[POLL] 2020 U.S. Presidential Election

AkGBA · Nov 2, 2020

UltraSUPRA said:
A great idea on paper, but imagine what California would be like without any stronger form of government keeping Cuomo in check.

California ? Cuomo ?

What did I miss ?

UltraSUPRA · Nov 2, 2020

AkGBA said:
California ? Cuomo ?

Isn't Cuomo the governor of California? Or am I even dumber than I thought?

AkGBA · Nov 2, 2020

Seems so.
He's governor of New York state.

UltraSUPRA · Nov 2, 2020

AkGBA said:
Seems so.
He's governor of New York state.

Both are hellholes. Close enough.

Shulk95 · Nov 2, 2020

Trump is winning! keep voting fellow Americans that love this country! The fake media(including Fox News) are gonna keep quoting fake polls because they are trying to discourage people from voting.... BUT..ITS NOT WORKING!!!!

This is a repeat of 2016! but FAR more support behind Trump this time! GOD BLESS THE USA!
TRUMP 2020

FAST6191 · Nov 2, 2020

Acid_Snake said:
* They claim to be in favor of feminism but at the same time burned down cities to protest the death by overdose of a dangerous criminal that pointed a loaded gun to a pregnant lady. Either you defend women or you defend George Floyd, you can't do both unless you are a hypocritical sociopath that just wants to look good first and foremost.

* Having a strong military is important, in war time, but we aren't in war time, what do you need a strong military for?

The military is basically the stand in for what everywhere else views as social programs.
Want healthcare? Oh look military has that.
Want tertiary eduction? Oh look GI bill.
Want pension? That too.

That might be closer to something resembling national service but if you are going for causes of social mobility in the US then the military is a massive component of it. Also soaks up a bit of overproduction on the part of industrial concerns (see the industrial part of military-industrial -- as you don't have Chinese, now Vietnamese, slave labour prices for labour and automation is probably about 10 years out there (50-60 if you could even predict that far following world war 2 and Vietnam).

As far as protesting as the per the example there.
Looking back now then maybe. Was it the information presented at the time? Equally you can be an arsehole but still be wronged -- you can shoot 50 people but stand there at the end with no weapons and hands clear and should the police do the "remember there kids to the head double tap" routine then you still have been wronged. Mob justice and judge jury and executioner type setups are not great.

Lacius · Nov 2, 2020

Shulk95 said:
Trump is winning! keep voting fellow Americans that love this country! The fake media(including Fox News) are gonna keep quoting fake polls because they are trying to discourage people from voting.... BUT..ITS NOT WORKING!!!! This is a repeat of 2016! but FAR more support behind Trump this time! GOD BLESS THE USA!
TRUMP 2020

Trump and the Republicans are the ones discouraging people from voting.

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UltraSUPRA said:
Both are hellholes. Close enough.

Calling any state a hellhole is demonstrably and laughably ignorant.

UltraSUPRA · Nov 2, 2020

Lacius said:
Calling any state a hellhole is demonstrably and laughably ignorant.

One state banned having a bottle of soda that's too big.
The other has people taking a dump on the street.
Both have sent COVID patients to nursing homes.

Lacius · Nov 2, 2020

UltraSUPRA said:
One state banned having a bottle of soda that's too big.
The other has people taking a dump on the street.
Both have sent COVID patients to nursing homes.

No, a state never banned large bottles of soda. I'll respond to you after you fact-check your post and post corrections.

IncredulousP · Nov 2, 2020

Lacius said:
Calling any state a hellhole is demonstrably and laughably ignorant.

I dunno I lived in West Virginia for a few months and that place is a complete shithole.

Acid_Snake · Nov 2, 2020

FAST6191 said:
As far as protesting as the per the example there.
Looking back now then maybe. Was it the information presented at the time? Equally you can be an arsehole but still be wronged -- you can shoot 50 people but stand there at the end with no weapons and hands clear and should the police do the "remember there kids to the head double tap" routine then you still have been wronged. Mob justice and judge jury and executioner type setups are not great.

The thing is George Floyd was not "with his hands up at the end", he was resisting arrest the whole time and using force himself til the very end.
More than once I have been confronted by the police for smoking weed and drinking alcohol in public, never have I been physically attacked, not even fined. Know why? Because at all times I treated the police with respect and understanding that they were doing their jobs and I tried my best to make it easier on them: I presented them with all the weed I had, I didn't lie to them, I didn't try to run away, I didn't try to fight with them, I just let them do their job and take punishment for my actions (which I didn't because I wasn't doing anything really bad or violent). I have also done martial arts before and let me tell you that if you are being restrained and you can't even breathe you won't have strength to resist. That guy had kept on going trying and going, he didn't show any remorse or intents to take responsibility and kept trying to fuck thing up to the very end.

Hanafuda · Nov 2, 2020

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UltraSUPRA · Nov 2, 2020

Lacius said:
No, a state never banned large bottles of soda. I'll respond to you after you fact-check your post and post corrections.

And so I did. Here's what I got right.

New York tried to ban sweet drinks of over 16 ounces back in 2012. (https://www.cnbc.com/id/100532785)

Here's what I got wrong.

It was the city, not the state.
It may or may not have been rejected.

crimpshrine · Nov 3, 2020

Happy election day!

gregory-samba · Nov 3, 2020

Well, it's election day! Many of you have probably noticed the delay in USPS mail this entire year and that's due to this stupid non-deadly Chinese Wuhan Corona Virus. It was bad before election time and now due to the fact people are unrealistically scared to leave their houses there's tens of millions of ballots being mailed in. It sorta sucks that we have some States that have ruled they can accept ballots for 6 days after today so I'm not sure how that will effect the results. I've personally been waiting on something that was mailed two Friday's ago so I'm not that hopeful for speedy results, which really sucks as these same people who are voting have no issues waiting in line at the stores they visit.

Oh well, it is what it is. Hopefully there's no wide spread voter fraud and hopefully Biden goes back on his word and doesn't contest the election results simply because he lost, which is something he claimed he would do and has already formed a legal team with over 600 lawyers to challenge the election even if there's no proof there's any voter fraud. Premeditated attacks should be no surprise to anyone as the Liberals planned on impeaching Trump before he even took office for no reason other than the fact they lost the election. They are sorry losers so it wouldn't surprise me if Trump wins that Biden will refuse to accept the results. I also hope there's no wide spread cheating so Trump won't have to contest the results either.

Unlike these liberals and conservatives that can't seem to respect the Presidents as of late, if Biden wins I will respect him because he'll be the President of the United States and that's a position that has earned all sorts of respect. I will gladly call whomever wins my President and will wish them the best of luck. I know this is something bias children can't understand, but I was taught in school how to think and wasn't simply instructed what to think. It sucks you kids got a bad education in that regard, but maybe one day you'll grow up and stop being so petty.

Joe88 said:
There was no one ramming the bus, or trying to run it off the road no matter what left wing media outlets and rando twitter accounts want to claim. A white suv and a black truck with trump flags were engaging in roadrage right behind a biden bus.
Here is the alternate view of the incident. The other one which barely catches it and is constantly off camera.

https://streamable.com/wef3n8

The white SUV is clearly the instigator, switches lanes to the right, black truck pulls in, then white suv tries to go back and cut the truck off when there is not enough room for the white suv, white suv is clearly in the middle of the lane divider and continues to make contact with the truck and kept trying to cut it off, the driver had to have heard that, the black truck is no better though for pushing the suv back though, it could have let him back in the lane.

By now you should expect anything the left is reporting to be not even remotely correct. Their tactic is to take something and twist it up into something that happened while bashing Trump and their audience is too stupid to realize they're being manipulated and lied to.

wartutor said:
My best piece of evidence is that they are polititions. They all (and i mean both sides here) do nothing but lie and deceive. If you dont know that you have been living under a rock your entire life. You can try to say its not true, just hope your pants dont catch fire in front of your computer.

Indeed and this is why I like Trump. Trump isn't playing their silly games because he's not a politician. The economy is doing so well even in these trying times because Trump understands business, though I admit his foreign policy isn't ideal, but then there's the mid east peace deals.

Shulk95 said:
monkeyman4412 completely made that up! XD my gosh kid, stop LYING. In less than 48 hours Donald Trump will win and you and Lacius can speak with therapists about yalls Trump derangement syndrome. I know the thought of Trump really being used by God, being victorious and taking back our country just burns you and Lacius up... scares you.. As we near the end of the age of grace, prophecy is unfolding in our faces quickly... it should scare you. It scares Satan himself. Just as you don't believe, neither does Satan. He believes he has gotten away with EVERYTHING, going all the way back. But come judgement day. He will face the same fate as all who reject our Lord and choose not to repent and accept the gift of salvation. As Christians live for the Lord, your choosing to live for the Devil. But just know everyone left will have to stand before God and admit Jesus is Lord before being cast into the lake of fire, including satan himself. Then they will fall forever, burning, crying, demons biting them for all eternity.... while us who accepted God and lived for him, we will live happily beyond imagination. God has made it SO easy for us. This is the age of grace. Things couldn't of been laid out easier for us. Something that we've all heard our whole lives is "Now is the time of salvation, you never know when God is coming back to get us." But we didn't have much things that we could see for first hand proof that we were approaching the rapture... but things have now changed, now all you have to do is pick up the bible and read. We are witnessing things directly from God's word! Trump is doing things that the bible list in the VERY end of the age of grace. The rapture is extremely close and it would be extremely unwise to ignore these signs... so... I suggest to you.. and whoever else is lost... repent now and accept our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ into your life. I am no preacher, I wasn't called for that role... But i still witness to you now... God is all our God, not just for us Christians. TRUMP 2020 GOD BLESS US.

God bless you. I hope Trump does win again. You're also right about Satan and his disciples. If you haven't accepted God into your heart and live a life of sin you're going to be miserable for the duration of your short time on this earth. The bad part is that these miserable liberals aren't happy unless they are telling other people how to think or what to do and that only provides them with a momentary respite from the way they feel. If you take away the drugs they're consuming they are full of content and jealousy. Liberals embrace the deadly sins so it's no surprise they are miserable beings.

Shulk95 said:
LOL you actually think Trump is gonna let the Democratic/Socialist party cheat by saying that a bunch of mail in voters haven't been counted and toss in a bunch of fraudulent ballots?? The democrats have a history of cheating during elections...Seriously? COME ON Trump has shot down all the cheating these dems have tried, including the Russian collusion impeachment crap. You highly underestimate Trump if you think he isn't aware of the cheating stunt the democrats are gonna try and isn't ready to combat that. If they delay announcing Trumps victory till 1 to 2 weeks after. He won't let the cheating dems get away with it anyways! SO... WHAT NOW? Lol I'll be back on the day they announce he's won.

From what I gather some States are allowing mail in ballots to be counted up to 6 days after today. So I'm not sure we're going to have immediate results of who won tonight. It's pathetic that we're a free country yet most of the citizens are scared to leave their houses and go stand in line at a poll when they can stand in line at a grocery store all over a virus with a 99.8% survival rate.

Smoker1 said:
I love how Trump is holding off on the 2nd Stimulus until after the Election.
If Trump Wins = He will send them out
If Trump Loses = To hell with the People

You probably didn't know this, but Trump changed his position on this matter and also his original position wasn't clearly reported by the leftist media as they twisted not only what Trump said, but what he meant. Trump has been willing to sign a new stimulus bill all of this time including today if the Democrats in Congress will present one that doesn't contain all sorts of shit unrelated to the Chinese Wuhan Corona Virus.

Acid_Snake said:
Reading through this thread one can come to these conclusions about politics in the US.

The left are extremely contradictory in their views and are unable to see their double standards and conflicting arguments. Examples include:
* They want a better trained police but they also want to defund the police. How the hell are you going to improve police training with less resources? if anything defunding the police will mean they will have to take corners and be even less trained and less qualified, nevermind the fact that you want to take away power from law enforcement in favor of law breakers and criminals just because they die in shootouts that they start themselves.
* They claim to be in favor of feminism but at the same time burned down cities to protest the death by overdose of a dangerous criminal that pointed a loaded gun to a pregnant lady. Either you defend women or you defend George Floyd, you can't do both unless you are a hypocritical sociopath that just wants to look good first and foremost.
* They want to remove all money from millionaries but they mostly focus on those that actually earned their money through investment and generating value rather than those who stagnate the economy. How are you going to explain billions of dollars disappearing because you stole them from Bezos and gave it to a bunch of ctryrackheads that burned the money on drugs in a week? What are you going to do about the thousands of Amazon workers that will be out of their job? The left is all about protecting the worker class but instead they destroy their source of income and labor.
* You either support LGBT+/feminism or you support Muslims, simple as that. You can't be allied to the pray and the predator at the same time. If you tolerate Muslims you are also tolerating the deadly hatred they have against women and homosexuals, you are literally aproving the killings of this group.

Now as for the right: they are completely unable to see anything wrong in their country and this is extremely dangerous to the development of any country. Here's a few examples:
* They want to give even more power and liberty to rich people that have proven time and time again to have corrupted this country beyond repair. The same rich people that now hold absolute and limitless power, the same people that make rules and laws for the population to follow but not for them who can freely break them to their liking. Most of these millionaires aren't even investors, they aren't creating new riches and jobs, they are leeches and need to be eliminated from this country if we want a bit of economic health. Being filthy rich shoulnd't mean you can have your own island to practice pedophilia, human sacrifices, torture, mutilation and all the crap rich people get away with.
* Having a strong military is important, in war time, but we aren't in war time, what do you need a strong military for? Let me remind you that the very first thing that a dictatorship will always look for is a strong military even in peaceful times so they can keep people under control (Nazi Germany, Stalin USSR, Cuba, Venezuela, Spanish Civil War and many many other examples of this). One day that very same military that you have been blindly giving money to will knock on your door and ask you to give up all your rights and freedom for a chance at not getting executed by a firing squad. Note that I'm not saying you shouldn't have a military and that it shouldn't be strong, what I'm saying is that it needs to be in check and limited proportionally to its power.

And then, regardless of who wins the election absolutely nothing at all changes in this country, and this will be specially true this election where both candidates are widely known for not doing anything at all (4 years of Trump precidency and 8 years of Biden viceprecidency are testimony to how much nothing at all has changed, specially how much voters have been ignored post election).
You guys are literally fighting for absolutely nothing at all, none of the proposed candidates mean any actual change, the system is rigged to keep doing what it has been doing for a while regardless of who's in power.
And the worst thing of all is that you guys are extremely separated and trained to hate each other and fight, keeping you weak and controlable.

You have some valid insights into what's going on over here. I agree with most of what you said and your observations about the Liberal hypocrisy is spot on, but I disagree with your stance on the military as our military isn't policing our citizens. Liberals are mostly too stupid to even realize how hypocritical they are being or they just like to lie and don't care and think that everyone else around them are stupid and they can manipulate they way out of anything. Liberals embrace lies. I also disagree somewhat on your observations about rich people. Rich people provide jobs for the rest of us and without them and their companies there would be no jobs to speak of. I do agree that some of them are basically untouchable and get away with crime, but at least arresting Epstien was a move in the right direction. Rich people should be held accountable for their actions just like any normal citizen is and that also goes for elected officials. You're also right about Biden as he's a normal life time politician that's all talk and no action. I just really hope he doesn't win because he's giving a voice to socialists that want to go backwards and time and ruin our way of life for something that has always failed. Liberals also support Muslims, but have no idea why they are supporting them or know much about the Muslim culture. Maybe the LGBTQ community should provide trips to Muslim countries so they citizens can throw them off of 4 story buildings simply being who they are.

Acid_Snake said:
The thing is George Floyd was not "with his hands up at the end", he was resisting arrest the whole time and using force himself til the very end.
More than once I have been confronted by the police for smoking weed and drinking alcohol in public, never have I been physically attacked, not even fined. Know why? Because at all times I treated the police with respect and understanding that they were doing their jobs and I tried my best to make it easier on them: I presented them with all the weed I had, I didn't lie to them, I didn't try to run away, I didn't try to fight with them, I just let them do their job and take punishment for my actions (which I didn't because I wasn't doing anything really bad or violent). I have also done martial arts before and let me tell you that if you are being restrained and you can't even breathe you won't have strength to resist. That guy had kept on going trying and going, he didn't show any remorse or intents to take responsibility and kept trying to fuck thing up to the very end.

The Liberals embrace sins and that includes crime. Liberals don't see anything wrong with doing dangerous drugs, beating women or resisting arrest. They support the lawless and embrace crime. They are not good people so why would it bother them if some women beating drug addicted criminal lives his life the way he does.

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God help us.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/1ClYCcqfd3BL/

Hanafuda · Nov 3, 2020

A poll watcher in Philly was just wrongfully prevented from entering the polling place#StopTheSteal pic.twitter.com/iJTFtRk0Id
— Will Chamberlain (@willchamberlain) November 3, 2020

D34DL1N3R · Nov 3, 2020

Shulk95 said:
monkeyman4412 completely made that up! XD my gosh kid, stop LYING. In less than 48 hours Donald Trump will win and you and Lacius can speak with therapists about yalls Trump derangement syndrome. I know the thought of Trump really being used by God, being victorious and taking back our country just burns you and Lacius up... scares you.. As we near the end of the age of grace, prophecy is unfolding in our faces quickly... it should scare you. It scares Satan himself. Just as you don't believe, neither does Satan. He believes he has gotten away with EVERYTHING, going all the way back. But come judgement day. He will face the same fate as all who reject our Lord and choose not to repent and accept the gift of salvation. As Christians live for the Lord, your choosing to live for the Devil. But just know everyone left will have to stand before God and admit Jesus is Lord before being cast into the lake of fire, including satan himself. Then they will fall forever, burning, crying, demons biting them for all eternity.... while us who accepted God and lived for him, we will live happily beyond imagination. God has made it SO easy for us. This is the age of grace. Things couldn't of been laid out easier for us. Something that we've all heard our whole lives is "Now is the time of salvation, you never know when God is coming back to get us." But we didn't have much things that we could see for first hand proof that we were approaching the rapture... but things have now changed, now all you have to do is pick up the bible and read. We are witnessing things directly from God's word! Trump is doing things that the bible list in the VERY end of the age of grace. The rapture is extremely close and it would be extremely unwise to ignore these signs... so... I suggest to you.. and whoever else is lost... repent now and accept our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ into your life. I am no preacher, I wasn't called for that role... But i still witness to you now... God is all our God, not just for us Christians. TRUMP 2020 GOD BLESS US.

Wow. Please seek immediate professional mental health help. You are a danger to yourself and others. You're also an extreme hypocrite and don't know SHIT about the bible. You just really don't. Same as the majority of other "Christians". You twist and turn everything possible to fit your own pathetic wet dreams. Bye now, kiddo.

LumInvader · Nov 3, 2020

Trump Can Still Win, But The Polls Would Have To Be Off By Way More Than In 2016
https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...ould-have-to-be-off-by-way-more-than-in-2016/

Numbers Look Good for Joe Biden: Analysis by Scott Rasmussen (Trump's favorite pollster)
http://politicaliq.com/2020/11/02/numbers-look-good-for-joe-biden-analysis-by-scott-rasmussen/

In the three midwestern states that shocked the world and put the president over the top in 2016, my final polls show Biden leading by seven in Michigan, six in Wisconsin, and six in Pennsylvania. Four years ago, the polls showed much closer races in Michigan and Pennsylvania.

In Florida and North Carolina, a pair of must-win states for Trump, my latest 2020 numbers show Biden up by four points and one point respectively. Bluntly, the president cannot be re-elected without winning both of those states.

Rail Fighter · Nov 3, 2020

Deleted User · Nov 3, 2020

Rail Fighter said:

awww yes... fox and friends... real credible
(cough, cough, they are the opinion piece of fox, cough cough cough, the bad part of fox cough cough)

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