Homebrew DSi Common Key revealed

[Metalik]

What that KEYS will give us? Flashcard-less gaming or what?

 

[SifJar]

dsi mode for flashcarts isn't really cool to me. i like the idea of installing custom channels. i want some dsi emulators. that would be cool.
.....That would be DSi mode.

In DS mode, the extra processor power and RAM is locked out, essentially making it a DS.


He said he wasn't interested in DSi mode for flashcards. In other words, he wants to be able to install custom channels from a free exploit, with no expense involved.

What that KEYS will give us? Flashcard-less gaming or what?

QUOTE(SifJar @ Jan 13 2011, 05:54 PM)

The hackers have had the key for ages, they just didn't make it public unnecessarily and cause a commotion with people thinking "Yay, now we get DSi mode homebrew".

NEWSFLASH: This does NOT allow flash carts to run in DSi mode. This does NOT allow code to run without a flash cart or exploit. This does NOT allow you to install a custom channel.

It ONLY allows you to decrypt existing DSi stuff. That is IT.

EDIT: More emphasis, need to make sure this isn't over rated etc.

Read the topic more

 

[stanleyopar2000]

give me free DSiWare and a few homebrew perks, and custom firmware channels and I'm good

 

[ismaelWii]

If I put the System Menu into my Flashcart, it's name (SM) is Nintendo DS Demonstration, and it have an interrogation icon.

 

[stanleyopar2000]

Love the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy reference.

 

[SifJar]

Love the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy reference.

It defeats the point of the tool though. With the Wii, the common key generating tools made you type "42" or "42e" because that was part of the key, so the program didn't actually have the full key in it, it had most of it and generated the full thing with what you gave it. This program DOES have the full key in it. It just asks a random question and generates the full key. So its not more illegal than posting the key itself, as that is essentially what happened here.

 

[stanleyopar2000]

nyugh.. stuck on Starting NUS Download..Please be patient?

 

[ether2802]

Well now that we have the key, we can sign code of our own, we just need now an exploit, and a way to bypass the fakesign check...!!


....wich, without a vulnerable IOS at this point, can take another year or so...!

 

[SifJar]

Well now that we have the key, we can sign code of our own, we just need now an exploit, and a way to bypass the fakesign check...!!


....wich, without a vulnerable IOS at this point, can take another year or so...!

DSi doesn't have IOS, so you'll be along time finding one thats "vulnerable" (vulnerable to what exactly? there are no public exploits on that sort of level on DSi)

 

[WiiUBricker]

So has anyone managed to extract graphics off the dsi system menu?

 

[Bent]

Love the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy reference.

It defeats the point of the tool though. With the Wii, the common key generating tools made you type "42" or "42e" because that was part of the key, so the program didn't actually have the full key in it, it had most of it and generated the full thing with what you gave it. This program DOES have the full key in it. It just asks a random question and generates the full key. So its not more illegal than posting the key itself, as that is essentially what happened here.

You sure it doesn't just do some arithmatic on it? I always figured they basically took a number that when multiplied by 42 (or some other operation) the result was the key. That would seem to be more of the legal way to do it to me. But I never actually analyzed the programs to see what they are doing.

 

[SifJar]

Love the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy reference.

It defeats the point of the tool though. With the Wii, the common key generating tools made you type "42" or "42e" because that was part of the key, so the program didn't actually have the full key in it, it had most of it and generated the full thing with what you gave it. This program DOES have the full key in it. It just asks a random question and generates the full key. So its not more illegal than posting the key itself, as that is essentially what happened here.

You sure it doesn't just do some arithmatic on it? I always figured they basically took a number that when multiplied by 42 (or some other operation) the result was the key. That would seem to be more of the legal way to do it to me. But I never actually analyzed the programs to see what they are doing.

Nah in the Wii ones it just appended the rest of the key to it, and in this one it just has the key in there and spits it out when you type in the number. I was talking to the creator of this thing and he admitted what I suspected.

 

[stanleyopar2000]

Love the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy reference.

It defeats the point of the tool though. With the Wii, the common key generating tools made you type "42" or "42e" because that was part of the key, so the program didn't actually have the full key in it, it had most of it and generated the full thing with what you gave it. This program DOES have the full key in it. It just asks a random question and generates the full key. So its not more illegal than posting the key itself, as that is essentially what happened here.

You sure it doesn't just do some arithmatic on it? I always figured they basically took a number that when multiplied by 42 (or some other operation) the result was the key. That would seem to be more of the legal way to do it to me. But I never actually analyzed the programs to see what they are doing.

Nah in the Wii ones it just appended the rest of the key to it, and in this one it just has the key in there and spits it out when you type in the number. I was talking to the creator of this thing and he admitted what I suspected.

careful...if shit goes sour and Nintendo wants justice for this "travesty" guess who they will ask to find out the identity of the hacker

Like all 3 big billion $$$ companies..they are sore losers when they lose...take Sony for example

 

[SifJar]

Love the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy reference.

It defeats the point of the tool though. With the Wii, the common key generating tools made you type "42" or "42e" because that was part of the key, so the program didn't actually have the full key in it, it had most of it and generated the full thing with what you gave it. This program DOES have the full key in it. It just asks a random question and generates the full key. So its not more illegal than posting the key itself, as that is essentially what happened here.

You sure it doesn't just do some arithmatic on it? I always figured they basically took a number that when multiplied by 42 (or some other operation) the result was the key. That would seem to be more of the legal way to do it to me. But I never actually analyzed the programs to see what they are doing.

Nah in the Wii ones it just appended the rest of the key to it, and in this one it just has the key in there and spits it out when you type in the number. I was talking to the creator of this thing and he admitted what I suspected.

careful...if shit goes sour and Nintendo wants justice for this "travesty" guess who they will ask to find out the identity of the hacker

Like all 3 big billion $$$ companies..they are sore losers when they lose...take Sony for example

The guy who released the tool did so on a forum with the username "daTrollR" and then talked on IRC as "socram888", and then posted in his original thread that he had done so. The identity is no secret. Beyond those usernames though, i don't think anyone knows much.

 

[stanleyopar2000]

oh ... -

grabbing [.censored file format]

Download Failed : [.censored file format]

Reason: (401) Unauthorized


...what's this about?

I don't think I'm entering the right information for the Title ID.

(it's 4 letters..but it still is not working!)

I typed in a non-existant TitleID "BLAH" and it said the same error

 

[twiztidsinz]

Love the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy reference.

It defeats the point of the tool though. With the Wii, the common key generating tools made you type "42" or "42e" because that was part of the key, so the program didn't actually have the full key in it, it had most of it and generated the full thing with what you gave it. This program DOES have the full key in it. It just asks a random question and generates the full key. So its not more illegal than posting the key itself, as that is essentially what happened here.

Not true at all.

Quite simply put, the fact that you had to enter part of the key means it's more likely to contain the key (or the remaining part of the key) because you can't (easily) encrypt something with a partial value and have the output contain the value.
This program could do something along the lines of: [ 2A73623409B45 * userinput ] & [6865E727FC304E * userinput ]
Sure the key COULD be in there plain, but just as easily 'encrypted' in that manner.

 

[Sarvesh50]

2011: The Year of the Hackers

 

[SifJar]

Love the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy reference.

It defeats the point of the tool though. With the Wii, the common key generating tools made you type "42" or "42e" because that was part of the key, so the program didn't actually have the full key in it, it had most of it and generated the full thing with what you gave it. This program DOES have the full key in it. It just asks a random question and generates the full key. So its not more illegal than posting the key itself, as that is essentially what happened here.

Not true at all.

Quite simply put, the fact that you had to enter part of the key means it's more likely to contain the key (or the remaining part of the key) because you can't (easily) encrypt something with a partial value and have the output contain the value.
This program could do something along the lines of: [ 2A73623409B45 * userinput ] & [6865E727FC304E * userinput ]
Sure the key COULD be in there plain, but just as easily 'encrypted' in that manner.

Well the creator of the tool confirmed that it has the key within it in its entirety.

 

[chyyran]

You people make it look like as if this is gonna fully hack the DSi when it's barely step 1 of doing so.

This was the difficult step dude, now comes the easier part

This wasn't the difficult step. TT have had the key since September 2009. ( Go to http://www.whois.net/ and run a "whois" on the dsi common key with a .com - can't give the link to the whois as that'd have the common key in it). Seeing as they haven't been able to do that much, it shows that this is of little use.

And BTW, to the people talking about Cyclo's DSi mode flash card and how this key will allow all flash cards to do that (which it very much won't, but that's not actually what I'm going to say): Speculation is that their flash card is a clone of the game "Cooking Coach" with a modified version of the save game exploit payload released by wintermute ages ago, modified to load code from the internal micro SD card slot. Just a vaguely interesting side note, quite unrelated to the topic at hand

They haven't been able to do that much, or They didn't care about doing that much? What will DSi homebrew offer? More RAM, SD Card access and Camera? TT didn't even care anymore. Look at their hackmii blog. They only had like 2-3 articles on the DSi. DSi isn't even formatted properly, they have it written as "dsi". Now that it's released, people who do care can actually make some progress.

 

[evandixon]

By the way, linking to a tool that creates the key isn't less legal than just posting it, so (GBAtemp staff), you may want to remove the link.