Hardware Best way to prepare for potential PS5 homebrew?

Silent_Gunner · Sep 30, 2020

Buy one and let it collect dust until exploits are released.

AkikoKumagara · Sep 30, 2020

Jayinem81 said:
Well Nintendo's systems get hacked so fast you blink and they're already hacked

Tell that to the poor old DSi. Took many years for anything useful to be done with it.

subcon959 · Oct 2, 2020

Best way to prepare for potential PS5 homebrew?

A warm fire and a glass of whiskey?

godreborn · Oct 2, 2020

it really depends on the system. the idea that hackers attempt to hack a system upon release is untrue. in fact, if you've ever watched the fail0verflow presentation on the ps3, you'll know that the interest in hacking the ps3 didn't come until linux was removed. according to their estimates, it didn't take years to hack the ps3, just five weeks.

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btw, marcan of fail0verflow further mentioned that the ps3 would've been fully hacked within days if not for the lawsuits;. it took 18 months for that to happen by the three musketeers (a different hacking group). they knew the ps3's vulnerabilities. the metldr and bootldr both suffered from non random key.

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http://wololo.net/2012/10/25/clarifying-the-confusion-on-the-ps3-development/

Thatguywhotriedwuphax · Oct 6, 2020

The PS5 may end up being hacked on at least 1.00, but unless SONY f*cks up and allows PSN/firmware spoofing, it should be quite secure.

dsdavis6 · Nov 7, 2020

Just to touch on the xbox one chat in the thread, I was under the impression the reason it was so hard to exploit was something to do with all apps running in a sandbox/VM style mode?

alexh · Nov 19, 2020

I turned my PS5 on when it arrived today and I put in Demons Souls and when it said... gotta install system update to play I was in two minds... for a few seconds.

subcon959 · Nov 19, 2020

alexh said:
I turned my PS5 on when it arrived today and I put in Demons Souls and when it said... gotta install system update to play I was in two minds... for a few seconds.

I assume you chose the sensible option instead of putting it back in the box.

Thatguywhotriedwuphax · Dec 19, 2020

The PS5 already has people looking for exploits - unlike the PS4 which was barren upon launch.

I could see an exploitable firmware Soon™

GuglioIsStupid · Jan 20, 2021

Jayinem81 said:
Well Nintendo's systems get hacked so fast you blink and they're already hacked, so when I bought a Switch it was already hacked. I bought a PS4 never hacked it, Xbox One obviously not hacked it. So you can't really make any plans for the future when you don't know the future. You can certainly decide "I won't buy console x until it's hacked" but you will have no idea when that is, if ever. Xbox One has emulators in dev mode but it's never been fully hacked. If the console has games I want I buy the console and buy the games I want, and if it gets hacked later great. If not oh well.

It took 4 years for a 3ds to get a CFW and it still wasn't a good full CFW just a way to pirate games. The thing with the switch is the SX mod chip that allowed CFW and mods. its still pretty har to mod nintendo's systems

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MostlyUnharmful said:
Maybe because this kind of attacks that exploit firmware bugs but don't compromise the "chain of trust" could be simply thwarted with a new firmware?

Having a standalone web browser means that possibly half the job — i.e. achieving "arbitrary code execution" — it's probably already done by other groups, so an interested party only need to achieve "privilege escalation".

Why Xbox One isn't hacked? Maybe no one was interested to hack it... ^__~

I see the message in your this that goes "why isn't the Xbox 1 hacked" its because there was a preinstalled DevKit that can do all the mods and you can't get in trouble for it so thats why no one made CFW for it

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dsdavis6 said:
Just to touch on the xbox one chat in the thread, I was under the impression the reason it was so hard to exploit was something to do with all apps running in a sandbox/VM style mode?

It has a pre-installed dev kit that only cost 25$ to active which is way better then paying more (if it bricks) and getting banned from microsoft

Bl4aze · Jan 21, 2021

Ian095 said:
I know this is a PS4 section but a PS5 one doesn't exist. Anyways, I want to know how you guys prepare a console for potential exploits and homebrew for later playing backups. Now I know the jist of things, nobody knows when an exploit will be found, it could be day one it could be years later. Could be after the console completes it's life cycle. With that being said there must be methods and plans people use to jump on board as soon as such things become possible though?

So what do you guys do to get prepared for Homebrew? Do you buy a day one console and hide it away to collect dust until the time comes? Do you buy a preowned console with the right firmware version? I'd just love some advice to prepare myself for a future potentially running unsigned code. I never use consoles online, so I don't see much use in it but then game discs force you to update to use them don't they, so not as if you can just use a offline console until it becomes possible without being made to update to more recent firmware, right?

Until its confirmed to even be possible dont do anything.

godreborn · Jan 21, 2021

the ps4 was the only system setup with hackerone, so no vita or ps3. however, I'm sure the ps5 will be added, if it hasn't been already.

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