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[POLL] 2020 U.S. Presidential Election

For whom will/would you vote?


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omgcat

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While even I have to admit that his post was a bit over-the-top (though I haven't read through Revelation, so who knows), multiple books in the Old Testament talk about the coming of Christ.

hey bud, multiple religions already have claim to the end of the world, Christ will have to wait his turn.
 

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God is why Trump will win on November 3rd.... It's the only reason he is gonna win! God is even using people who don't know him as voters for Trump as well. That's why even LGBTQ is voting for him. This is historical and biblical.. deal with it.. After he wins, I'd love to see yalls reactions! I'll be back November 3rd to say I told you so. Till then, take it easy because I know Trump derangement syndrome makes yall biden supporters and BLM nuts. This is gonna be so much fun laughing at yall! ;) I'll be back after we win to rub it in.
 

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God is why Trump will win on November 3rd.... It's the only reason he is gonna win! God is even using people who don't know him as voters for Trump as well. That's why even LGBTQ is voting for him. This is historical and biblical.. deal with it.. After he wins, I'd love to see yalls reactions! I'll be back November 3rd to say I told you so. Till then, take it easy because I know Trump derangement syndrome makes yall biden supporters and BLM nuts. This is gonna be so much fun laughing at yall! ;) I'll be back after we win to rub it in.

gonna have to wait till after the 3rd to make that claim, the earliest the vote can finish counting is like 1-2 weeks out.
 
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gonna have to wait till after the 3rd to make that claim, the earliest the vote can finish counting is like 1-2 weeks out.
LOL you actually think Trump is gonna let the Democratic/Socialist party cheat by saying that a bunch of mail in voters haven't been counted and toss in a bunch of fraudulent ballots?? The democrats have a history of cheating during elections...Seriously? COME ON Trump has shot down all the cheating these dems have tried, including the Russian collusion impeachment crap. You highly underestimate Trump if you think he isn't aware of the cheating stunt the democrats are gonna try and isn't ready to combat that. If they delay announcing Trumps victory till 1 to 2 weeks after. He won't let the cheating dems get away with it anyways! SO... WHAT NOW? Lol I'll be back on the day they announce he's won.
 

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LOL you actually think Trump is gonna let the Democratic/Socialist party cheat by saying that a bunch of mail in voters haven't been counted and toss in a bunch of fraudulent ballots?? The democrats have a history of cheating during elections...Seriously? COME ON Trump has shot down all the cheating these dems have tried, including the Russian collusion impeachment crap. You highly underestimate Trump if you think he isn't aware of the cheating stunt the democrats are gonna try and isn't ready to combat that. If they delay announcing Trumps victory till 1 to 2 weeks after. He won't let the cheating dems get away with it anyways! SO... WHAT NOW? Lol I'll be back on the day they announce he's won.

wrong, that is not how the fucking USA works. each state has set it's counting procedures. Election winners have NEVER been confirmed on election night. you better hope the republicans win the senate as well, cause a second impeachment/conviction becomes a lot more likely with a Dem controlled senate.
 
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wrong, that is not how the fucking USA works. each state has set it's counting procedures. Election winners have NEVER been confirmed on election night.
That in no way is a response to what i said... My gosh dude can you not read? or are you just that stupid? the only thing i can remotely link to what your "trying" to respond to is when i said "Lol I'll be back on the day they announce he's won." Which isn't even directly talking about election night, but as far as election night goes. Most major networks do declare a winner on election night! You freaking retard.
 

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That in no way is a response to what i said... My gosh dude can you not read? or are you just that stupid? the only thing i can remotely link to what your "trying" to respond to is when i said "Lol I'll be back on the day they announce he's won." Which isn't even directly talking about election night, but as far as election night goes. Most major networks do declare a winner on election night! You freaking retard.
Only if they statistically can. Or they are called FOX news. ;)

Issue with Covid epidemic is - you've got record number mail votes that quote 'have to reach the counting places either by election day, or a week out (depends on state legislation). So if its close - and there are still mail votes to be counted, its impossible to announce a winner on election night. (Mail votes take longer to count, because you have more verification steps, and opening envelopes steps, that take time and cant be skipped.)

Fox will probably announce a projected winner, but if its within margin of error for projections (a few percent), or closer than the number of expected vote percentages of mail votes to be gained to still be counted, you dont get a winner declared on election night.

In fact, with Gore it was the supreme court that decided the election by telling them to stop recounting at one point.

So for that scenario Trump wants his proud boys standing by in the streets, and wants to 'decide what to do in the moment' and wants his 6-3 majority in the supreme court, and... ;) edit: And the followup to some of those scenarios is branches of the army coming in and taking over in case he is declared the looser and doesnt leave the office. You have to add that because he has refused on every occasion to say if he would leave peacefully in case of a loss.

Also on mail in voting ballots, no statistically valid 'fraudulent' scheme has been found yet. Thats just made up. In fact Trump told his own voters to commit voting fraud (vote per mail, and the in person again on voting day to ('check if the system is working'), which it still should - but, that out of the mouth of a sitting president...) All voting fraud stories the ultras are dreaming up is one person deciding which vote to discard/invalidate, by the smell of the envelope, or something, so schemes that dont work. And are highly illegal. While suppressing the mail vote (make sure you slow down the postal system, make sure to install legislation, that vote have to reach the poling places on election day and not a day after (install legislation, that the date on the stamp (when it started to be processed) doesnt matter at all), then challenging the outcome, and hoping the supreme court will decide favorably on stopping recounts is all legal. And much more likely to be successful in manipulating the election.

That they work at all is ensured, by the republican campaigns urging their voters to vote in person, and so 'stacking' the backed of votes they can discard, more than proportionally with democratic votes.

Has to do with statistics. (Its easier to manipulate an election pulling the big leavers, than to count on defrauding measures, where there are checks in place where people look at each others hands at all time.)


edit: Dug up some students paper (California Institute of Tech) on why voting results can change after election day:
https://preprints.apsanet.org/engag...ay-the-blue-shift-in-california-elections.pdf
 
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Being English I'm not all that up on other candidates, no reason to be since I can't vote for any of them. But I know I WOULDN'T vote for Trump. As a father I'm trying to teach my daughter how to respect science and fact and intellect. I refuse to let her be raised in a world run by a man whose IQ is lower than his height in miles.

Sadly we're not doing much better in the UK, run as we are by Boris Johnson, not so much a man as a barely sentient dog turd in a chemo wig.
 

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I love how Trump is holding off on the 2nd Stimulus until after the Election.
If Trump Wins = He will send them out
If Trump Loses = To hell with the People
This right here lmao. Yeah it was trump that said "im ready to give american people money right now, nancy and her democrats couldnt make an agreement with trump and the republicans. You cant just blame one person thats not how it works in the USA you fuck nut. Oh wait thats what the democrats based their whole campain on (blame trump for everything).
 

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This right here lmao. Yeah it was trump that said "im ready to give american people money right now, nancy and her democrats couldnt make an agreement with trump and the republicans. You cant just blame one person thats not how it works in the USA you fuck nut. Oh wait thats what the democrats based their whole campain on (blame trump for everything).
but you can praise only one person when something "good" happens, right? hypocrite
 
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There was no one ramming the bus, or trying to run it off the road no matter what left wing media outlets and rando twitter accounts want to claim. A white suv and a black truck with trump flags were engaging in roadrage right behind a biden bus.
Here is the alternate view of the incident. The other one which barely catches it and is constantly off camera.

https://streamable.com/wef3n8

The white SUV is clearly the instigator, switches lanes to the right, black truck pulls in, then white suv tries to go back and cut the truck off when there is not enough room for the white suv, white suv is clearly in the middle of the lane divider and continues to make contact with the truck and kept trying to cut it off, the driver had to have heard that, the black truck is no better though for pushing the suv back though, it could have let him back in the lane.
uuuh... I have a bit of a issue with your video...
Is it just me or did the hood just cut?
pay attention the bottom of the video between 6-8 seconds
the hood suddenly bumps up within a single frame., full screening the video helps see it. the hood in frame jumps up.
I'm not stating it did happen. I'm just stating the evidence your using to my eye seems to be tampered to skip something. It could of been a time skip between that.
then again cars nearby seem fine, then again you can edit that.
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there is some visual jank I'm noticing. I don't have a particular stance. Since I've been taking my political break. if anyone noticed my more or so, less activity.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/armed-trump-fans-biden-bus/
according to snoopes
"Vehicles, mostly pickup trucks, flying flags in support of President Donald Trump were driving near a Biden-Harris campaign bus on a highway in Texas. A video showed that at least one truck moved in front of the bus, appearing to slow its speed. A Trump supporter also admitted on Facebook to "slamming" a white SUV that appeared to accompany the campaign bus. The Trump supporters appeared to have organized in an Alamo City Trump Train Facebook Group."
 
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Reading through this thread one can come to these conclusions about politics in the US.

The left are extremely contradictory in their views and are unable to see their double standards and conflicting arguments. Examples include:
* They want a better trained police but they also want to defund the police. How the hell are you going to improve police training with less resources? if anything defunding the police will mean they will have to take corners and be even less trained and less qualified, nevermind the fact that you want to take away power from law enforcement in favor of law breakers and criminals just because they die in shootouts that they start themselves.
* They claim to be in favor of feminism but at the same time burned down cities to protest the death by overdose of a dangerous criminal that pointed a loaded gun to a pregnant lady. Either you defend women or you defend George Floyd, you can't do both unless you are a hypocritical sociopath that just wants to look good first and foremost.
* They want to remove all money from millionaries but they mostly focus on those that actually earned their money through investment and generating value rather than those who stagnate the economy. How are you going to explain billions of dollars disappearing because you stole them from Bezos and gave it to a bunch of ctryrackheads that burned the money on drugs in a week? What are you going to do about the thousands of Amazon workers that will be out of their job? The left is all about protecting the worker class but instead they destroy their source of income and labor.
* You either support LGBT+/feminism or you support Muslims, simple as that. You can't be allied to the pray and the predator at the same time. If you tolerate Muslims you are also tolerating the deadly hatred they have against women and homosexuals, you are literally aproving the killings of this group.

Now as for the right: they are completely unable to see anything wrong in their country and this is extremely dangerous to the development of any country. Here's a few examples:
* They want to give even more power and liberty to rich people that have proven time and time again to have corrupted this country beyond repair. The same rich people that now hold absolute and limitless power, the same people that make rules and laws for the population to follow but not for them who can freely break them to their liking. Most of these millionaires aren't even investors, they aren't creating new riches and jobs, they are leeches and need to be eliminated from this country if we want a bit of economic health. Being filthy rich shoulnd't mean you can have your own island to practice pedophilia, human sacrifices, torture, mutilation and all the crap rich people get away with.
* Having a strong military is important, in war time, but we aren't in war time, what do you need a strong military for? Let me remind you that the very first thing that a dictatorship will always look for is a strong military even in peaceful times so they can keep people under control (Nazi Germany, Stalin USSR, Cuba, Venezuela, Spanish Civil War and many many other examples of this). One day that very same military that you have been blindly giving money to will knock on your door and ask you to give up all your rights and freedom for a chance at not getting executed by a firing squad. Note that I'm not saying you shouldn't have a military and that it shouldn't be strong, what I'm saying is that it needs to be in check and limited proportionally to its power.

And then, regardless of who wins the election absolutely nothing at all changes in this country, and this will be specially true this election where both candidates are widely known for not doing anything at all (4 years of Trump precidency and 8 years of Biden viceprecidency are testimony to how much nothing at all has changed, specially how much voters have been ignored post election).
You guys are literally fighting for absolutely nothing at all, none of the proposed candidates mean any actual change, the system is rigged to keep doing what it has been doing for a while regardless of who's in power.
And the worst thing of all is that you guys are extremely separated and trained to hate each other and fight, keeping you weak and controlable.
 

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but you can praise only one person when something "good" happens, right? hypocrite
I dont praise any of them. I believe the whole god damn federal government needs to be thrown out the window and just leave it to the state to govern themselves. The federal government is all a bunch of crooked, lying, fucked up bunch of shit that needs to change.
 
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I dont praise any of them. I believe the whole god damn federal government needs to be thrown out the window and just leave it to the state to govern themselves. The federal government is all a bunch of crooked, lying, fucked up bunch of shit that needs to change.
A great idea on paper, but imagine what California would be like without any stronger form of government keeping Cuomo in check.
 
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uuuh... I have a bit of a issue with your video...
Is it just me or did the hood just cut?
pay attention the bottom of the video between 6-8 seconds
the hood suddenly bumps up within a single frame., full screening the video helps see it. the hood in frame jumps up.
I'm not stating it did happen. I'm just stating the evidence your using to my eye seems to be tampered to skip something. It could of been a time skip between that.
then again cars nearby seem fine, then again you can edit that.
tl;dr
there is some visual jank I'm noticing. I don't have a particular stance. Since I've been taking my political break. if anyone noticed my more or so, less activity.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/armed-trump-fans-biden-bus/
according to snoopes
"Vehicles, mostly pickup trucks, flying flags in support of President Donald Trump were driving near a Biden-Harris campaign bus on a highway in Texas. A video showed that at least one truck moved in front of the bus, appearing to slow its speed. A Trump supporter also admitted on Facebook to "slamming" a white SUV that appeared to accompany the campaign bus. The Trump supporters appeared to have organized in an Alamo City Trump Train Facebook Group."


Do you have a driver's license????????????

Watch the video Joe posted again. The white Ford Escape changes lanes to the left, taking the second lane from the right. The pickup truck moves up, taking a position directly behind the Biden bus. The Ford Escape then tries to reclaim this position, by dangerously (and illegally) pushing back into the far right lane where the truck already is.

There are two vehicles in this screenshot that are not maintaining a single lane. 1) the Biden bus, and 2) the white Ford Escape. There is no additional lane to the right for the pickup truck to go. As Joe said, the pickup truck could have yielded the position by drifting back and letting the Ford Escape back into the lane, but the Ford Escape is the "aggressor" here in trying to force it.

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It's childish behavior all around, but the Ford Escape made it a dangerous situation, and calling it 'terrorism' is stupid.

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Being English I'm another lefty loser that can't remember the last time a public vote went my way. Lost two general elections and brexit, and if i was American i'd have lost in 2016 too, damn I wonder why the majority don't agree with my anti-semitism labour ways

Fixed it for you.
 

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