Hate ads on national television

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Mar 26, 2013
  1. J-Machine
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    So I woke up today to find the news talk about this American telivision ad regarding a "Rainbow coalition against gay marriage".



    Apparently the leader of this movement believes he is fighting against this "lovingly" but all I see is a unconstitutional (in my country) advert.

    My question is if this is an isolated case or if this is normal for American television and if those from other countries have seen similar ads. It just seems unreal something like this could happen in this day and age.
     


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    Freedom of speech doesn't imply that it has to be intelligent or even nice. People all over America say mean and stupid things day in and day out. It's one of the things that makes this country hated by others. It's the most treasured right here. The ability to speak your mind. Even if your mind is backwards.
     
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    Was it on an American Channel like ABC, NBC, CBS, etc.? Because that would explain why you saw it even you you live in Canada.

    Oh and before I forget.

    inb4christianityhateflamewar

    EDIT: Totally misread your post. Ugh. Mornings.
     
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    I have no problem with this. People are entitled to have their own opinion. This isn't China, at least not yet. I think the gay marriage bullies wish that wasn't the case though
     
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    I don't see why people need commercials complaining about gays considering they're already pretty much rejected by "Normal" people.

    If anything the opposite needs to be shown on TV, since a bunch of bumbling idiots believe everything they see on TV, from UFOs to Conspiracy Theories.
     
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    strange. In Canada we have a freedom of speech so long as it does not discriminate on a person's race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability. There are exceptions of course but freedom of hate speech as a whole are not a part of our constitution.
     
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    Seriously, this is 2013. Homosexuality shouldn't be an issue anymore.
     
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    I'll admit I wasn't showing my a game in the game of undivided attention. They could have meant that stuff like that was made in the past or maybe the commercial is being rebroadcast-ed due to the whole supreme court thing regarding two cases that have something to do with gay marriage. I'll try to catch the story again to see what they were talking about.
     
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    Freedom of speech, even if its disagreeable, is held as one of our most important, invaluable rights.

    That's not to say there aren't limits. Obscenity can still be subject to censorship (it varies on a case-by-case basis), and speech can be restricted if it's seen as inciting violence (This ad is "fine" since it advocates for political action only. If it instead called for people to "Burn the faggots!" or something along those lines, the situation would be completely different). There's some more technicalities and nuances, but in general, speech in the US is less limited than in many other countries.

    Free speech is considered to be a fundamental right, and as much as organizations like NOM (or the KKK, or Neo Nazi groups, and so on) might sicken me, that's just the trade off. When everyone can speak their mind, what you hear won't always be pleasant.
     
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    Well I just saw the news spot again and they say nothing about this being an ad from the past or even if it's currently being shown in America. They do however are presenting it as simply one of the examples of the opposition seen. It's almost as if they are suggesting it's a current ad but at the same time hiding any information beyond the fact it exists.

    Edit: Just called the cbc asking for clarification on whether that commercial is being shown currently or not. If they address this I'll post it later.
     
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    Guys this is a serious issue! If I am allowed to marry my boyfriend we might actually live our normal lives in our normal manor, and nothing catastrophic will happen to the world!
    Our lives will be normal and continue to have no effect on anyone other than ourselves!

    Think of the normality!
     
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    Bully.
     
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    Commercials: why I stopped watching t.v. completely and got adblockplus on my computer. :)
     
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    Personally I don't believe in marriages.
    I got me reasons.

    But seriously.
    Let people be who they are!
    Malexmale/femalexfemale is no different from malexfemale ._.

    If they want to get married and are happy that way then who are you to decide!?
    You can't control peoples happiness.
     
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    This thread will end well.
     
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    I think the real problem is the word "marriage" itself and what it means to people. The religious to a fault (has anyone ever met a true christian?) believe marriage is the holy union between a man and a woman for the sole purpose of allowing those two to have sex but only for family making (sex for fun is shunned while sex for kids is supported).

    Meanwhile you have the average persons definition of marriage which is an act in which two people show their love for one another by sharing their lives and everything they come to own/experience. The law furthers the role of marriage by grouping these peoples identities and assets (census, taxes, benefits etc.. depending on where you live/work). Also, depending on where you live the prerequisites for who can marry are different.

    I just feel if we kept the term "marriage" as a religious thing but allowed legal unions between two people under a different name it would ease some of the butt hurt but then again marriage is a powerful word that many see as a personal positive to attain in life, irregardless of personal orientation so I doubt it's a simple matter of semantics though it would be a start.
     

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