Hacking sigpatched sysNAND; and why you should use redNAND instead.

[Truth] · Nov 13, 2016

I´m getting tired of people thinking they know what they talk about...

subcon959 · Nov 13, 2016

Notice how the forum isn't flooded with new threads about people bricking?

The only person I've seen that bricked was not a noob.

Rednand is utterly pointless right now for most people.

cheuble · Nov 13, 2016

iAqua said:
I'm really tired of people saying "Oh, we need to wait for salts stable tools, because this isn't stable and WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!! OMG!!! WAIT FOR SALTS, it's not gonna be any more stable then this. We already have a perfectly stable redNAND.

We don't even have a way to restore a NAND backup to sysNAND

iAqua · Nov 13, 2016

C0mm4nd_ said:
Yeah but redNAND offers an useless protection layer. (for medium user)
And we need 64GB SD.. (16 too but for 8GB Wii )
You're using 33 (or similar) gb on SDCard for nothing (an useless layer)

Okay, because money is a huge issue for people with tv's and console's... Let's be real, pretty much everyone has a big enough sd for 8GB and a lot of people have a big enough sd for 32GB.

Kohmei · Nov 13, 2016

cheuble said:
A9LH is great because it offers you brick protection: it is a thing that loads BEFORE the system, so it doesn't matter if it is bricked. In that situation, you have no chances of recover.

It offers you brick protection at a high risk of brick during installation. The tradeoff is negligible. The fact remains that if you're competent enough not to brick while installing A9LH, you probably didn't need brick protection anyway.

If all you do is install games and haxchi for booting HBL and iosuhax in sysnand, your brick risk is virtually non-existent, much lower than an A9LH installation I would estimate. I think the only person I've heard of who has bricked is someone who altered their sysnand system.xml which everyone said not to do.

xtheman · Nov 13, 2016

Honsetly people shouldn't use rednand nor sig patch sysnand. Brazilian is enough for most. Some just want extra things. Don't judge them. It is their hardware and they choose to hack it how they want.
This is starting to remind me of A9LH and Menuhax.

DaBlackDeath · Nov 13, 2016

iAqua said:
I'm really tired of people saying "Oh, we need to wait for salts stable tools, because this isn't stable and WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!! OMG!!! WAIT FOR SALTS, it's not gonna be any more stable then this. We already have a perfectly stable redNAND.

My redNAND isn't stable. Did you tried to format your redNAND ? Try it ... please. Andthen answer me, is redNAND stable like the redNAND/emuNAND on 3DS ?
Sorry, but even with redNAND I used this for testings only and wait for Salt's real solution.

C0mm4nd_ · Nov 13, 2016

iAqua said:
Okay, because money is a huge issue for people with tv's and console's... Let's be real, pretty much everyone has a big enough sd for 8GB and a lot of people have a big enough sd for 32GB.

Maybe they bought the console in 2013?
Maybe they have an SD (8-16 GB) and they don't want to buy another for just one thing?

KevinX8 · Nov 13, 2016

Kohmei said:
It offers you brick protection at a high risk of brick during installation. The tradeoff is negligible. The fact remains that if you're competent enough not to brick while installing A9LH, you probably didn't need brick protection anyway.

If all you do is install games and haxchi for booting HBL and iosuhax in sysnand, your brick risk is virtually non-existent, much lower than an A9LH installation I would estimate. I think the only person I've heard of who has bricked is someone who altered their sysnand system.xml which everyone said not to do.

it thosent have high risk brick on 3ds if you followed everything correctly and also Safe arm9 installer has many safety checks before it those anything so if something simliar is created for wii u there will be no extreme danger of bricking

cheuble · Nov 13, 2016

Kohmei said:
It offers you brick protection at a high risk of brick during installation. The tradeoff is negligible. The fact remains that if you're competent enough not to brick while installing A9LH, you probably didn't need brick protection anyway.

If all you do is install games and haxchi for booting HBL and iosuhax in sysnand, your brick risk is virtually non-existent, much lower than an A9LH installation I would estimate. I think the only person I've heard of who has bricked is someone who altered their sysnand system.xml which everyone said not to do.

High risk? I installed 3 times A9LH with no problems whatsoever. Bricks are coming from people who don't follow the guide properly.

timogus · Nov 13, 2016

KevinX8 said:
Actually installing custom titles those work just fine on sysNAND and it those not brick it on reboot, the only problem is NUS packer isnt working on it yet.

NUSPacker titles will only work with sig patches. They created files will very very very likely NEVER work on plain sysnand. So if you want to have homebrew in own channels, rednand is your best option!

Kohmei · Nov 13, 2016

cheuble said:
High risk? I installed 3 times A9LH with no problems whatsoever. Bricks are coming from people who don't follow the guide properly.

Right. And how many times has A9LH saved you from a brick?

BIFFTAZ · Nov 13, 2016

iAqua said:
I'm really tired of people saying "Oh, we need to wait for salts stable tools, because this isn't stable and WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!! OMG!!! WAIT FOR SALTS, it's not gonna be any more stable then this. We already have a perfectly stable redNAND.

This part of the post needs to be stickied in this section...

KevinX8 · Nov 13, 2016

Also I have a feeling your salty because you installed coldboothax when you shouldn't have and now its impossible to go back and now you want to BS about how much better it is

C0mm4nd_ · Nov 13, 2016

timogus said:
NUSPacker titles will only work with sig patches. They created files will very very very likely NEVER work on plain sysnand. So if you want to have homebrew in own channels, rednand is your best option!

I have homebrew on my sign patched sysnand.

cheuble · Nov 13, 2016

inb4 people defending sigpatched SysNAND like they defend rxTools.

iAqua · Nov 13, 2016

KevinX8 said:
Also I have a feeling your salty because you installed coldboothax when you shouldn't have and now its impossible to go back and now you want to BS about how much better it is

Me?! I never installed coldboothax, are you actually retarded?

xtheman · Nov 13, 2016

Kohmei said:
Right. And how many times has A9LH saved you from a brick?

I have bricked my 3ds 5 times.
Each time doing something that need extra protection.
The wii u doesn't have anything that needs extra protection.

Conn0r · Nov 13, 2016

@iAqua You are just jealous of our innovative and brave minds. *bricks*

cheuble · Nov 13, 2016

Kohmei said:
Right. And how many times has A9LH saved you from a brick?

Many times! I tried to do some modifications to the home menu.

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