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Do you support marijuana legalization?

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They aren't, they're taxing sales of the plant. You don't have to pay taxes just to grow your own.
true but you are strictly limited to how many you can grow and also you are are not allowed to sell it
but certain people are , certain people who have a monopoly on it , in most states
 

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true but you are strictly limited to how many you can grow and also you are are not allowed to sell it
but certain people are , certain people who have a monopoly on it , in most states
You can sell to dispensaries, but yeah, it's still illegal to sell to individuals. The "limit" is frankly negligible, at least here in Colorado. You can grow up to six plants at a time, meaning 12+ ounces of weed every few months.
 

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You can sell to dispensaries, but yeah, it's still illegal to sell to individuals. The "limit" is frankly negligible, at least here in Colorado. You can grow up to six plants at a time, meaning 12+ ounces of weed every 8 - 10 weeks.
6 plants, really in CO? er person or per house?
in MA it is 6 per person 12 per house max limit
i figured CO might be higher
but i think like MA , you are also restricted to indoor only right?

i don't think we can sell to dispensaries here , plus aren;t dispensaries held to really strict standards like don't then test it and put it under electron microscopes and reject it if they find a single molecule of mold or anything else?

i thought they could only buy from state licenced farmers and that getting a licence for farming is as hard if not harder than obtaining a dispensary licence

another problem is that prohibition already created problems that are not going to be resolved ,like synthetics, they are not going away ,
and even worse there is not way to test for them , you can test MJ and get a result that tells you it is MJ but you can not test for synthetics , there are too many and many are unknown and there are no tests for them ,
 

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6 plants, really in CO? er person or per house?
Per person.

but i think like MA , you are also restricted to indoor only right?
Technically yeah, but as long as it isn't visible from the streets, cops have become very lax about it.

i don't think we can sell to dispensaries here , plus aren;t dispensaries held to really strict standards like don't then test it and put it under electron microscopes and reject it if they find a single molecule of mold or anything else?
Indeed, nobody wants to smoke mites and/or mold. Gotta grow it right.

i thought they could only buy from state licenced farmers and that getting a licence for farming is as hard if not harder than obtaining a dispensary licence
Not here AFAIK, it just has to be tested to meet the standards.

another problem is that prohibition already created problems that are not going to be resolved ,like synthetics, they are not going away ,
and even worse there is not way to test for them , you can test MJ and get a result that tells you it is MJ but you can not test for synthetics , there are too many and many are unknown and there are no tests for them ,
If we would just legalize federally already, the availability of real weed would drown out any demand for synthetics.
 

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Per person.


Technically yeah, but as long as it isn't visible from the streets, cops have become very lax about it.


Indeed, nobody wants to smoke mites and/or mold. Gotta grow it right.


Not here AFAIK, it just has to be tested to meet the standards.


If we would just legalize federally already, the availability of real weed would drown out any demand for synthetics.
i don't think the synthetics are going away even if there is federal legalization
1st of all there are people who use them to avoid conventional drug testing since it does not show up
from either work or the courts or prisons
and then there are sick fuk masochists that actually enjoy it , trust me it is not going anywhere
very scary shit
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/27/632261920/d-c-has-had-more-than-300-suspected-k2-overdoses-in-2-weeks
 

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My 2 cents. Tobacco doesn't put you into an altered mental state as beer and pot do so yeah.
As far as I'm concerned I am against legalization.
even if it's medically proven for many conditions plus CBD oil (a compound in weed) unlike THC doesn't get you high BUT IT DOES help with Anxiety bi polar and panic attacks theres so many compounds and not all alter the mind in a negative way
 
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I think it should be legalised but can only be consumed in designated areas and private property. I don’t like walking past people and getting a whiff of their second hand cigarette smoke. I don’t want to start getting a whiff of second hand weed smoke.

Edit: The packaging should also be legally required to include health warnings and advice on information on how to quit, just like cigarettes.
 
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i don't think the synthetics are going away even if there is federal legalization
People are gonna kill themselves on worse stuff than synthetic marijuana if they really want to, best we can do is educate the public on the dangers of it. Which isn't really possible to do on a national scale as long as regular marijuana stays illegal.

Smoking synthetic marijuana to skirt piss tests is stupid too, given how easy it is to flush your system. All sorts of detox drinks out there, and vitamin B in the form of niacin will also clean you out pretty quick.

We cannot accept any "lesser evil". It is a drug.
It's a plant. And we've already accepted several "greater evils," including alcohol and prescription opioids. So it's a bit late for that.
 
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Some people in this thread are funny. "Cannabis is addictive with a high potential for abuse." lol. Have you ever seen or heard of anyone sucking dick for marijuana? People really need to start educating themselves on cannabis and stop going by propaganda or whatever news story fits their narrative. Maybe look into the endocannabinoid system and how big of a role it plays in our bodies? You can over-do anything in life. You can eat too much salt and die. You can drink too much water and die. Only way you're dying from cannabis is if a bail of it falls from a CIA drug plane and lands on your head. Anybody who thinks it should be illegal still should watch the documentary "Culture High" It's one of the best ones I've seen covering cannabis.
 

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Some people in this thread are funny. "Cannabis is addictive with a high potential for abuse." lol. Have you ever seen or heard of anyone sucking dick for marijuana? People really need to start educating themselves on cannabis and stop going by propaganda or whatever news story fits their narrative.
Exactly. Marijuana is addictive in they way WoW is addictive. Yes you may spend hours upon hours doing it, and still not want to stop the fun. Yes you will be sad if you can't play anymore, for a little while, but no you are not going to 'pleasure' strangers if you have to stop. :P
 

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It's tricky to determine what separates the recreational user from a full blown addict. There's allot of factors involved, including genetic pre-dispositions. Addiction itself is treated as a disease now. Forget legalization, I'd settle for the federal government to re-classify cannabis. Right now it's a schedule one narcotic. Cocaine is a schedule 2. According to the federal government cocaine is better for you than cannabis...
 

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On it for medical use. It should be legal for recreational use. It helps my depression, anxiety, ptsd. plus i focus more
 

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Some people in this thread are funny. "Cannabis is addictive with a high potential for abuse." lol. Have you ever seen or heard of anyone sucking dick for marijuana? People really need to start educating themselves on cannabis and stop going by propaganda or whatever news story fits their narrative. Maybe look into the endocannabinoid system and how big of a role it plays in our bodies? You can over-do anything in life. You can eat too much salt and die. You can drink too much water and die. Only way you're dying from cannabis is if a bail of it falls from a CIA drug plane and lands on your head. Anybody who thinks it should be illegal still should watch the documentary "Culture High" It's one of the best ones I've seen covering cannabis.

Marijuana is mentally addicting and physically addicting to a various extent. Take for example an anti-depressant, after a while your body gets used to being on the drug and adjusts accordingly to it; so when you remove the drug from your body you are going to experience some sort of withdrawal symptoms. Marijuana is not as physically addicting as opiods or alcohol where if you are abusing it and suddenly stop you might die, but it is an addicting substance (and more so than a MMORPG). Marijuana also has a high rate of potential abuse. I know all of this personally because I was addicted to smoking pot (along with like 100+ other of the kids at school) - I had to smoke a joint when I woke up, after breakfast, etc ... I'd consume about 1/2 oz of dank ass bud a day just usually it normally (not to mention when I wanted to get shit stoned out of my mind that amount would double or triple per day). Also, there are a lot of studies on the substance being addicting. Just go read about it.

https://www.google.com/search?q=is+marijuana+addictive

Sure, it doesn't make you sell off everything in your apartment and go live on the streets because you need you daily "fix", but it will become a priority and will become something "you need" after a while and if you take it out of your body after a long period of use you will experience withdrawal (nothing like heroin withdrawal, but you body will have to adjust to not having it anymore and this process isn't pleasant). You'll end up "needing" to smoke (just like needing to light up that cigarette or have that night time drink).

It's not some benign substance that people try to make it out as and I'm sure if some of these people were to experience a few episodes of THC related psychosis they might change their minds.

I also didn't realize that CBD is a schedule 5 drug. All I know is after the current administration changed the laws regarding hemp you can now purchase CBD in normal stores (CVS started selling it and you've got some fast food chains adding it to food - not to mention the normal "head/smoke shops" selling it). Whatever the circumstance is surrounding the legal status I'm glad the current administration did whatever they did as the drug is really helpful (it does give you the munchies though).
 
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WoW is addictive to a "certain extent". Playing cards can be addictive. Eating doughnuts can be addictive. By your logic we should outlaw everything. Essentially we should "nurf" the world.
Lol no, I am not. I was using a slightly exaggerated comparison of why it shouldn't be outlawed.
 

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I'm sure if some of these people were to experience a few episodes of THC related psychosis they might change their minds.
I'm sure they might, if that were at all a common occurrence. I've got a number of friends into psychedelics who I'm sure would laugh at the very idea of "THC-related psychosis." Personally I've had very few instances where THC even managed to give me visual hallucinations at all, and they were for a couple seconds at most. I think if you get most people high enough, they'll fall asleep well before they would ever experience psychosis.
 

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I was referring to Cheech (cots) who used to smoke an oz a day or whatever. I see his point about cannabis being psychologically addicting... kinda. But I believe the majority of people who use cannabis don't abuse it like that. I think what he's talking about is more of a mental health issue.
 
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