Hardware Want to get a New 2DS LL at launch? Maybe you should reconsider...

Gimzie · May 16, 2017

kikongokiller said:
God I want that SDcard slot so badly, unscrewing the back of my N3DS is unbearable.

Just keep the back cover unscrewed, it doesn't fall off or anything. I've been using it like that forever.

Deleted User · May 16, 2017

Gimzie said:
Just keep the back cover unscrewed, it doesn't fall off or anything. I've been using it like that forever.

I've tried that before but it makes the back panel feel kinda loose when I'm using it, might give it another go though.

TheRedfox · May 16, 2017

I wonder how often people take out the sdcard; for small adjustments i just quickly FTP and installing new games is simply done with an alternative eshop clone ;P

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TheRedfox said:
i just quickly FTP

FTP and MicroSD Management are really slow for me, and Freeshop doesn't have certain games.

YamiHoshi.nl · May 16, 2017

Tomato Hentai said:
Maybe it has to do with the fact that it's 2D only? With the 3DSes there's a part in the initial setup where you have to turn the 3D slider all the way up otherwise you can't continue, but since the 2DSes are only 2D, they remove that part from the setup, and maybe that not being in the setup affects the version number somehow?
I'm just grasping at straws lol

Well, the regular 2DS still shares the same CTR (non-SNAKE) firmware as the 3DS and 3DS LL, so I don't think that's the case.

resetes12 · May 16, 2017

This is very interesting.

It's probably a new firmware which is set to release when someone releases 11.4 exploits. That's my guess.

PabloMK7 · May 16, 2017

I think the priority here is to check if the bootroms have changed (so sighax is still present), but since @YamiHoshi.nl cannot install CFW because the sysversion, it is impossible right now.

zoogie · May 16, 2017

I had a feeling this would be the case (new2ds specific firmware). There had to be a difference in the firmware to handle the non-3d hardware aspects on new 3ds. Also has to be a config function to check the model and probably other things. No hint at any of these new2ds model specific things in 11.4 at all.

I'm guessing a new update will be out prior to June 15th to "unify" the various models' firmware. Or maybe new2ds will get it's own new branch of firmware versions but I doubt it. The interesting thing is it will likely have firm version > 11.4 but have older titles because of manufacturing lead time. Again, a greater firm version than the new2ds initial firmware will likely be released to merge the 3ds family to one firm version.

RustInPeace · May 16, 2017

It's a good thing I read through the thread because I was going to jump with "How the fuck did you get it so early?"

resetes12 · May 16, 2017

zoogie said:
I had a feeling this would be the case (new2ds specific firmware). There had to be a difference in the firmware to handle the non-3d hardware aspects on new 3ds. Also has to be a config function to check the model and probably other things. No hint at any of these new2ds model specific things in 11.4 at all.

I'm guessing a new update will be out prior to June 15th to "unify" the various models' firmware. Or maybe new2ds will get it's own new branch of firmware versions but I doubt it. The interesting thing is it will likely have firm version > 11.4 but have older titles because of manufacturing lead time. Again, a greater firm version than the new2ds initial firmware will likely be released to merge the 3ds family to one firm version.

That makes sense. 11.4 doesn't (afaik) have any New2DSXL image as shown on your photos when using the config (for example). That's why a new firmware is probably coming. If that's the case, maybe 11.4 exploits aren't fixed on that version. Hmmm... Interesting...

But if that's the case, there's no way to install CFW on it right now because it's based on 11.4 and there's no way to install CFW on 11.4 as of right now. Am I wrong? Or is a dev 2DS/3DS different?

zoogie · May 16, 2017

resetes12 said:
That makes sense. 11.4 doesn't (afaik) have any New2DSXL image as shown on your photos when using the config (for example). That's why a new firmware is probably coming. If that's the case, maybe 11.4 exploits aren't fixed on that version. Hmmm... Interesting...

But if that's the case, there's no way to install CFW on it right now because it's based on 11.4 and there's no way to install CFW on 11.4 as of right now. Am I wrong? Or is a dev 2DS/3DS different?

My guess is that since a dev unit (and some retail units) are in the wild right now, and given hardware lead time is about 2.5 months, this new2ds only firmware will be based on 11.3 or 11.2 titles. 11.4 is only about a month old and that isn't near long enough for hardware to be made and shipped to end users.

gnmmarechal · May 16, 2017

that is interesting.

DjoeN · May 16, 2017

Title is a bit misleading

Consider it if you want to use CFW maybe later on.
Anyway, i'll buy it anyway, hackable or not, i'll use it to play my legit games on then

But the only reason i would wait: Bundles, Who know what great bundle will come out with the 2DS XL

YamiHoshi.nl · May 16, 2017

DjoeN said:
Title is a bit misleading

I think not, seeing the userbase here at GBATemp.
The title would have been different, if I were to post this on a forum for more 'regular' gamers (although the entire thread would also have been different).

jamezfat said:
Does there look to be any way to open the console?,(screws under bumpers/flaps, click tabs?)
Or does it look as if it would be concealed?

I'm very sorry about that, I only saw this post, after re-reading the whole thread again.
Yes, there are 4 screws, one on each corner.
However, the back cover seems rather interesting, from the way it looks like, taking off the back cover will automatically take off all 4 shoulder buttons, the back cameras, and the cartridge/Micro SD slot cover as well.

zoogie · May 16, 2017

YamiHoshi.nl said:
I think not, seeing the userbase here at GBATemp.
The title would have been different, if I were to post this on a forum for more 'regular' gamers (although the entire thread would also have been different).

I'm very sorry about that, I only saw this post, after re-reading the whole thread again.
Yes, there are 4 screws, one on each corner.
However, the back cover seems rather interesting, from the way it looks like, taking off the back cover will automatically take off all 4 shoulder buttons, the back cameras, and the cartridge/Micro SD slot cover as well.

Yeah, in the dev portal docs, it mentions the battery is non-user replaceable so no surprise there.

Could you check one thing for me? Is the sound app there by any chance?

YamiHoshi.nl · May 16, 2017

Yes, Nintendo 3DS Sound is there, sandwiched between Nintendo 3DS Camera, and Mii Studio.

dimmidice · May 16, 2017

It'd be a shame if its unhackable as it does look so gorgeous. I really love the design of it.

YamiHoshi.nl · May 16, 2017

I agree, the fact it's so much lighter compared to the New 3DS LL really invites me to play longer sessions on it (if at all possible, because not only I need to convert games to a CIA format that runs on Dev Units, but I also need to find the time for it).
And I really love the design, it's not that boring "modern" design like the 3DS LL, New 3DS, and New 3DS LL are.

PabloMK7 · May 16, 2017

Are the screens TN or IPS?

jamezfat · May 16, 2017

kikongokiller said:
I've tried that before but it makes the back panel feel kinda loose when I'm using it, might give it another go though.

I don't do that because I'm scared that if I put too much pressure on the back it will shove the screws in their holes and strip it...

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YamiHoshi.nl said:
Well, the regular 2DS still shares the same CTR (non-SNAKE) firmware as the 3DS and 3DS LL, so I don't think that's the case.

Well the "New" systems have their own firm.bins so maybe all this does is allow you to skip the 3d slider.

(Edit) also, does anyone know where the startup notifications are kept?, is it the firm.bin or somewhere preloaded on the sd card when you buy a new system? (The tutorial notifications, such as, "how to use sleep mode" or "the home button ")

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