’s use of civilians and children"

That was in 2018.

This is current.

It maybe true that this is a massacre and/or genocide, but you still have to consider the fact that we live in a world children are given guns and forced to fight in wars for the sake of cowards behind them. Shouting "women and children" like it is only one side's fault can serve as positive reinforcement of such tactics, maybe even advocation.

The US, funding both sides of the conflict, seems only interested in drawing out the conflict with more suffering.

 

[chrisrlink]

so... when it was first made?

more recently to a few months back when tttthousand and valwinzcame and all those other wackjob theorist who began posting alt right propaganda and lies that was debunked time and time again

 

[Acid_Snake]

My reply got deleted even though it had nothing to do with any private PM's. I'll try again. Do you have any links to books or reading material that goes over what socialism, fascism and communism are, who created them, etc ... ? I was able to find this video after a quick search as I've seen it a while ago and it goes over the basics of fascism, but I'd really like to learn more about the subjects. Oh, please don't link to any Wikipedia pages as they change too often for my liking.

- Nazi-Sozi by Goebbels (considered to be the bible of nazism): https://www.amazon.es/Nazi-Sozi-Dr-Joseph-Goebbels/dp/1880881071
- The Doctrine of Fascism by Mussolini where he explains how fascism is a sort of "evolution" of socialism that fixes what he believed were socialism's biggest mistakes. The main key differences being classic marxist socialism and fascism are explained here.
- As for socialism and communism you can read Marx.

There's also the fact that they all started their political careers in the socialist party, where Mussolini was expelled since he was considered far too radical for the socialists of the time.

The Doctrine of Fascism is probably the best read since you can see the socialist roots of fascism but also why fascism ended up opposing socialism (or more like it ends up negating some aspects of socialism and changing it for others -> fascism).
The main difference between fascism and socialism is the cultural aspects.
Fascism is against cultural destruction, it uses cultural symbols for control (the swastika, the roman salute, etc) whereas socialism would rather have the entire country change its culture, history and everything other social aspect.
Socialism considers religion to be "the opium of people", thus in communism it is eliminated but in fascism it is used as another tool for control. This is also why fascism seems to be "far right conservative", but it's just an illusion as they are simply appealing to a countries emotions (historical, cultural and other facts) to gain control of people's mind. Remember that Nazism called itself "the Third Reich", despite it being the first and only Nazi regime in Germany, they were using to the historical facts to appeal to people.

Now when it comes to actual government, they are pretty much the same thing:
- Nationalized means of production. There's barely any private property or respect for it.
- Censored and manipulated mass media (propaganda).
- Full control of all economic aspects of the nation.
- Use of violence against political opponents.
- Use of military force and invasions to further spread the ideology.
I could go on and on and on about how they are pretty much two different ways to practice the same theory, but I think you get the point.

 

[tthousand]

more recently to a few months back when tttthousand and valwinzcame and all those other wackjob theorist who began posting alt right propaganda and lies that was debunked time and time again

you kids didn't debunk nothing... just either regurgitated your red bulls or dodged the topics. Speaking of wackjobs, at least you circle jerkers will get a break when this thread closes.

Cancel culture claims another victim. What a joke. Instead of closing a very popular thread, why not just adjust the topic a tiny bit to fit the thread narrative? Rename the thread to "All Politics, All The Time"... Problem solved!

 

[Deleted member 559230]

you kids didn't debunk nothing... just either regurgitated your red bulls or dodged the topics. Speaking of wackjobs, at least you circle jerkers will get a break when this thread closes.

Cancel culture claims another victim. What a joke. Instead of closing a very popular thread, why not just adjust the topic a tiny bit to fit the thread narrative? Rename the thread to "All Politics, All The Time"... Problem solved!

To be fair most of the subjects being brought up are being brought up because of what Biden is doing. Sure, it's not about him winning anymore, but it is covering what he's done after his win. However, I believe dedicated threads to each of these would serve a better purpose as it would keep things less cluttered and more focused. Those are just my thoughts though.

 

[tthousand]

To be fair most of the subjects being brought up are being brought up because of what Biden is doing. Sure, it's not about him winning anymore, but it is covering what he's done after his win.

Yep, so even if things get a little off-topic, it mostly remains on-topic in nature.

However, I believe dedicated threads to each of these would serve a better purpose as it would keep things less cluttered and more focused. Those are just my thoughts though.

I can see the reasoning behind your thoughts... while in the end it could bring more clutter as multiple threads either end soon and remain inactive, or threads with similar topics get recreated time and time again.

I am fine with keeping it as one thread... even with the clutter, it has been easy enough for everyone to respond to one another.

The thing that gets me is that there is 20 people who have voted... I doubt there is even 20 people participating in this thread. So that means people who do not even post in this thread want to silence it.

Well, the internet is a reflection of society... we have become used to having our voices silenced in the name of what is "right".

 

[tthousand]

Here's an idea... why don't the 13 who voted to close the thread just leave this thread and never come back... and the 7 who want it open can remain to discuss our thoughts civilly?

 

[Deleted member 559230]

Yep, so even if things get a little off-topic, it mostly remains on-topic in nature.

I can see the reasoning behind your thoughts... while in the end it could bring more clutter as multiple threads either end soon and remain inactive, or threads with similar topics get recreated time and time again.

I am fine with keeping it as one thread... even with the clutter, it has been easy enough for everyone to respond to one another.

The thing that gets me is that there is 20 people who have voted... I doubt there is even 20 people participating in this thread. So that means people who do not even post in this thread want to silence it.

Well, the internet is a reflection of society... we have become used to having our voices silenced in the name of what is "right".

I've been lurking for a while before I signed up so I've seen how some members on this board are silenced for being critical or not agreeing with various left wing agendas (such as LGBTQ issues) and that would count as being silenced from cancel culture, but the people in this thread that are actively posting share a broad spectrum of political beliefs. I wouldn't view it as cancelling anything as you're free to go create other threads, just watch out about posting things that go against radical leftist agendas as I've seen plenty of people doing that on this forum that have indeed had their content deleted and/or accounts banned. Honestly, I'm scared to share my personal beliefs due to the fact I don't agree with the majority. Sorta sucks, but what can you do?

 

[tthousand]

I've been lurking for a while before I signed up so I've seen how some members on this board are silenced for being critical or not agreeing with various left wing agendas (such as LGBTQ issues) and that would count as being silenced from cancel culture, but the people in this thread that are actively posting share a broad spectrum of political beliefs. I wouldn't view it as cancelling anything as you're free to go create other threads, just watch out about posting things that go against radical leftist agendas as I've seen plenty of people doing that on this forum that have indeed had their content deleted and/or accounts banned. Honestly, I'm scared to share my personal beliefs due to the fact I don't agree with the majority. Sorta sucks, but what can you do?

This thread has seen more and more members enter the conversation and oppose or question the mainsteam's views. I feel like a lot people are afraid to share their conservative views these days in fear of retaliation from the left side. The problem is the masses are being force fed hate and fear, and so they using these talking point to condescend others and ridicule their beliefs in the name of what is "right". Time and time again they get caught in lies, and people are waking up to what is really going on, slowly but surely.

Just look at this post by PBS's YT account, which is a left leaning platform with a left leaning audience. Even the left side is starting to see the veil lifting, and the seams coming apart on the stage.

FYI, it's not like I am friends with tons of people out here in the real world, but out of the small group I have, three lifelong democrats I personally know in the real world voted Trump over Biden... that speaks volumes to me.

 

[Deleted member 559230]

This thread has seen more and more members enter the conversation and oppose or question the mainsteam's views. I feel like a lot people are afraid to share their conservative views these days in fear of retaliation from the left side. The problem is the masses are being force fed hate and fear, and so they using these talking point to condescend others and ridicule their beliefs in the name of what is "right". Time and time again they get caught in lies, and people are waking up to what is really going on, slowly but surely.

Just look at this post by PBS's YT account, which is a left leaning platform with a left leaning audience. Even the left side is starting to see the veil lifting, and the seams coming apart on the stage.

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FYI, it's not like I am friends with tons of people out here in the real world, but out of the small group I have, three lifelong democrats I personally know in the real world voted Trump over Biden... that speaks volumes to me.

I sure as hell don't care for the us vs them mentality the left has chosen nor do I condone what they do when they attack people for having opposing views, but I really don't think this thread being closed is related to cancel culture or the left in general.

As for Biden's popularity, it seems he does get a pass for many of the same things people attacked Trump for specifically kids in cages and COVID-19 deaths. Under Trump it was all Trump's fault, but now that Biden is President it seems these sorts of things are overlooked.

I'm glad though that Trump exposed how fake the mainstream media is and am glad that some on the left are starting to realize they've been being lied to for decades. Maybe that's not enough to get them to switch sides, but I'm an independent so I don't really care if you're left or right. I just don't like being silenced for having views that aren't popular or that small minorities deem offensive (as they simply deem them offensive in an attempt to control others and I don't like manipulative liars).

 

[Valwinz]

Good news
Judge Orders 145,000 Absentee Ballots UNSEALED in Fulton County, Georgia

 

[tthousand]

Good news
Judge Orders 145,000 Absentee Ballots UNSEALED in Fulton County, Georgia

Call it a hunch, but I have a feeling this guy will not be president this time next year.

 

[KingVamp]

Good news
Judge Orders 145,000 Absentee Ballots UNSEALED in Fulton County, Georgia

Did you give up on Arizona yet? Seems like all they have done is waste machines.

 

[Lacius]

Call it a hunch, but I have a feeling this guy will not be president this time next year.

There is literally zero evidence to think there was any widespread fraud, and the results of the election in numerous states have already survived actually legitimate audits.

What's happening in Arizona is a joke, and despite it being the joke that it is, it hasn't found any evidence of widespread fraud.

If you seriously believe Joe Biden will not be president this time next year because of voter fraud, then I have a bridge to sell you.

 

[Xzi]

Call it a hunch, but I have a feeling this guy will not be president this time next year.

Not the way it works kiddo. The window for providing evidence of vote discrepancies and/or fraud has long since closed. "Audits" conducted by a bunch of nutjobs and conspiracy theorists cannot change the officially recorded results, and if there's too much deviation by their count then everybody will know they manipulated the totals.

It's all just one long con to try to erode trust and confidence in democracy.

 

[tthousand]

There is literally zero evidence to think there was any widespread fraud, and the results of the election in numerous states have already survived actually legitimate audits.

What's happening in Arizona is a joke, and despite it being the joke that it is, it hasn't found any evidence of widespread fraud.

If you seriously believe Joe Biden will not be president this time next year because of voter fraud, then I have a bridge to sell you.

If you are selling, I ain't buying.

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Not the way it works kiddo. The window for providing evidence of vote discrepancies and/or fraud has long since closed. "Audits" conducted by a bunch of nutjobs and conspiracy theorists cannot change the officially recorded results, and if there's too much deviation by their count then everybody will know they manipulated the totals.

It's all just one long con to try to erode faith and trust in democracy.

Left wing libtards get a pass, but not right wing nutjobs. Check.

 

[Lacius]

If you are selling, I ain't buying.

My point was definitely not that you should buy a bridge from me. In fact, part of my point was that you shouldn't.