Dutch hackers to create their own virtual ISP

[coolness]

Dutch hackers want to create their own virtual internet service provider

Three Dutch hackers are planning to create their own virtual provider. Limesco has to set itself apart by letting customers talk about the policy of the service and the implementation of open technologies

Subscribers have to be able to talk about the current affairs through a kind of subscriber's council, according to the three students, which are all involved in the hacking community one way or another, in an interview with tweakers.net. "Current ISPs are very closed and they make many decisions based on profit. We want to be a community, where subscribers themselves can have a say in the way of the provider." says co-founder Sjors Gielen.

Along that, the founders want to implement techniques that current ISPs don't provide. "With mobile internet, customers would be able to do their own routing." is Gedriaan Mulder's opinion. "That way, they can choose whether or not they use IPv6. They can set up a VPN as well via 3G, so that the VPN goes from the caller to the gateway. That way you're sure that the connection is secure, from the beginning to the end."

A subscription would most probably consist of a periodic payment added up by the amount of bandwith the user has used." It isn't our goal to be the cheapest," says Mark van Cuijk. "We do want to be the most transparent. We aim for people that have a lot of experience with IT, and IT-specialists. We also keep privacy in mind while making our plans

The mvno has not been founded yet. The three students are still researching one last time to see if this plan has a chance to succeed and what the structure will be. They want to figure out as well what want potential customers want. They will decide whether or not they will do it in the beginning of July. After that the founders want to find people with the same mindset so that they can begin their service

The hackers eventual goal is to encourage other countries to do the same. "That way we can roam for local costs on shared networks. It would be actually be very feasible. We hope that the idea will catch on." If it will catch on, this will send a strong message to other ISPs. "We hope that they will implement some of our ideas, that would be a great outcome."

thanks to shadowmanwkp for the translation

 

[shadowmanwkp]

The google translation is kidna crappy, so here's my version of the translation, I hope it's a bit more legible

edit: it's now the first post

 

[coolness]

The google translation is kidna crappy, so here's my version of the translation, I hope it's a bit more legible

Spoiler

Dutch hackers want to create their own virtual internet service provider

Three Dutch hackers are planning to create their own virtual provider. Limesco has to set itself apart by letting customers talk about the policy of the service and the implementation of open technologies

Subscribers have to be able to talk about the current affairs through a kind of subscriber's council, according to the three students, which are all involved in the hacking community one way or another, in an interview with tweakers.net. "Current ISPs are very closed and they make many decisions based on profit. We want to be a community, where subscribers themselves can have a say in the way of the provider." says co-founder Sjors Gielen.

Along that, the founders want to implement techniques that current ISPs don't provide. "With mobile internet, customers would be able to do their own routing." is Gedriaan Mulder's opinion. "That way, they can choose whether or not they use IPv6. They can set up a VPN as well via 3G, so that the VPN goes from the caller to the gateway. That way you're sure that the connection is secure, from the beginning to the end."

A subscription would most probably consist of a periodic payment added up by the amount of bandwith the user has used." It isn't our goal to be the cheapest," says Mark van Cuijk. "We do want to be the most transparent. We aim for people that have a lot of experience with IT, and IT-specialists. We also keep privacy in mind while making our plans

The mvno has not been founded yet. The three students are still researching one last time to see if this plan has a chance to succeed and what the structure will be. They want to figure out as well what want potential customers want. They will decide whether or not they will do it in the beginning of July. After that the founders want to find people with the same mindset so that they can begin their service

The hackers eventual goal is to encourage other countries to do the same. "That way we can roam for local costs on shared networks. It would be actually be very feasible. We hope that the idea will catch on." If it will catch on, this will send a strong message to other ISPs. "We hope that they will implement some of our ideas, that would be a great outcome."

a nice can i use it as the first post?

 

[shadowmanwkp]

The google translation is kidna crappy, so here's my version of the translation, I hope it's a bit more legible

Spoiler

Dutch hackers want to create their own virtual internet service provider

Three Dutch hackers are planning to create their own virtual provider. Limesco has to set itself apart by letting customers talk about the policy of the service and the implementation of open technologies

Subscribers have to be able to talk about the current affairs through a kind of subscriber's council, according to the three students, which are all involved in the hacking community one way or another, in an interview with tweakers.net. "Current ISPs are very closed and they make many decisions based on profit. We want to be a community, where subscribers themselves can have a say in the way of the provider." says co-founder Sjors Gielen.

Along that, the founders want to implement techniques that current ISPs don't provide. "With mobile internet, customers would be able to do their own routing." is Gedriaan Mulder's opinion. "That way, they can choose whether or not they use IPv6. They can set up a VPN as well via 3G, so that the VPN goes from the caller to the gateway. That way you're sure that the connection is secure, from the beginning to the end."

A subscription would most probably consist of a periodic payment added up by the amount of bandwith the user has used." It isn't our goal to be the cheapest," says Mark van Cuijk. "We do want to be the most transparent. We aim for people that have a lot of experience with IT, and IT-specialists. We also keep privacy in mind while making our plans

The mvno has not been founded yet. The three students are still researching one last time to see if this plan has a chance to succeed and what the structure will be. They want to figure out as well what want potential customers want. They will decide whether or not they will do it in the beginning of July. After that the founders want to find people with the same mindset so that they can begin their service

The hackers eventual goal is to encourage other countries to do the same. "That way we can roam for local costs on shared networks. It would be actually be very feasible. We hope that the idea will catch on." If it will catch on, this will send a strong message to other ISPs. "We hope that they will implement some of our ideas, that would be a great outcome."

a nice can i use it as the first post?

Go ahead, I don't mind

 

[FAST6191]

Interesting, this is not the first attempt at such a thing- some of the various pirate party (as in the political group/"movement") groups have had people try to spin such things out of them but they did not amount to much yet.

I wish them best of luck and although I have never been sad to see an ISP/telco go bankrupt this could get very tricky lest it turn into a spam hub in the middle of Europe (it is easy enough to block/vet/impede all Chinese, African and Russian IP addresses but slap bang in the middle of Europe is more tricky) not to mention unless they somehow roll their own infrastructure (oh how I would love to sit in on that investment meeting) and are willing to challenge some of the laws (both nationally and some of the stuff the European parliament has been up to) such assurances are going to be hard to sit behind.

 

[shakirmoledina]

its kinda dangerous. Other countries, as FAST identified, will find this quite threatening and probably something behind the workings will be limited. The structure for running will be a real issue esp as ppl are free to do what they want... after all they are hackers.