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What? The term SJW was mainly used in a neutral or positive way to describe persons that hold specific political views. It became negative when people started pointing and laughing at their ideas.
Query: Why do we have social justice warriors? What is their origin?
Is it possible that people in today's world are more easily offended? If so, why? If I may posit a theory.
People in the modern age are noticeably thinner skinned. They cannot endure constructive criticism as efficiently as previous generations. The mark of a wise man is that he accepts correction and learns from it. The mark of a fool is that he rejects correction and learns nothing.
It seems to me that a fair number of people are literally searching for a reason to be offended. If you are going on an archeological excavation in search of offense, you can be sure that you will find it. If that fails then you visit your lab and manufacturing facility and create offense out of thin air. :rolleyes:
 
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I think the easiest way to separate a SJW from someone who is left wing is too see if they are bigots and toxic. SJW dont even care what the truth is, as long as they feel "morally right". SJW and alt right folks are just toxic people, the side they pick depends on who is around them and/or what they think will get them the most likes on social media, or the most eyes on other media. The SJWs seem to hate Jews and use terms like "person of color" which was used to describe free slaves in the past, they also attack minorities who dare support right wing politicians viciously online. Everything they say is a bunch of bs, as a Cajun-Acadian (we were never considered to have "whiteness" and went to the same schools as the black kids) Ive done a lot of research on what we know as race... below is a good starting point that illustrates both alt-right and SJW are insane, and worse of all almost nobody has proper knowledge of what the concept of race even is.

I agree. Those who are true SJWs care not about "truth", they only care about their agenda, what gives them ego and power. I've followed a few of these cases, and these people are truly as delusional as the far right as you implied. Both sides only care about themselves or their agendas, and both enter the reigns of authoritarian or absolutist mentalities wherein there's no black and white, it's "Pick a color and destroy everything else that doesn't align with our color".

It's the result of 'freedom of speech' going too far, and it honestly begs the question of 'how much freedom is too much freedom'. I am not saying people shouldn't have freedoms, but the reality is, the more 'authentication' these absurd mentalities receive, the more traction they gain (because if they're permitted by law, then that must mean they're legitimate, right)? It's a harsh reminder that Freedom of Speech permits for some absurd reason to continued existence of hate groups, absurdities (groups) where logic is denied because they can spin a narrative where they're 'right' with no facts or basis, etc.

I think, and this is my opinion: the Bill of Rights in America (and any other relevant country) needs a thorough update, ancient laws need to be reconsidered with the present and future (I look at you, 2nd amendment and copyright laws, random ass ancient laws that were never purged from lawbooks), etc etc.
 

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I agree. Those who are true SJWs care not about "truth", they only care about their agenda, what gives them ego and power. I've followed a few of these cases, and these people are truly as delusional as the far right as you implied. Both sides only care about themselves or their agendas, and both enter the reigns of authoritarian or absolutist mentalities wherein there's no black and white, it's "Pick a color and destroy everything else that doesn't align with our color".

It's the result of 'freedom of speech' going too far, and it honestly begs the question of 'how much freedom is too much freedom'. I am not saying people shouldn't have freedoms, but the reality is, the more 'authentication' these absurd mentalities receive, the more traction they gain (because if they're permitted by law, then that must mean they're legitimate, right)? It's a harsh reminder that Freedom of Speech permits for some absurd reason to continued existence of hate groups, absurdities (groups) where logic is denied because they can spin a narrative where they're 'right' with no facts or basis, etc.

I think, and this is my opinion: the Bill of Rights in America (and any other relevant country) needs a thorough update, ancient laws need to be reconsidered with the present and future (I look at you, 2nd amendment and copyright laws, random ass ancient laws that were never purged from lawbooks), etc etc.

Can you clarify what you mean by „freedom of speech going too far“? Are you making the argument that authoritarians should be censored?

I‘m not too worried tbh, the market works pretty well in this case. Left leaning and specifically radical left media is in a freefall with massive layoffs. People aren’t interested in their ideas and are telling them to learn to code. Just keep pointing and laughing.
 

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Can you clarify what you mean by „freedom of speech going too far“? Are you making the argument that authoritarians should be censored?

I‘m not too worried tbh, the market works pretty well in this case. Left leaning and specifically radical left media is in a freefall with massive layoffs. People aren’t interested in their ideas and are telling them to learn to code. Just keep pointing and laughing.
"The market works pretty well in this case".

If the SJW movements and far right leaning movements prove anything, it's that these groups can gain traction. With enough gaslighting and a large enough group, it wouldn't be hard enough to cause a revolt. And most people just wouldn't care. Trump could push to get his 2 extended years and succeed, and most of the country WOULDN'T CARE because, surprise: they are too lazy to get involved, partially out of self preservation instincts.

I got constant anxiety due to a mental condition, paranoia and considering these possibilities *is* my life. I can't just say "It won't happen", the possibility is it *can*, and that we'd all let it happen because people are under this delusional preconception that people wouldn't let it happen and point and laugh them off.
 
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Only siths deal in absolutes.

But seriously? These people you are talking about are a minority. An extremely vocal minority, but a minority. They get way more attention than they deserve.
And yes, i'm talking about far right just as much as far left. They are not only cancer to each other but everyone around them.

In the meantime, nobody to talk about things that really matter. Jobs, education, health care...
 

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Not necessarily the right, even some of the left use it. To me at least, SJW is almost exclusively the extreme left - the sort who attempt to force views their way or... well.. see the Vic Mignogna situation... IE: these "SJWs" are doxing ANYONE who stands up for him (If you're not up to date: they literally started sending cellphones to individuals linked to the Vic Mignogna side to dox them via tracking the phone's location).
Are you kidding me? They are tracking people that support Vic?

I haven’t been up to date with the situation. Last I checked Vic was suing for 1 million, and one of the reasons Funimation fired Vic was over a stupid Jelly Bean story. He ate a Jelly Bean with Monica Rials name on it and said he ate Monica at a con, and they fired him over it. Man that poor guy having to go through non-sense from people that wanna destroy him.
 
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Are you kidding me? They are tracking people that support Vic?

I haven’t been up to date with the situation. Last I checked Vic was suing for 1 million, and one of the reasons Funimation fired Vic was over a stupid Jelly Bean story. He ate a Jelly Bean with Monica Rials name on it and said he ate Monica at a con, and they fired him over it. Man that poor guy having to go through non-sense from people that wanna destroy him.

Yep. Seems Marzgurl I think it was (or someone affiliated with her) made a "YellowFlash2.com" website that was asking anyone interested to dox Yellowflash (a youtuber following and detailing everything said on the Mignogna incident). They sent a cellphone to his P.O. box linked to their account so they could ping its location (thankfully, they were stupid as F and forgot to charge the thing so it never REACHED his home, but they LIKE THE BLEEDING IDIOTS THEY ARE told him they doxed him), and it's extremely likely he isn't the last. We also known AnimeNewsNetwork filed a false DMCA to try to censure HeroHei (yet another youtuber covering the KickVic movement) because their CEO has openly supporter KickVic and Marzgurl, etc. Basically it's just getting worse and worse even WITH the lawsuit with anyone who isn't covered in the lawsuit lashing out.
 

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"The market works pretty well in this case".

If the SJW movements and far right leaning movements prove anything, it's that these groups can gain traction. With enough gaslighting and a large enough group, it wouldn't be hard enough to cause a revolt. And most people just wouldn't care. Trump could push to get his 2 extended years and succeed, and most of the country WOULDN'T CARE because, surprise: they are too lazy to get involved, partially out of self preservation instincts.
Sometimes it's easy for us armchair quarterbacks to think we know exactly what needs to be done when in reality we are poorly qualified to enter the arena. Something that is good for us to consider though is what exactly would be the consequences of limiting or even eliminating free speech?
If someone were to restrict free speech, the next question would be who gets to regulate it? Who gets to decide what is acceptable and what is inappropriate? You would then find yourself on a very slippery slope. Odds are whoever would have the reigns and decide what we can't say would go too far and ban words that are not objectionable at all.
Or what if they take it further and completely eliminate free speech? Then we no longer live in a free republic anymore. No one would be allowed to stand up and speak against tyranny.
 

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Yep. Seems Marzgurl I think it was (or someone affiliated with her) made a "YellowFlash2.com" website that was asking anyone interested to dox Yellowflash (a youtuber following and detailing everything said on the Mignogna incident). They sent a cellphone to his P.O. box linked to their account so they could ping its location (thankfully, they were stupid as F and forgot to charge the thing so it never REACHED his home, but they LIKE THE BLEEDING IDIOTS THEY ARE told him they doxed him), and it's extremely likely he isn't the last. We also known AnimeNewsNetwork filed a false DMCA to try to censure HeroHei (yet another youtuber covering the KickVic movement) because their CEO has openly supporter KickVic and Marzgurl, etc. Basically it's just getting worse and worse even WITH the lawsuit with anyone who isn't covered in the lawsuit lashing out.
I swear they are sooo stupid. Everything they do they are making the situation worse for themselves. It makes them out be conspirators which will be used against them in court.

The 1 million is the first round of lawsuits, and it looks like there’s more to come.


Everytime I listen to a Nick Riketa video I get extremely pissed, because of the crap they pull off. Hearing Nick and Vic’s lawyer go on an angry yelling rant about the stuff they do really gets me mad.
 

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Extreme left or right wing views are made by idiots.

However, the media brainwashing towards a left bias is appalling. It is made to make you feel bad about caring about your country.

I mean, you have the Clinton News Network, BBC (who celebrate Karl Marx for crying out loud)...

There are bigger people at play here.

That vile Soros with his views and buying influence... The sooner he departs this earth, the better frankly.

Just don`t let yourselves be brainwashed. Don`t follow the lead because your friends do... I think its better to be without these "friends" and be true to yourself.

Wheres @notimp tonight? He hasn`t regaled us with his wall-of-text on such matters yet...
 
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Extreme left or right wing views are made by idiots.

However, the media brainwashing towards a left bias is appalling. It is made to make you feel bad about caring about your country.

I mean, you have the Clinton News Network, BBC (who celebrate Karl Marx for crying out loud)...

There are bigger people at play here.

That vile Soros with his views and buying influence... The sooner he departs this earth, the better frankly.

Just don`t let yourselves be brainwashed. Don`t follow the lead because your friends do... I think its better to be without these "friends" and be true to yourself.

Wheres @notimp tonight? He hasn`t regaled us with his wall-of-text on such matters yet...
I agree Soros needs to be removed from play. No one really knows just what evil he orchestrates behind the scenes
 

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I'm confused, are you saying that meanings and the usage of language changes over time and dictionaries don't keep up?
No...? The definition of NPC hasn't changed from what it was originally. It was obviously never meant to be a term directed at a person or people, though, and that's what makes it offensive.

Again, it also fails to have any political context. Anybody can accuse anybody of being an 'NPC.' Right-wingers are certainly guilty of parroting their news outlets of choice just as much as leftists do, if not more so.
 
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Divide and conquer, baby. It's all bullshit. The partisan issues and labels are mostly distractions to prevent unity and progress. I think we all agree on the same basic principles.
 
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Divide and conquer, baby. It's all bullshit. The partisan issues and labels are mostly distractions to prevent unity and progress. I think we all agree on the same basic principals.
Unfortunately we don't. Leftists believe in supporting the working class, right-wingers believe in supporting 'job creators' and relying on trickle-down. That's just economically of course, the two sides are even more divided when it comes to social issues. Right-wingers haven't even been able to get past the fact that abortion is legal since Roe v Wade was decided nearly half a century ago. Everybody else has long ago moved on to other issues.
 
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Divide and conquer, baby. It's all bullshit. The partisan issues and labels are mostly distractions to prevent unity and progress. I think we all agree on the same basic principles.
Exactly right. Divide and conquer is definitely the strategy being used against us. A house divided against itself cannot stand. There is also another element many times overlooked. A strong country is built on a strong foundation. The family was once our strong foundation and years ago someone figured out if they could just do away with that, they could weaken us immeasurably.
 

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Unfortunately we don't. Leftists believe in supporting the working class, right-wingers believe in supporting 'job creators' and relying on trickle-down. That's just economically of course, the two sides are even more divided when it comes to social issues. Right-wingers haven't even been able to get past the fact that abortion is legal since Roe v Wade was decided nearly half a century ago. Everybody else has long ago moved on to other issues.
Yea, keep aborting. Then we got none of you guys left.
 
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Exactly right. Divide and conquer is definitely the strategy being used against us.
This makes no sense. You believe this country should have only one political party? That's how we end up a Banana Republic.

In fact, we need far more political parties added as options in the US. Divisions don't have to be a bad thing, we can take the best ideas from multiple viewpoints and implement them. The only reason things are so heated right now is that the leaders of the right-wing are being extremely combative. Trump has never once tried to be a president to all of us, he only panders to his base.

Yea, keep aborting. Then we got none of you guys left.
Your mistake is believing that Republicans aren't often complete hypocrites about the subject, and don't get abortions themselves. They are and they do.
 
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